Didnt know that, if thats the case, that ends that....thanks... Hey if they strung together more than 2 runs on 2 solo home runs on 3 hits before the 9th, this wouldnt have been an issue.....but hey I am sure their bats will come alive soon....hits wise....
Did Granderson bunt on his own last night or did Girardi give him the sign? Either way it's a bad baseball move. Let him swing the bat, especially when you're at home against a shakey White Sox bullpen.
Not sure but I didnt mind it, Jeter got on with a topper to 3rd, then down by 1, against Thorton who Grandy was like 2-13 or something like that...to move him over with Tex, A-Rod, and Robbie coming up I liked the chances.....and if that kid doesnt make 2 really nice catches, it worked you know? That was the same kid who stole second 2 games ago and got driven in for the winning run as well....Lillibridge I think.....Konerko likes hitting in New York...
I just saw this BDH, and this is the liberal/conservative, glass half-full/half-empty-like arguement between me and you.....you always believe hitters will hit, and I believe good pitching always beats good hitting.... and I am right....... as evident in the Yankees playoff runs that ended up with them winning and losing.....
I'd rather have a man on 1st with 0 outs and my 2, 3, 4 hitters coming up than a man on 2nd with 1 out. I just don't like giving away outs, especially with the heart of the order coming up and a guy at the plate that can put the ball over the wall.
Yeah, that was too harsh, my apologies..... See, then you go and say something silly like that. You are far from correct, as your evidence is as selective as your judgement. If good pitching always beats good hitting, then Pedro wouldnt have blown the lead in 2003; C. Lee would have won the WS for TEX last year, etc, etc. Good hitters vs Good Pitchers produce good baseball. 3 out of 10 is good hitting, and 7 out of 10 isnt good pitching. So the days Arms hold the bats to 8 out of 10 has more to do with luck and fortune than simply stuff, as BABIP shows more consistently than spouting a MYTH as old as time. We agree to disagree each time you bring this up. I contend bats that go into funks beat themselves more then the arm they face. Chasing pitches out of the zone is bad hitting from good hitters, and has little to do with good pitching for something that would otherwise be a ball. Good hitters go into a funk making arms look like good ones more often than not. We will agree to disagree as always on this topic. I see both sides of the argument; while Grandyman could go yard (it would only piss off FinYank- hehehe) his job to some extent was to allow during his at bat Jeter to get to 2nd. He chose to do that via the bunt, whether on his own or by Girardi. So that at bat was a success in that sense. Would I rather have Grandy, Tex, Arod swing away once Jeter reached base...I could live with that. I dont believe one is necessarily worse then the other....in that, the advancement into "scoring position" is the logical baseball play - and the speed of Grandy makes the bunt (Sac or Drag) a play that has to be fielded and thrown correctly to record the out - will take that over a swing away at bat that ends in a K any day of the week. Now, I totally agree that with these Bronx Bombers, when they step into the batters box they are already in scoring position, so would accept any and all swinging away if they fell confident against the arm, etc. The fact that the RF made two sensational catches makes the hindsight work in both cases.
It cant be myth, there are too many outcomes that contridict that....ie Yankees last Championship was due to what, come on you can say it?? after years of playoff failure in that they thought they could outslug the competition.....or what about SF last year, Texas was hitting everything on the screws last year (and this year too), all of sudden they stop?? no no my friend....just 2 quick off the top of the head....I am not saying good pitching is like Minny, they rot...I am talking Philly (although I cant see them winning it cuz their bullpen is AWFUL) or the Sox..... yeah agree to disagree I am with ya..
It is a myth. We have debated this, each time you simply judge the outcome of Winning a WS or Losing a WS and claim we either had the Great arms or failed against Great arms....it goes deeper than that....especially if you continue to fail to account for the hitting lineups having a certain regular season approach - that due to pressure - goes out the window in post season. Its not about Swing and Miss on pitches in the zone...thats often consistent and a negligible change from regular season to post season historically. However, look at the differences to the hitters approach at the plate in # of Pitches Seen per Plate Appearance; as well as Swings out of the Zone in the post season compared to regular season. What you see and claim to be Pitchers beating Hitters is called pressure especially at the plate. Good Hitters get into funks based on Playoff pressure of the finality of the event. It happens. But I agree its not a one sides black and white argument. There are no doubt better and deeper rotations in the post season, the best of the best so to speak weeded out from the long regular season to separate the wanna-be's from the gonna-be's. I get the philosophy of Good pitching....but to not accept and acknowledge the fact that come playoffs the years that hitters get into their funk of CHANGING what their approach was during the longer regular season removes the MYTH from the argument. Bad Hitters make avg Pitchers look Good. And Good Hitters rip Good Pitchers in post season. So CC is an ACE and Great Pitcher, but Tex rakes him...hmmmm.....same with Andy, hmmmm?? Thought good pitching beats good hitting? Again if you subscribe to the traditional mindset and logic of 3 out of 10 equaling good hitting.....I submit that the 7 failures are more often attributed to the Hitter themselves then the opposing arm. I would submit that 2 of those 7 may be the arm, but 5 are more often then not the defense from a BABIP standpoint, or the funk/timing etc of the hitter during that stretch. Good Hitters hit; Good hitters in funks hit less, Good hitters vs. Good Pitchers is usually a wash. The difference is at the disposal of the Hitter therefore, not the pitcher - and frankly historically always has been the case. There is a reason why only two No Hitters have been tossed in the Post Season, and only one Perfect Game. Hitters hit more often than not! And think of this....over a given playoff series a teams staff that sweeps doesnt suddenly have 4 ACES....hitters that go into a funk make that sweep happen and that #3 or #4 Arm suddenly looks like the ACE they clearly are not. I know this much, why the argument isnt one sided that good pitching beats good hitting...in the opposing dugout, they must have had Good Hitters Hitting Good Pitching and Beating them soundly. Thats a fact and the only fact of the debate.
A buddy of mine was saying it sounds like an anyerism like David Cone had...hmm.....in any event I feel for the kid...u know he wants to be out there... http://twitter.com/#!/BloggingBombers/status/63332721442820096
The only thing that matters is making the playoffs, and winning a championship no? In order to do that you need Pitching, Defense, and Timely Hitting in that order, especially now in the post roid era.....hitters often gag? or it is in the playoffs you are facing the cream of the league's pitching more often than not...? It is hard, extremely hard to hit a baseball, name something that you fail at 70% of the time and it is still considered an excellent job?? so naturally when the stakes are raised much higher in the playoffs, and then the quality is raised to a higher degree with the indiviuals pitching, it often times than not leads to "hitters not always being able to hit"......
But that's my point, you are not facing a STAFF of aces. But bats in slumps get out of their game plan, thus making Entire Staffs become ACES in your side of the discussion and thats illogical. The #2, #3, #4 should still be Hit; but when it doesnt happen you claim them to be Great Arms out pitching Great Bats. I disagree, and say its Great Bats in a funk, turning them into Aces and the analysis when comparing REG SEASON to POST SEASON supports this. Thats what happens each playoff season. Its why HOT BATS make ACES cough up Runs. Otherwise ACES would never lose in the playoffs. or Verducci effect?? either way, it does stink for him!
Colon stepped up big tonight...8 innings is one thing...99 pitches is another, hitting 96mph in the 8th.....Yahtzee! now for bad news update: Tests have revealed that Phil Hughes might have a circulatory problem and will be sent to St. Louis to see specialist Dr. William Thompson. More specifically, it could be thoracic outlert syndrome. Thompson will perform more tests to possibly confirm the diagnosis. At this point it's not clear how this will affect his status going forward, but we're likely to have more information once he visits the doctor. As of now, that visit has not been scheduled.
There have been studies that discredit Verducci's theory, so that is too a myth except in his own mind which is why he writes an article on it each year. And I believe TOS that Hughes has been diagnosed with isn't because of overuse or poor use.
good effort last night.....Swish has always like the 2-hole.... they scored 12 runs, and Posada doesnt get a hit lol....
What in the world are you babbling about now....I am a Yankee fan you boob....hence the "yank" in finyank.....
Nice AB by Swish last night in the ninth...hopefully it gets him to relax at the plate, you can see he is amped up too much.... and Granderson is locked in...consistantly great AB's whether outs or not....would love to see a win tonight with CC.....
Obviously him not having TOS is good news but the bad news is they still have no clue what's wrong with him. It's definitely strange.
You they handled him wrong Fink?....I bet they told him to not throw one bit after the season was over, as evident with him having 200+IP, and you just cant do that....
Yeah, but the amount of testing that goes into finding out whether a person has TOS would also rule out almost all nerve issues, as well as muscular deficiency issues. They also would be able to rule out the anuerism issue as well. I think this is most likely, a rotator cuff issue that will eventually get sorted out with a proper mechanic and exercise regime. I also think phil is a bit of a P(us)sy.
It appears the Yanks have no idea how to handle young pitchers. Joba is just now getting his velocity back. All this rules crap about limiting innings. These kids have been pitching more than 120 innings a yr since they were in jr high. Then to go to minor leagues and have their innings cut in an effort to get them to build up stregnth is ridiculous. The stregnth was there, they are just breaking them down to try and build them up again, which is a crappy philosophy in my book.
No I don't think the Yankees handled him wrong, like they did with Joba (which is a complete joke). I just think pitchers get hurt sometimes, unfortunately it's part of the game. I can't remember any time last year where they really abused him. I just think this kind of injury is strange because they have no clue what's wrong with him. He doesn't have any pain (according to him) but his arm feels dead and he has no feeling in it. A rotator cuff injury would be bad news. As a pitcher you never want to injury your shoulder. At least with an elbow injury your success rate at coming back is higher.
Eric Chavez out with a Jones Fracture in his foot. I knew he would get injured at some point. Injuries just seem to follow this guy, but jeez so soon? This is at least a 6week in a boot injury and then he has to rehab, so this might be a 10 - 12 week stint.
Dare I say.....a Derek Jeter offensive barrage!!! ...now we just need to see life from Posada and higher consistency from Swisher ......Grandy-Man is crushing Lefties and Righties with equal authority! ..........this patch work rotation sure seems to be more than capable to get us to the Trade Deadline; anythings possible at that point.
Solid effort by the Captain, good to see the ball is jumping off his bat better this past week.... Kevin Long is a wizard, not even so much with Jeter but Granderson...what a job he has done so far, he might be the MVP up til this point so far (not that that matters).. Cervilli went slam to center lol.....a shame about Chavez, he was doing well at the plate for A-Rod who since tweeking that obilque on that 40 degree day, hasnt been right at all....
good story about Steinbrenner aiding the FBI in a probe involving terrorist, and in turn got a pardon from Reagan.....his life was great..... http://www.projo.com/redsox/content/projo-20110510-george-steinbrenner.30835975a.html
Good thing both the Red Sox and Yankees spent money for set up guys who have stunk/been hurt this year while Tampa Bay signed and traded for a bunch of rejects and have the best bullpen ERA in baseball. To quote the legend John Sterling "Baseball is a funny game, Susan".
Just to recap the reality of small sample sizes when judging early season stats and who's done and who's not done (aka Ortiz-syndrome)...who should be boo-d, not boo-d! Yankees GM Brian Cashman said this afternoon on ESPN 1050's "Ruocco and Lundberg" show that Jeter is an above-average MLB shortstop. "He's not the same player he used to be, and how many people are when they start to get older? But I think he's a championship-caliber contributor and an above-average shortstop, and that's more than enough,” Cashman said. Mike Mazzeo has quotes and audio at ESPNNewYork.com. After a strong weekend at the plate, Jeter ranks in the top 15 in OBP, wOBA and WAR among all qualified shortstops.
not trying to argue anything, pointing out the obvious....Fanatics Boo based on anything that doesn't meet their expectations;.....Fans take the sample size into proper context of total career and current value and measure him accordingly to other 29 options before reaching a singular visceral reaction. Like a curse word for those that lack a vocabulary!
wow top 15 in one position....silly me he is/was well worth the signing of 4 years at 15+ a year..........Hanley Rameriez is below Jeter in every catergory....you taking him over Rameriez? Jeter will get his numbers because he will have probrably the most AB's around by years end, I never thought he was going to hit 220 for the year, my point is and still will be they are paying 15 million for him....
Jeter got boo'd once that I can remember, the year he went 1-June......or something silly like that.....
BTW, I want Melky back, I miss him.....he and Swisher are free agents at the end of the year I believe....make it happen if you cant get Choo....or still get him , and make Gardner the 4th OF.....the kid still has the knack to get the bat on the ball when it matters....
