There is a rumor going around Edmund Gates 40 time. He ran a 4.37 but he said he ran something around a 4.21. Is this true? Can anyone find out if that is right??
Actually it was Gates in an interview with Omar, from the Sun Sentinel. He did qualify it by saying it was on a track surface. WOW
exactly the same thing I was thinking. Ted Ginn Jr was the fastest man on the field in almost every game. He was lightning fast, made Darelle Revis look slow chasing him. Yet the boy was just a Track Star wearing an NFL uniform. He wasn't a football player. I hope this Gates kid is a FOOTBALL player with blazing speed.
Oh my god can this kid catch the ball....go watch some of his videos.....butter soft hands....kids......buddahhhh
Gates has good hands, catches the ball well, he is just very raw in his route running. He is a project (who isn't in the fourth round??) but no one will catch him on a go route.
Oh, I was legitimately asking. I am wondering why talents fall so low. Other teams not doing enough homework or are there some red flags?
-age will be a 25 yr old rook when the season opens -learning curve, no HS football, played at a low level of college football so things like professional route running is something he will have to be taught -Wr's are a dime a dozen.
Just watched an 8 minute vid on YouTube and he is fast. Also in every highlight he was given at least 5 yards off the line by the defender. He won't get this in the NFL unless he shows he can get of the defender.
He got those five yard cushions so they could try to keep up with him. He dictated the coverage. Fast receivers tend to get cushions so DB's can keep up with them.
Speaking of some impressive numbers. Sanzenbacher's quickness times, production, and even somewhat decent 4.55 40 should have gotten him drafted. There's almost no doubt in my mind this guy could make Bess an asset that could be traded in a year or even less for a second round pick. Worst comes to worst you keep Bess if Sanzenbacher doesn't develop. How the hell was this guy not drafted?
Exactly. Ginn was a light weight yet he often received huge cushions. The problem with trying to jam that type of player is that even if you only miss him once you are in serious trouble. Also Ginn showed that he didn't really have much wiggle to him so even when we get him the ball quickly the corner usually got there quickly and brought him down for minimal gain.
Find me a 3rd/4th corner that can press a fast WR at the line. Most teams are lucky if they have 1 true press corner these days with the rules on CB's.
Ginn also had the "crab claws" meaning the ball had to be precisely placed below shoulder level and softly thrown for him to come down with it, Gates has softer hands then TG.
Guys go back and watch him go up for the ball in the back of the endzone. He knows how to position his body and knows how to go get the ball...because he played basketball in highschooll, not football. That has almost created the perfect weapon as a reciever. Look at his upper body, and you can see this is not a kid that is gonna get handled at the line of scrimmage. Only one thing keeps this kid from being a pro bowler, the six inches between his ears, and I havent got the foggiest idea as to what kind of team player, what his work ethic is like, will he be a diva...those are in my mind the only questions I have. He works hard..learns technique...and we will have with Marshall and Bess and Gates...one sick, sick wr core
When it comes to WR I think the draft pick fall (if its not a tangible, measurable asset) then it could be route running. Has to have good moves off the line to create seperation and then crisp routes to build an opening. Crisp routes (or noncrisp) can make a fast player look slower or slower running players look faster.....Not the Rice was a poor route runner at all (didnt run fast in 40) but he fell to the 3rd. He's pretty good.
Don't forget though that while he needs to work on his routes, he is pretty good AFTER he makes the catch.
