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The Witcher 2

Discussion in 'Gaming Forum' started by Clipse, May 17, 2011.

  1. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Anyone else get this game? May be the best RPG I've played in a while. Actually, **** that. One of the best GAMES I've played in a long time. AMAZING game. GOTY imo.
     
  2. Stitches

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    Not played it, but you've certainly got me interested.
     
  3. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    230 people graded the game so far on gamespot. Average Score: 9.5. So, seems like I'm not the only one who thinks this is an amazing game.
     
  4. Zeke0123

    Zeke0123 message board ******* Club Member

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    Im all over it...played the hell out of 1.
     
  5. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Yea, The Witcher was pretty damn good. The combat was lackluster though, and it's great to see the devs actually listen to the players, because the combat in The Witcher 2 is excellent. The story, the characters, the graphics, the environment/ambience. Everything. This game has it all. This is what an action RPG is supposed to be. Take notes Bioware, because DA2 was a failed attempt at moving towards a more action oriented game imo.

    I'm barely into the game and I'm already eagerly awaiting CD Projekt Red's next release.
     
  6. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Oh, and the DLC for this game will be FREE. Bioware, Bethesda, Obsidian, Black Isle, take notice. A new player in the RPG genre is emerging...

    And for those graphics junkies, arguable the best graphics I've seen in any game to date.

    No DRM either.
     
  7. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I wasn't trying to sell your opinion short (there was no sarcasm intended in my post).

    Desides actually helped me get together my first gaming PC (parts are ordered and forthcoming). So I'm all excited about getting a PC game that will really make me feel good about my PC build & purchase.
     
  8. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    What build you getting if you don't mind me asking? This game really is a ***** to run at max settings with the Ubersampler on. I'm running it fine with a Radeon 5870/Core I5 750 build except for the occasional FPS dips in bigger battles. I hear there's a problem atm with new nvidia drivers, though I use ATI so I wouldn't know. Also, it doesn't support crossfire as of this moment.

    As for selling my opinion short, I figured. Just thought I'd post that little nugget to make you even more interested :lol: FWIW, it's now 439 grades with a 9.6 average

    I'm pimping the hell out of this game to everyone I know. The devs deserve that much. Seriously, this game is as good as anything the big 2 Bioware and Bethesda has put out, including Neverwinter Nights and Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall. And that's saying a hell of a lot. Ok, maybe not Neverwinter Nights...
     
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  10. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    That's a pretty good rig actually. In fact, I've been strongly considering upgrading to that same GPU with a Core I7 2600K. But, I haven't had troubles running any game up this point at max settings so don't think I'll be upgrading yet since I don't need to.
     
  11. daphins

    daphins A-Style

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    Not crazy happy with the GPU. The processor is outstanding, and the GPU holds up, but I'm running dual 24" monitors, and the 5800 series has a flicker for some reason. Would love to fix that....


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  12. daphins

    daphins A-Style

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    Is this one free roam? Or set
    Psyche like the previous one? Probably not a make or break for me, just curious.


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  13. Phinz420

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    Say it with me....Baldurs Gate.....

    It is an absolute sham that Bioware turned DA2 into a complete action RPG, considering when they marketed the original DAO as the spiritual successor to Baldurs Gate. I own all of the big Bioware RPGs, and while NWN was decent for online play, the actual singleplayer story was a joke compared to BG 1 & 2. The combat was also hindered by an atrocious camera and very little good changes to the gameplay coming from BG.

    As for the Witcher 2, they certainly need every one of you who purchase the game to "pimp it out". Since they brilliantly decided to spend about twelve dollars on marketing the game to the public. There is a pretty rabid fanbase behind The Witcher, Im sure there will be plenty of good reviews coming from them.

    Im sure its a good action RPG, I just couldnt avoid chiming in when R&R was out here holding up NWN as the pinnacle of Bioware's RPG work.

    The devs for Witcher should take notice....until they have a background that can compare to series' such as Baldurs Gate, KOTOR, and Mass Effect they should stop with the smack talk and let their own work do the "speaking". Dragon Age 2 is the weakest RPG they have ever made, and besting DA2 is nothing to be proud of. The sad reality is that as time goes on, the type of CRPGs I have good memories of are disappearing.
     
  14. Clipse

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    With how cheap 5850's are these days, you're crazy not to be running with 2 of them imo.
     
  15. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    That's your opinion. Baldur's Gate was an amazing game, I preferred NWN and it's amazing modding community. In fact, Baldur's Gate 2 > Baldur's Gate, and that I would admit is probably a better game than NWN. However, NWN was the 1st RPG I ever played on the PC. It got me into the genre. And for that, I will hold it up as the pinnacle of Bioware's work for me anyways.

    Back to the topic at hand. The Witcher 2 is definitely as good as Mass Effect 2, no doubt about that. As for comparing it to Baldur's Gate series, and NWN, why bother. They're completely different. If you don't like action RPG's, it is what it is. If you want to rip on the devs for what you perceive to be smack talk, it is what it is. Every developer starts somewhere, and it's obvious that CD Projekt Red are well on their way to being among the elite, and that's just fine with me. We need more elite quality action RPG's like TW2.
     
  16. Phinz420

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    I was kind of judging their Series as a whole in that post. To be clear, I think BG2 is much better than the first, however its one of those things that is kind of difficult to compare directly considering they simply built off the first title and added a ton of great content.

    I assumed that you played NWN first, but outside of the online community(which I gave credence to in my first post) there is absolutely no comparison between the games. Many people such as myself were incredibly disappointed in NWN's 1P story, and had it not been for the modding/pvp community - that game would have been a total failure.

    While I enjoyed the grandiose story of Mass Effect 2, from a RPG perspective I didnt enjoy it. They turned the game into an Action game with very limited RPG structure. The game was fun sure, but what happened to the old school RPG community that Bioware built its name from? What games do we have now that Mass Effect & Dragon Age have been morphed into action? CJProjekt is trying to compete with Bioware in their action games, and specifically so the recent action game that seemed to piss off anyone who grew up playing CRPGs. This took about 2 seconds to find a similar opinion on Bioware's forums. anyone who followed developer commentary or their rabid fanbase before the launch of Witcher 2 are well aware of the smack talk, its not a matter of perception.

    People running around talking about how great Witcher 2 is compared to DA2....and then using that as a cudgel against Bioware as a whole are oblivious to the point that its the equivalent to making a new soda and then comparing the flavor to Coke Zero...then bashing the coke product as a whole.
     
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    Now this is some arrogance....Suggesting that Bioware was influenced by The Witcher for their romance and story choices? Thats a laugh....considering that you had romance options and ways to drastically change the story based on dialogue going back into the 1990s.

    Seriously though, they use "Romance" as their attempted "we influenced bioware" shenanigans? What a complete crock, as that is basically something tacked onto the games and not really anything that brings a whole lot of entertainment to the genre. Its also very amusing that this dev would, in the same interview - suggest that they liked how Bioware handled KOTOR's dialogue options, then went on to claim that Bioware borrowed from the Witcher 1 in that same system? WTH is this guy smoking?
     
  18. Clipse

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    I haven't seen but a few idiots doing so. The fact is, The Witcher 2 is one of the best RPG's to be released the last decade. I don't see any reason at all to compare it to any of Bioware's games. They're not the same genre, though it's obvious that DA2 tried to be an action RPG and failed at it. I believe they've earned enough credibility to get away with 1 bad game. Honestly, the whole Bioware fanboys vs. Witcher fanboys thing is childish, and dumb. Bioware is my favorite developer. Doesn't mean I can't hope for other developers to succeed. And with TW2 being as amazing a game as it is, you bet your *** I'm hoping they keep up the great work. The Witcher 2 has set the standard for action RPG's from here on out.

    Another thing, it's not just TW and TW2 that people should be praising CDPR for, but the game engine as well, is simply magnificent, and the best graphics we've seen in any RPG to date.
     
  19. Stitches

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    Amazon still had this for $45 + a $10 credit, so I went ahead and ordered it. Go my fingers crossed that it'll be good for me.
     
  20. PeaTearGriffin

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    Is it a big deal that I didn't play the first one?
     
  21. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    The (ongoing) IGN review made it seem like it wasn't a huge deal, just that you'd obviously be more invested with the main character and understand some of the things better (faster?) that are going on.
     
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    Thanks! I figured I'd get this one and if I really like it I'll buy the first.
     
  23. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I'm getting it without playing the 1st too, so I may end up doing the same as you.
     
  24. Clipse

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    You don't need to play the 1st one, but it's a lot better if you do.
     
  25. daphins

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    The 1st is like $5 on GOG.com and I think Steam...directors cuts. Well worth it.


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  26. daphins

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    This game is officially sick. I got the first one a few months ago (maybe 4?) for $5.00 on steam. Heard it was good, so I picked it up...liked it, but it got to be a bit of a grind. This game isn't that...yet....it MAY get there, who knows, but right now it's all fun.

    Graphics: I have them on high (Ultra is too boss for my rig) and it looks GREAT. I mean REALLY REALLY good. Big views, solid character models, and the textures are REALLY good. Hats off to them, this engine is sweet!

    Controls: I need to reboot the other one to see the changes, but overall they're pretty intuitive. I thought I used to be able to click on objects to rummage through barrles and stuff, is that not the case? Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but in this one it seem that you kind of pan the camera and it picks stuff up. It does a good job of doing this, but point and click might be easier.

    Same goes with fighting. I thought i used to be able to target a particular opponent...a popup window told me how to target but I was in the midst of a battle and it flew by. Didn't get a chance to see it unfortunately. Again the auto aim is very intuitive..almost to the point where I don't need to pick it manually, but I'd like to be able to in some cases. Just to target a specific opponent.

    Fighting: MUCH improved. The old game got to be kind of a bore as you ground out timing based battles. These fights are tricky..you have to plan ahead. You can't use potions in battle anymore, so you need to be on the ready at all times. You can't go running in against armored opponents anymore..they'll kick the **** out of you. As I said so far it's tough, which is a welcome change from games today.


    Really liking it so far. Solid addition to my library.
     
  27. Zeke0123

    Zeke0123 message board ******* Club Member

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    F5 is your friend.
     
  28. daphins

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    Played a bit more...and I really really like this game. I keep hearing people ***** about the fighting, but I absolutely love it (short of the quick time events...hate those, always have since Time Crisis 2). This game is tough, but not unreasonable. I can take 3 drowners on fairly easily, but when it becomes 5 you have to be very careful. I like that. Too many games (assassins creed 2 being a prime example) let you take on hoards of opponents, one guy at a time. What I mean by that is, I could be fighting 1 guy, or 8 guys, and I approached it essentially the same way. Target a guy, attack parry, and get into a kill animation. Rinse repeat. The more guys there were meant that I had to move quicker in between attacks, but that was it. You really only fought one guy.

    This game....not so. Not by a long shot. Fighting one of a monster can be a piece of cake, but soon you can be swarmed...and it's swarmed in a left 4 dead kind of way. If you attack one guy you'll get mauled by 3 others. Turn your back on the weakest one, and you'll get rewarded with a critical strike to the back.

    The one thing this does do is make me feel stupid. I'm not a witcher in real life, so when I encounter a monster I don't really have any idea on how to kill it. This does create a game where its not uncommon to die in you first engagement with a certain creature type. Or a certain PRE-determined battle. Often times you need to get the **** kicked out of you a time or two to know what you're supposed to do. But that makes it a blast to me....it was a real treat to kill some slug queen thing on my 3rd try. First try when she came out she stomped me. 2nd time I was prepared, set a maze of traps for her to run through as I jumped in and out and attacked her...but I couldn't get it done. So the 3rd time I picked a sign to use in tandem with my two trap valleys and walla...she went down.

    I really think the only other game that made me break each battle down so deeply was final fantasy tactics. So many times on that game I'd be switching around soldiers, placing them in different spots, casting different spells, and crossing my fingers that I'd come out on top. This game is like that. It's not cheap, but it makes you earn it. It's a game that feels real. The characters are deep and real, the world is dirty and real, they don't gloss over anything...war, drugs, torture, sex, it's all there. The game doesn't let you dip your toe in the pool to see if it's safe...you start with a ****ty sword, a full compliment of signs, and are expected to take on groups of baddies.

    Very Very well done CD Projekt.


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  29. pennphinfan

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    i'm guessing that since my setup struggled a tad with the first Witcher that the 2nd will not run well on this computer. Sigh.. this may have to wait til i upgrade
     
  30. Clipse

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    You may still be able to run this game on medium settings, and to be honest, the game still looks damn good on medium.
     
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    I have to say I was thinking the "adult" part of this game ie Cursing sexual themes etc was going to seem forced but it really doesn't..very well done and seems to flow naturally though the game...I hope future "adult" titles take this as an example of how to do it right.
     
  32. Stitches

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    Patch incoming:
    http://en.thewitcher.com/community/entry/30/

     
  33. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Did you use auto detect for your settings? If not, how do you know if you can or can't run ultra settings?
     
  34. Clipse

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    Run it in ultra, and see how many FPS you're getting. Generally, you're aiming for at least 30 FPS at all times though some games can run fine as low as 20 FPS or so. If you're not getting enough FPS, causing your game to run choppy, turn down the settings until you're getting a good enough FPS.
     
  35. daphins

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    Ran it on Ultra. It CAN run, but it gets kind of jumpy sometimes...a bit jumpy for my taste. I'll try it after the patch. I was logging my system, and my graphics card was running full on to play it on high settings.
     
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    Hmmmm..haven't installed the patch (haven't seen it on steam yet), but I hit an irritating glitch. I was fighting some harpies, and Geralt quit responding..but the harpies quit attacking. I could run, had a bit of control over my direction (but not full control) and ended up getting stuck in a bush. Got stuck there, tried to reload, but my previous saves from tonight weren't there (I had used them earlier, so I know they were there). I'll have to start over..not a huge deal, lost maybe 45 minutes, but it was the most boring 45 minutes i've experienced in this game so far, lol. Oh well, maybe i can make some better choices and make it more exciting this time. This was right after a place where there's a known glitch, so maybe that has something to do with it?
     
  37. Paul 13

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    it's not good enough for my PS3 :couch:
     
  38. Clipse

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    Badass game. Finished one of the story arcs tonight. This will deffinetly get played 2-3 times. The stories are THAT much different. My bro is doing the other branch, and I'm still blown away by the decisions I got to make. I can point to 3 that would give a totally different outcome. Great great game. Top 3 in my favorite of all time I think. It's all personal preference, and there's a ton of good games, but I havent been this gripped to a story since I was playing FF7 at 14 years old. It was deep, fun, never felt like a grind. Inventive missions...very impressed. Don't regret the money at all.

    Well done CD project.


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  40. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    This game is on sale right now on Steam for anyone interested. It's $33.49 for the digital premium edition.
     

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