Bulger to Dolphins? Carson Palmer is going nowhere

Palmer was never on the menu.

As for Bulger… no thanks. That would be basically rigging the competition for Henne.

 

Ive said a million times, you already have your pocket passer on the roster...Now if they wanna make a gesture for competition and a gesture of respect for Henne, they will bring in Mark Bulger.

 

This is why this regime has failed this owner & fanbase. Its Henne or bust, and that is a set up for an epic fail for this franchise.

 

Grossman? Ewww.

 

And after watching Henne for 2 years, I think its presuming a lot more that he will improve. See that cuts both ways Padre

 

Yeah Grossman ? Oy Vey.......he is just awful. Chicago got there with him, despite him.

 

Padre, Grossman is a horrible choice. At least Young and Orton are easily debated. Grossman adds no value to this roster. If Henne gets hurt and Grossman is our starter, the season's officially over.

 

Those 3 would be my preferred choices too. Orton, Grossman, Young, in order. Bulger would be the most reasonable 4th option, but that's not saying much. After that we would be basically be down to Gradkowski and there would be no competition. Bulger is 34 and it's been since 2006 that he's had a good year. Whether it's due to surrounding talent, eroding skills, injury, or a mixture, is up for debate I suppose.

 

Grossman looked better last season in Washington, than he did prior to that. 7 TDs, 4 ints, 81 QB rating in 3 starts. Maybe he is turning the corner.
Let's face it, other than Orton there isn't a lot of good to choose from.

 

Well, Brown's statement only reiterates the validity of what my source said back in January with regard to Palmer. As Desides aptly put it, Palmer was never on the menu, nor is he going to be.

 

He was losing his good receivers the last yrs in StL too wasn't he? 2007 and 08 basically were the end for Bruce and Holt as a dynamic WR duo.

 

Reports had Bulger all but retired 2 weeks ago. Really I'll pass and just see what plays out..

 

Bulger is the guy I've thought we should bring in. He's the kind of player who knows the game and can fill in, while at the same time not being such a big name acquisition that he ends up dividing the team or undermining Henne's effort. IMO that's the kind of guy we need in 2011.

If Palmer were to come in here, the team could be looking for his guidance even IF Henne happened to beat him out (since Chad has a head start and all). IMO that would be the Pennington affect all over again.

 

Honestly I like us going into the season with Henne as the guy. If he fails, then clean house and let the next regime pick our QB of the future. If he succeeds, then the gamble will have paid off for Sparano and company.

 

I'd bring Bulger in. He's one of the most gifted QBs I've ever seen and while he's not what he once was, I'd still bring him in and let the best man win the job, whether it be Henne, Bulger or some other player.

 

This. I completely agree.

 

No to Buger.

I wouldn't take much stock in what Brown is saying about Palmer. Talk like this get reversed all the time, and if he blatantly says they're looking to unload Palmer, the price goes down. I'm not saying that it's true or not,

 

I think he'd fit the new offense pretty well too, to be honest. He has a quick release, good decision making and ability to read and react to defenses.

 

If Mark Bulger is 100% healthy (BIG if) we need to sign him. He could put up big numbers here in our system.

 

Yes to Vince Young but no to Bulger???? Yipes!

 

All the trade and free agent options are terrible, it’s just a matter of degree.

Our best shot at correctly addressing the quarterback position was in the draft. Spireland made job security priority number one and decided to put pieces around Henne rather than replace Henne. At this point, it really doesn’t matter who they bring in, Henne will have an innate advantage due to more advanced knowledge of Daboll’s playbook. Whatever competition is held in whatever bizarre semblance of training camp we get this year is a sham.

At this point I’d just like to see the Dolphins make a move for a backup, maybe Josh Johnson from the Bucs. That’s a guy who can survive the impending regime change.

 

This is where we'll have to disagree! There is no way I want then to sign a Qb that cannot beat out Henne, or have a chance to beat him out in competition. Henne needs to be pushed to get better and if he takes some kind of equal competition as a slight on him, then he should not be in the NFL. The main reason, to me, is he has not earned anything yet..

 

That's what I'm afraid of too. Of course it worked for the Dolphins when they signed another grizzled veteran who appeared on the downward slide, by the name of Earl Morrall. The savior of the undefeated season. 38 yrs old and posted a 91 QB rating, which would be like posting over 100 QB rating today.

 

Oh boy, another has been, old qb that can be added to miamis long list of failed attempts at finding a decent qb.

 

I said from the beginning that I never really liked this draft class at quarterback, but I figured there was probably a guy or two we liked early (Locker, Ponder) but not enough to sell the farm. When it came to free agents, I always considered Carson Palmer to be the only clear upgrade and figured he was going to cost too much (or not be available at all). After that, I thought Vince Young represented the best shot at bringing in competition for Henne with real upside. But there's all sorts of unknowns with Young. I can't sit the guy down in a room and have a conversation with him to feel him out. It's impossible to make any determinations as to character and motivation from my computer. And so I always threw Marc Bulger's name out as my next choice. I was living with a Rams fan when St. Louis made the transition to Bulger, and the guy can play. I still think Henne would likely beat him out in any competition, but I think Henne would come out a better quarterback for it. And I think Bulger would be a very solid backup.

I understand that people would be disappointed with that scenario, but I came to terms with its possibility long ago. It's just not a great year for solving problems at the quarterback position. That's why a guy like Christian Ponder gets drafted #12 overall with a legit chance to start on opening day. That's why the Benglas seem halfway serious about placing the franchise in the hands of Andy Dalton. And it's why someone will inevitably overpay for Kevin Kolb.

 

If taking zero snaps equates to a perfect QB Rating, then I agree he'd put up big numbers in our system.

 

I'd love to land Palmer, I think he would cement the position for a good 5 years but he is probably going to be forced to retire. On a side note, who would want to play for Cincy now?

Bulger as a free agent makes a lot of sense. He knows the position, has played at a high level and would accept a backup role if he could not beat out Henne. If he legitimately outplays Henne he should start and Henne could learn from him for a year or two and compete for the job at some point. Both players would more than likely miss a start here and there due to injury and both could get time anyway at some point. Bulger is older and isn't what he was, to me he's the perfect guy to have Henne compete against, a younger Qb like Henne should beat him out, if he doesn't then he can't argue about not being given a fair shot. No draft pick investment, a guy Henne should be able to beat, a guy that can play in this league, I like the idea of bringing him in.

 

I still believe there should be competition; however, I just don't see Bulger beating Chad out. If Bulger in fact does, then he would deserve the starting nod, and we would be better for it in 2011 because we'd be playing the best man for the job.

I don't think any of the other guys (Palmer or Orton) are long term solutions; therefore I'm not a fan of bringing them in and creating any sense of conflict after the type of offseason we've had. It seems like we're starting to develop some unity and leadership, so I'd like to see where that leads us without being disrupted.

Personally, I'd rather have either an impressively developing Henne or draft a top 2012 QB than to use a 2nd on Orton or Palmer and watch them potentially cap our future success. IMO the only way this happens is to let Henne sink or swim. If he loses out to a FA like Bulger or Hasselbeck, then so be it; at least the bandaid at QB wouldn't cost us draft picks in the process. At least that's how I feel about it.