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Official WWE/TNA Wrestling Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by alen1, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. TheAnswer385

    TheAnswer385 Stay Low Run Free

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  2. TheAnswer385

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    damn all at the same time lol
     
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  3. unluckyluciano

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    I win, boom shakalaka!
     
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  4. Ray Finkle

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    Wow just terrible news. He was one of the all time greats. Sad that he was never inducted into the HOF while he was still alive.

    Kind of weird to hear of his passing since just recently started to rewatch his DVD.

    RIP Macho Man.
     
  5. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    So what you are saying is that this is YOUR fault?

    How many more wrestlers need to die before the government steps in and does something about...Ray watching their DVD's.

    How.
    Many?
     
  6. finyank13

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    Sucks that Elizabeth dusted out as well...
     
  7. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    From NBC Hardball talk:

    Most people know Savage from his great wrestling career or maybe from those Slim Jim commercials, but before he adopted the Macho Man persona Randy Poffo was a minor-league baseball player who spent 1971-1974 playing in the Cardinals’ and Reds’ farm systems.

    Baseball-Reference.com has all his statistics, which I recommend viewing alongside this video of Savage and Miss Elizabeth entering the ring. He debuted at rookie-ball as an 18-year-old in 1971, hitting .286 with a .492 slugging percentage, and advanced to high Single-A before calling it quits with a .254 batting average in 289 career games.
     
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  8. Ray Finkle

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    I was going to make a joke here but I'm deciding against it for once. Still too bummed about the Macho Man. It would be too soon.
     
  9. unluckyluciano

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    Don't tell him that, he won't stop watching the Kane dvd till kane gets hit with a comet.
     
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  10. Samphin

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    Savage was VERY particular about match walk throughs. He hated battle royals and made sure that there weren't too many people in the ring with him at any given time, and often spent a lot of his time just sitting in the corner. He was very nervous about getting injured and people going "off script." He was actually a pretty good baseball player before injuries forced him to quit. The prevailing thought was that he was hellbent on not ending his second career because of injuries too.

    Plus he knocked the bottom our of Stephanie McMahon, so there's that...
     
  11. MikeHoncho

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    Told my neighbor the news and he said "for real?". I found that (response) funny.


    Well, wherever he is, I just hope he's 1,000,000 %
     
  12. muscle979

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    Man what a shame. Not too old either. I would think WWE would put him in the hall of fame now. He's too big of a name for them to simply ignore this.
     
  13. Ray Finkle

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    Well there's always been a weird thing between Macho Man and Vince. Many think its because of the rumors of Macho Man sleeping with a young Stephanie. Others think there's bad blood when Savage left for WCW. A few times the WWE tried to bring Savage back he wanted tons of money. So who really knows.

    He absolutely should be in the HOF though, it's a no brainer.
     
  14. Samphin

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    Next year with WM being in Miami, it makes sense to put the guy from Sarasota, Florida in. I would love to see Dean Malenko go in too as him and his dad were very influential to that region. You end it with The Rock being inducted and you have two superstar names to sell at the top and at least one name most modern fans would remember in Malenko. After that you can fill in anyone you want.
     
  15. TheAnswer385

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    Ok, so I was watching smackdown and at the end THIS HAPPENED!!!

    [video=youtube;Az7bZpZwph8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az7bZpZwph8[/video]
     
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  16. muscle979

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    Yeah I noticed that at the end of the match as well. Not really in line with his normal persona.

    I've been trying to figure out what they're doing with Christian since they screwed him over. I'm not so sure yet they're not going to turn Orton heel at the PPV [that's what I would do] but part of me just thinks they're just going to continue having them be buddies so that no fans are mad when Christian puts Orton over again on Sunday and then leaves the heavyweight title picture.
     
  17. alen1

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    What in the world?
     
  18. Vengeful Odin

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    This is probably why his feud with DDP worked so well. Between the two of them, they had literally every spot in the match planned out and left nothing to chance.
     
  19. Ray Finkle

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    12 years ago today Owen Hart died. Seems crazy to think it's been that long. I'll also remember 'watching' (aka just listening to the scrambled feed) the PPV and just getting chills when JR made the announcement he had passed. Probably the 2nd worst thing that has ever happened in wrestling history with the Benoit thing being the first.

    It's such a shame that the WWE can never fully honor him by putting him in the HOF or giving him a stand alone DVD on his career as he was just a great performer and from what everyone says a greater guy.

    RIP Owen.
     
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  20. Samphin

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    I'm willing to bet the Randy Orton thing is an inside joke or dare with someone he made in the back. It remind me of the Spirit Squad. My guess is someone probably dared him to do something out of character on the show, and he went with something like that. Either that or he really got jazzed about a fairly standard RKO and just had to express himself...
     
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  21. TheAnswer385

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    If you guys have any spare time check this out:
    http://therealddp.blogspot.com/

    The whole DDP Macho Man Feud from wcw with commentary from ddp himself. Starts with DDP discussing some memories of Macho Man Randy Savage.
     
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  22. Vengeful Odin

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    Great read from Deadspin. The DWOTW column is usually a highlight and this one is no exception.
     
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  23. Samphin

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    Yeah I enjoyed that too, V.O.

    And it jives with my experience with Randy Savage as well, about his voice being the same whether or not he was working or not, and how cautious he was about everything. About 10 years ago I was at my training facility when the owner came out and told us to clean this "poophole" up because Savage needed the ring for an interview and he wanted to make a great impression on him.

    So about three of us made the place as professional as we could in the short amount of time we had. Our reward was to stick around and hang out with MAcho for a little bit after his scheduled interview was done. I can tell you that he was very cordial and answered every question we had, told some funny stories and did so in true Macho fashion. Changing his voice as deadspin writes about from yelling to creepy whispers. his hand movements that he always did on camera, he did while "shooting the ****," and he was very aware of everything around him and was particular about the background for his interview and all aspects of the production.

    In short, he was a perfectionist, but was also very very human, which isn't always the case with people at that level (Barry Horowitz, for example is EXTREMELY bitter...and hates the British Bulldog). Anyhow, it was an awesome lifetime memory for me since I gre wup watching Macho, and to have him sit and watch me bump and compliment me on how I sold clotheslines was pretty much my career highlight (that and bodyslamming The Great Khali while goofing around in the ring one night).

    I kind of feel that the WWE should do one of their specials that they do when one of their own passes (the real interviews from people that knew him and/or looke dup to him), but I can understand why they don't. He hasn't been employed by them in 16 years...but still. He was and is one of the few crossover stars that just about everyone recognizes. In fact, at the Yankee game tonight, they played the Village People song "Macho Man," and put his picture up to an impressive applause from the crowd.
     
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  24. Samphin

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    CM Punk wearing the tribute Macho Man garb. The guy just keeps making himself way cooler. And then doing the second rope straight elbow drop that Bret Hart used to do was a nice dick move to do in front of him. It is those little things. The attention to detail, that makes him the best wrestler in the world, currently.
     
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    Anyone think the Cena's giant leap was a stab at Orton's jumping split?
     
  26. Ray Finkle

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  27. Samphin

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    Yeah. Definitely an inside joke of some sorts.
     
  28. unluckyluciano

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    [video=youtube;4Fw5lw-1gUg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fw5lw-1gUg&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    Yikes!!
     
  30. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Warrior is so funny.
    Hogan will shrug whatever "evidence" Warrior puts forward and the wrestling world will continue to do what it has always done. Does anyone give a **** about Hogan burying Warrior 20 years ago?
     
  31. TheAnswer385

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    [video=youtube;QBAriNbrhUk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBAriNbrhUk&feature=related[/video]

    Still got it.
     
  32. unluckyluciano

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    What happened between the ultimate warrior and hulk hogan?
     
  33. muscle979

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    I'll use the spoiler tag in case anybody is on the west coast.

    I definitely didn't see a heel turn in Christian's future. My kids are going to be pissed. I still like Orton more as a heel.
     
  34. Ray Finkle

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    Warrior is one of the few guys that beat Hogan cleanly and it still hurts Hogan and his ego to this day so every chance he gets he buries the Warrior staying how he couldn't live up to Hogan and how he bombed as the champion etc (statements which are true). Hogan absolutely killed him on Warrior's WWE DVD, along with everything else too. And Hogan actually brought in the Warrior to WCW just to beat him and once he did WCW fired the Warrior. So basically Warrior is pissed Hogan keeps knocking him and Hogan still can't get over the fact he had to job to Warrior at WM6, which was a great match. It's a battle of egos.

    I figured once they didn't pull the trigger with Orton the few days after he beat Christian for the title, Christian would be the one to go heel since Smackdown is lacking in the heel department and the WWE doesn't want to get behind a newer guy like a Shaemus or Barrett.
     
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  35. muscle979

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    I'm a little skeptical of Christian as a heel but I'm definitely interested in seeing how he does with it. But thinking about it a little more this is probably a better way to keep Christian around the top of the card on Smackdown.

    On another note I often wonder why Mark Henry is still working in the WWE. The guy's been stale since 1999 or so.
     
  36. Ray Finkle

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    Christian has the experience of being a pretty effective heel. Like you said anything that keeps him around the top of Smackdown is good.

    As for Mark Henry, no clue how he still has a job. Like you said he hasn't been interesting since 1999.
     
  37. muscle979

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    The last I remember him being a heel was as a member of the brood with Edge and that other guy. But admittedly I wasn't really watching WWE from about 2003 to last January. The more I think about it the more I like the idea. It seems like the best way to potentially give him the belt back as well. He doesn't have to necessarily 'cleanly' beat Orton being a heel now.

    I thought it was interesting that he helped Orton retain the championship just to bash him on the head and steal the belt. I mean you think he wouldn't care that much which one of them won it. So I guess this indicates a desire for revenge against Orton specifically. I'm looking forward to hearing his first interview. I'm wondering if it will go something like, "I was screwed over having to defend my title days later against Orton just because he waltzed in to SmackDown. Teddy Long and company took advantage of me and walked all over me. Screw this no more mr. niceguy."

    I'll be looking to see how many years Mark Henry remains as 'the world's strongest jobber.'
     
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  38. Samphin

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    Henry still has a job because he is a good pro, knows how to work with younger talents, doesn't mind putting them over, and as a former U.S. Olympian who is legit strong, he brings a form of credibility. He is retiring soon apparently though. But the guy was one of the larger investments the WWE put into as a rookie and while he never became the superstar they envisioned him to be, he has always done what he was told and tried hard. You try to keep those types of veterans around if you can. They are good for the next generation of wrestlers to learn from.
     
  39. muscle979

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    The Tough Enough finale was pretty disappointing. Mainly IMO because they barely showed any of the matches with Bill DeMott. I was looking forward to the matches all week and they basically gave us nothing. I especially want to see the matches because it appears the match put Andy over in a pretty big way. I thought Jeremiah should have won the competition honestly. Did the two finalists even get the crowd reaction he got from the live audience? I think him being a little raw was not a great reason to give him the boot. They're giving away a developmental contract, not hiring somebody to main event with John Cena at the next pay per view. Jeremiah was a decent performer and clearly the most charismatic. And he didn't have to be an arrogant wanna be rock star to pull it off. No surprise really that a big guy won. The big guys were getting about a dozen more chances than everybody else throughout. I mean look how long Eric stayed around. He should have been cut the first couple of weeks or so. I do respect Andy on a personal level though he seemed lacking in the charisma department from our limited perspective. I wasn't in love with the sentiment he put out that only college wrestlers and football players deserve to be in the WWE.
     
  40. TheAnswer385

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    Did you know Jeremiah was from VH1's rock of love or whatever one had that Daisey girl?
     

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