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Sports Buzz: Henne needs to tell Brandon Marshall to shut his pie hole

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by jim1, Jun 8, 2011.

  1. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    • Chad Henne’s leadership — organizing workouts and incorporating Brian Daboll’s offense — has impressed Dolphins teammates during the lockout. His personality is steady and calm, not fiery, and though some NFL people say he needs to stand up for himself when Brandon Marshall berates him at times on the sideline, Henne feels no need to change his look-the-other-way approach.

    “It doesn’t bother me,” he said recently. “Emotions can get the best of people.” Has Marshall ever apologized for snapping at him? Never, Henne said. ESPN’s Merril Hoge said Henne needs to tell Marshall “to shut his bleeping mouth” or, as, CBS’ Rich Gannon said, “jump in a lake.”

    • The Dolphins, who sold 62,000 season tickets just five years ago, are running well below last year’s 52,000 — not surprising because of the lockout and 1-7 home record. Pay cuts for coaches and team executives took effect in the past week.

    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/06/...ne-hill-um-player-behavior.html#ixzz1OjSVzvhB
     
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  2. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'll say this..If Brandon Marshall does anything this year that is disrespectful to the team, any gesture or act that lacks class, and humility, then imo, he's a lost cause, and we need to dump him..

    That boy needs to come into this season correct, with his mouth shut, if he doesn't, if he forgets what he went thru, if he doesn't put into perspective that hes playing a game, and getting paid millions, and the embarrassment he caused us, then he's nothin but a POS.
     
  3. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    And it will get worse if the Heat do win the championship. The Heat are making a serious run at turning this into a basketball 1st town. I have never heard talk radio like this - 3 out of 4 calls are about the Heat and the other call is divided betweem Marlins, Canes, Dolphins and Yankees. Poor, poor Panthers. If they left no one would notice.
     
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  4. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully it makes Henne mad enough he tries to hit Marshall in the face every time he throws him the ball this year.

    On a real note, Marshall needs to get his act together before something bad happens to him and he finds himself on the wrong side of a prison cell.
     
  5. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    I will not buy tickets for any Fins game until the return of the 1pm September home games. That's when I'll know Ross and his cronies are more interested in winning than in glitzy pre game fashion/celebrity shows. They say they're trying to Improve the fan experience, my friggin my ***. If they want to increase fan satisfaction, win some damn games for a change. I'd rather bake in the sun while we beat the tar outta New England than sit comfortably while they run up 42 points on our asses. JMO.
     
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  6. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Henne needs to tell him to STFU and just catch the ball when it is thrown to him. I don't know who dropped more gimme passes, Marshall, Hartline or Sean Smith. They all had their share.
     
  7. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    God, I don't even know where to start with this.....
     
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  8. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    No comment.......

    Good to see Henne is not bothered by some distractions.
     
  9. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Henne needs some Captain Ahab added into his game.
     
  10. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    How about some Gunnery Sgt Hartman?

    [video=youtube;VXggCHDasj4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXggCHDasj4[/video]
     
  11. Frayser

    Frayser Barstool Philosopher

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    Here's an idea: maybe our COACH shouldn't allow his young starting QB to be berated on the sideline by the primadonna receiver he brought in during the offseason. I know . . . crazy!
     
  12. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    We knew what we were getting with Marshall. These guys rarely change.

    I actually do not mind a little fiery attitude from Marshall. He's very competitive.

    With that, I also like the calm mentality from Henne. Not everyone is a 'rah rah' guy. As long as both realize that these supposed conflicts are for the betterment of the team and not a personal issue between them, I could care less.

    Who knows? This dynamic might actually work out for us. The team surely researched, contemplated, and further researched and contemplated before throwing two second-rounders to the Broncos to bring this guy in (and a hefty contract to boot!). They felt comfortable enough with the risks vs rewards.

    We'll see how it goes this year.....
     
  13. firedan

    firedan Well-Known Member

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    Yes Henne needs to lead and that includes telling othersto shut up at times.Even if the heat win several titles and the seaon is lost to a strike(I still think they will play) Miami will always be a football first town.
     
  14. MikeHoncho

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    Yeah, being a voice in the locker room is definitely something Henne needs to take a stab at come camp.

    Though, he ought to be careful, he's a quiet dude so there is the chance he comes off as prodding.
     
  15. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    don't hold back...
     
  16. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Nah, he needs a "my way or the highway" type of attitude not so much innayaface, sort of the Warren Moon :

    "If you try and pull that **** with me I will bury you in this offense"

    Statement to Chris Carter.
     
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  17. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    As for Marshall, let him dig his own grave. There is no reason to join him in the "make yourself look like an ***" line. Marshall does a great job of that all by himself.
    I have to say though it's nice to see a few Dolphins fans starting to understand what a fraud and a jerk-off Brandon really is. I have taken heat for a while now over this just like I did when I started my JT is a douche crusade. We all know how that turned out.
     
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  18. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Man, I need to get my photoshop back!
     
  19. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    I know you want to use my avy but it makes no sense.
     
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  20. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    Wow. People are really overreacting about Marshall. The guy is hardly a problem. A lot of good receivers act like that all the time. When you are a good player, a play-maker, you always want the ball and you'll usually ***** if you don't get it and if the O isn't living up to its potential. Also, Henne hasn't yet earned the right to get that much into anyone's face. Look at what Marshall has accomplished in his career. If Henne wants to command respect and be listened to as a leader or whatever, he first is going to have to prove it ON THE FIELD. Lead by example. He hasn't yet done so, imo. Marshall is NOT a problem.
     
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  21. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    When has Marshall made plays in Miami?
     
  22. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    Limited opportunities bro(hence the *****ing) and he's flashed it at times ...AND I said CAREER, which was my point.
     
  23. padre31

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    Earlier in the yr he was open several times down the field.

    I know you are not a Marshall fan, in his defense Dan Henning was not very creative with him, imo Daboll uses him a bit like he used Josh Cribbs, or rather how Cribbs was used in Cleveland.
     
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  24. djphinfan

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    this is not just about football, this is about him acting like a man, being grateful, and being intelligent enough to know when to keep your mouth shut...This year is the year for him to realize that, considering what he showed last year, and what happened to him this offseason, if he doesn't get that, it just shows you how immature he is at this stage of becoming a man.

    He needs to act in total support and be a good soldier, if he doesn't have the mental capacity to do that, than whatta you wanna do, let him run sh%$?
     
  25. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'am a fan of Marshalls talent for our team, and want it really bad moving forward, but he is faced with some mental adversity...I hope the boy grows up for our sake.
     
  26. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    I can't explain it dude, it just makes me laugh when put on a flying monkey's head...I still can't believe no one bit in the graphics forum. I was imagining a flying monkey from Oz with your Avy's face on it juxtaposed against Jessica Alba in my sigpic. Kind of a beauty and the beast theme, no?

    I was gonna PM for your permission...After the fact, LOL
     
  27. CaribPhin

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    No one's telling him to get in Marshall's face. We're saying, including damn good NFL QB Rich Gannon, that he should tell Marshall to get the **** out of his. If a guy who recently started working where you've been working for the past 3 years starts shouting at you, you're going to take that just because at the other similar business he did well? Just because the NFL is about sports and entertainment, it's still a business. People moan and cry when people talk about character issues, but in any other job, Brandon Marshall would have been fired in both Denver and Miami.
     
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  28. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    It is mostly about football bro. As I said before; Marshall has already proven himself to be a great player. Henne has not. ....and you don't know exactly what was being said nor in what context it was being said and it doesn't even really matter. As I previously mentioned; it's something A LOT of good/great players do. They always want the rock. Believe me, you want that type of attitude from some players. For what exactly should Marshall be grateful to Henne? This may be an issue for some fans, but in reality, this is nothing out of the norm for a team. It happens all the time....from little league to the pros. There are other issues with the team which one can worry about, but this is real small potatoes, imo.
     
  29. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    Bro, I never said that I want him to run s--t. That's not what this is about and personal stuff aside, working all off-season with a speed coach is being a pretty good "soldier", no? Lead by example.
     
  30. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    No? I guess I have to work on my reading comprehension. I could swear that this thread title says; "Henne needs to tell Brandon Marshall to shut his pie hole". I'd say that's suggesting Henne needs to get in Marshall's face, no? ...or this from the OP: "Merril Hoge said Henne needs to tell Marshall “to shut his bleeping mouth” or, as, CBS’ Rich Gannon said, “jump in a lake". So, yes, people are suggesting he "get in Marshall's face".
    Again, that's not telling him to get in Marshall's face? Ok. I'm getting dizzy.

    Well, just to play along with this analogy...YES! If that business has done poorly and one of the top employees is not performing well and not raising the business to another level as expected and the CEO decides to bring in a guy whom has a very good track record, than yes, the staff most definitely should listen if they want to be better and learn from a proven businessman or just keep following the same guy down the same road of mediocrity or to Chapter 13. But dude, this is apples and oranges and it's getting away from the point.

    Same goes for Henne with his deficiencies and lack of production. Believe me, for presidents or CEOs that is a MUCH bigger reason to fire someone, rather than an employee whom has proven that he can produce at a high level, but may have a loud mouth. A lot of the good ones do indeed have "loud mouths".
     
  31. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Sceeto, heres what Iam saying, first of all, the man made a couple boneheades acts last year, he got some heat for that because they were unnecessary and childish, no big deal, I can get over that, then this offseason, he gets in trouble and continues a trend of incidents that happen with women that involve some sort of police interaction and or physical violence with women..Thats downright stupidity to let that continue after telling us that he was a more mature man, and that he was all about being a great player and teammate..So in 1 year he has dissapointed us in that dept and this franchise, after we made him the highest paid receiver in the game..So, if you so happen to get another chance to play, and you cant change your ways and shut your mouth and just play the game, then you got some real problems upstairs, so if you do come out and make an *** of yourself this year, bottom line, your nothin but a little boy who hasn't learned how to be man..I Don't want that type of player on this team, regardless of his talent, he doesn't deserve it if he can't learn from his mistakes, and humble his actions and mouth..

    If he comes out and plays his game, and plays the role of a good teammate, he will have my full support.but he has to show the ability to mature and learn..
     
  32. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Well... no. "Shut his pie hole" were my words, just a different way of conveying the same thought, that Henne as a QB needs to tell his WR Marshall, when Marshall gets verbally abusive and demanding, to shut the f*** up. That can be done without getting in someone's face.

    Aside from all this kind of garbage I like Marshall, but I would suggest to him, since the coaches, not Henne, call the plays, that he get in the coaches' faces when he wants to demand the ball. See what happens. I would also suggest that Sparano, Dabol and the WR coach get in Marshall's face when he attacks Henne and tell him to shut the f*** up. Ideally I would think that you'd want a QB to do that himself, but it's obvioulsy not Henne's style, not in his makeup. That doesn't necessarily make him a p****, just low key in that regard.

    So I'd prefer to see the coaches do it, or maybe one of the team leaders like Jake Long do it- when Marshall starts mouthing off and gets out of line tell him straight up- dude, know your role and shut the f*** up. And if necessary bench him for a few plays or don't let him start a few games, give him something to think about the next time that he feels like running off at the mouth.
     
  33. Killerphins

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    86 catches is limited opportunities WTF!... How many TD's did he have? What was his YAC? You do know that over 50 WR's in this league had more TD's than Marshall right?
    As far as entire career it doesn't matter to me at all what BM did in Denver. That is the past and plus now he has been paid big dollars. We have even heard him say he has 50 million dollars he can do whatever he wants. That is a total "me" statement if I ever heard on yet you are willing to give him a pass because of his name.
    He needs to prove himself here and so far he hasn't. If I was Sparano I would be chewing his lollygagging *** daily.
    You get paid that kind of money you better be making plays and he hasn't done that here.
     
  34. Sceeto

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    Exactly right on the bold part.

    Short of O.J, I don't like to get too much into the personal stuff, ESPECIALLY the domestic/wife/girlfriend issues. We never really know all of the true details. MANY good/great players have off-field issues. If you try to put together a team with only players whom have squeaky clean records and no off-field issues, you will have a team of about 3 players. Marshall is hardly a problem for this team. There are plenty of other issues with the team for one to worry. Marshall is not one of them.

    You ignored a lot of my points, but that's cool my man. C'mon bro. "mature man"? Again, try to field a team with just "mature men" ....and taking time out of your off-season to work on your running with a speed coach is partly "about being a great player", no? He hasn't disappointed at all. His talent is obvious. He can't throw the ball to himself. He can't call plays. He can't be an interior lineman. He doesn't call max protect on a lot of plays, etc, etc, etc. Again, his talent is obvious. Look at what he's accomplished with a "decent" QB on a so-so team. Again, try to field a team with just goodie-goodies and see where it gets you. Marshall is NOT a problem. Look at LT, one of greatest LBs of all-time. He wasn't exactly a squeaky clean, goodie, goodie. He had worse off-field issues than Marshall and I'm sure you wouldn't mind having him on your sidelines getting into other players faces, would you?

    Another chance to play? The guy was traded. Do you really think we were the only team that wanted him and he would be out of work if we didn't sign him? That I highly doubt. Who are we to tell him to shut his mouth and just play the game and be a man? We try to act all holier than thou. Glass houses dude. Again, his talent is obvious and if he gets his opportunities to shine, you will be singing his praises. Was him working all off-season with a speed coach to help the team also making an *** out of himself.? MARSHALL IS NOT A PROBLEM!!

    Again, good luck trying to field a team of choir boys. Football is a tough, violent sport. You can't generalize things. We just disagree, but you still rock bro! :up:
     
  35. PhinGeneral

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    I have to Disagree some. Whether you like Henne or not, the QB is the leader by importance and has to be the one to control his offensive teammates, by whatever method that works effectively. Now whether his teammates actually listen to him or respect him might be a different matter, especially if he hasn't proven himself a capable QB. But Henne has the right to get into Marshall's face if he so chooses. It's up to him to make his words or actions mean something.
     
  36. Sceeto

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    :lol: Exactly!!! Thanks dude! Telling someone to shut their pie hole is not getting into their face? oooo.k. Should he whisper it through a megaphone or something? This is funny.

    Sure, that's a good idea. Let's see what that does for the team. Again, this is not out of the norm and Marshall is certainly the least of our problems. I already addressed the other points in a previous post. Peace!
     
  37. muscle979

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    Henne needs to stand up for himself. That's how you get a guy like Marshall to shut up, if such a thing can be done.
     
  38. Sceeto

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    More accurately, the QB is "expected" and "should" be the leader by importance, but must be a leader through "performance", first and foremost. The title in and of itself does not mean much, jmo bro.
     
  39. PhinGeneral

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    That's fine, but I still disagree. Mark Sanchez is a leader, and he's not all that good. If you're a QB, you have to take the bull by the horns. Whether he earns continued, long term respect will be determined by his performance.
     
  40. Striking

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    And this is why I'll always be a Vernon Carey fan. He may not be perfect but the man keeps his mouth shut, supports his teammates and coaches, and does whatever is asked of him even if its not in his best interests personally. Maybe someone in Miami knows of a story of him mitching and boaning but I've never heard of it.
     

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