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Who do you want to be the starting QB for 2011?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Hurricane, Jun 20, 2011.

Who do you want to be the starting QB for 2011?

  1. Chad Henne

    28 vote(s)
    47.5%
  2. Tom Brandstater

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Marc Bulger

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Kerry Collins

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Jake Delhomme

    0 vote(s)
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  6. Dennis Dixon

    0 vote(s)
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  7. Trent Edwards

    0 vote(s)
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  8. Bruce Gradkowski

    0 vote(s)
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  9. Rex Grossman

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Caleb Hanie

    2 vote(s)
    3.4%
  11. Matt Hasselbeck

    1 vote(s)
    1.7%
  12. Tarvaris Jackson

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Kevin Kolb

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. Matt Leinart

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Donovan McNabb

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  16. Matt Moore

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  17. Kyle Orton

    3 vote(s)
    5.1%
  18. Carson Palmer

    12 vote(s)
    20.3%
  19. Terrelle Pryor

    1 vote(s)
    1.7%
  20. JaMarcus Russell

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  21. Brady Quinn

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  22. Alex Smith

    1 vote(s)
    1.7%
  23. Troy Smith

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  24. Vince Young

    6 vote(s)
    10.2%
  25. Other

    5 vote(s)
    8.5%
  1. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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  2. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    Can't get better than our all-pro lineup of Green/Lemon/Beck in 2007. Ah, the glory days.
     
  3. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    as jon gruden said during the MNF broadcast 2 years ago in that legendary dolphins vs. jets game, after we switched on that goalline with the WC and henne back and forth..."and who comes in now...ITS GOTTA BE HENNE"....sure brown came in to win the game but i think i made my point....:shifty:
     
  4. padre31

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    Hurricane-san, FOCUS, must be a #1 pick!
     
  5. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Your move
     
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  6. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    Titans game 2010...jus sayin
     
  7. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member


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  8. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    That could also just mean they didn't believe in the QBs in the last draft.
     
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  9. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Not sure Sanchez had any better defense to bail him out, IMO that area is about a wash. He did though have a much better overall receiving corps to throw to, especially in 2010. Henne has never had a Dustin Keller type of weapon at his disposal for one thing. Also as much as I like Bess, from a talent standpoint, I'd swap him, Marshall and Hartline for Holmes, Edwards and Cotchery any day.
     
  10. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Padre is the master pot stirrer, and I mean that as a compliment. Perhaps he will take you under his wing as a novice protege'.
     
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  11. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Henne vs Titans 2010: 19 of 28. 67.9 comp pct. 8.6 ypa and 91.4 QB rating. What's wrong with that?
     
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  12. Hurricane

    Hurricane Guest

    :sidelol: Hahahahahaahaha I saw this coming a mile away
     
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  13. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Come on bro. You know where I stand on that benching. It wasn't deserved. They were scapegoating for the good old boy coaching network that is the NFL. Pennington came out that week and said it wasn't even Henne's fault he got benched. :tongue2: But I do know that you've been pretty level headed in this debate. :up:
     
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  14. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    IMO Sanchez' big advantage was the play calling.
     
  15. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Uhhhh, how about not believing their rhetoric???
     
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  16. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If its not Brees, Manning (either one), Rivers, Big Ben, Brady, Rodgers, or Bradford then it may as well be Henne. Sink or swim like Ive been saying.
     
  17. Ozzy

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    Right but my comment had nothing to do with Henne's statistics. I mearly pointed out to him that all the quotes from Sparano boosting up Chad Henne will mean nothing to Sparano if he thinks Henne is not playing up to par. As it showed in the Titans game where he intended on taking the job away from Henne for the rest of the year.
     
  18. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Wait, people actually voted for Vince Young, Terrelle Pryor, and Alex Smith? You may as well just run the wildcat then and leave the actual QB position empty.
     
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  19. Ozzy

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    Exactly! Sparano will be quick to name another Qb the starter if he feels that Qb is better. Or, like the Titans game, he'll bench him with a quickness and especially this year if he thinks he's a lame duck coach.
     
  20. Ozzy

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    Well, that's why I added that I was jus sayin. Not because I felt Henne deserved to be benched but moreso it was in response to all the things you quoted Sparano as saying.

    I think this year Sparano might be even quicker to forget all the things he said because his job depends on it.

    I do want better Qb play but that's just it. At times last season Henne would flash signs of brilliance and that's why I want to see him get some solid competition and see where it goes. It will either bring the best out of him or he'll be a backup. Either way, I do think Henne deserves a chance to compete for the job.
     
  21. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Hmm, may have to hang up the keyboard if someone else can do the work, I had ACL surgeries on my thumbs from posting so much and I think I've lost 2 or 3 keystrokes Mr C.
     
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  22. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    I do agree but would tend to add that the play calling was called to more of Sanchez's strengths.
     
  23. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    So when they say Henne sucks, that's great, but this is just rhetoric? How is it rhetoric to say his numbers hold up? To say there's a great chance he starts? Was passing on Ryan Mallet 3 times rhetoric? Was drafting players who expand the length and width of attackable field which was a factor in Henne's numbers rhetoric? Would Pennington literally take the blame off Henne that week of the Titans game by saying it wasn't his fault ostensibly blaming either other players or the coaches in the name of rhetoric?
     
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  24. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Run the ball then throw to a Wide Open pro-bowler was Sanchez's strength?
     
  25. djphinfan

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    I feel good about his skillset handling his position with better variables in place and better players in place where we needed them. This is all about him being to take this whole team, and lead them and elevate their confidence in each other, he must have the ability and edge to challenge their focus, and give them a swagger thru good execution on the field..

    Pennington wrote the book on those topic's during our division title season, a great example is, remember going into Kansas city that year?, one of the coldest games of all time?, that freakin team came out, and executed up and down the field, with no mistakes, no penalties, just a purely focused team..Just a brilliant display of leadership for that team..

    Henne has to have the mental capacity to lead and motivate men, consistently..every damn week he needs to be in the forefront, slappin asses and helmets...He's just got to be the man..You've got to have that power of your teammates.
     
  26. CaribPhin

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    I think that's why a guy like Ken Stabler wants Henne to tell Marshall to jump off of something. He needs to establish that in the huddle, he reigns. I think the coaches have to let him take charge of the O, but he has to show the other guys that he's king and they better act right.
     
  27. padre31

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    Or:

    Top 5 Defense
    Top 8 ST
    Top 5 running game

    Be interesting to see what happens with the Cap as if the Jest let Edwards/Holmes/Smith walk, life will be a bit harder on the lad in the league.
     
  28. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    If your physical skills are deteriorating, you'll just have to make up for it with guile and cunning. ;)
     
  29. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    That's just not true and everyone should know this. He is good with timing routes, back shoulders, and his deep passes may not be the best but they connected at some of the most crucial times in games.
     
  30. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    Interesting or not, he sucks or he doesn't, he did make some big throws during the season. So he was either one lucky mofo or he slightly improved in certain areas...
     
  31. padre31

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    Or, he was surrounded with top offensive talent and a overall better team?

    Nah, sucks or he doesn't.
     
  32. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    At some point in time you will have to realize he got the ball to them. I don't care how much talent he had.
     
  33. padre31

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    Holmes SB MVP
    Edwards #3 overall
    Smith 4th pick

    Dustin Keller 1st rd pick

    Oline #1 pass protecting unit overall (I'd think, no one else ranked as highly individually in PFF's ratings) and did not have a starter miss a start in Sanchez's first two seasons in NY.

    Etc etc, whether it was Sanchez, or the talent, will be seen soon enough if they walk via FA Ozman.
     
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  34. Alex13

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    if the physical part is leavin, gotta go with all the experience you have bro.....:)
     
  35. padre31

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    Nah, can't cut mustard you should leave as I've never been much of a jar licker..:lol:
     
  36. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    With Sparano and Ireland hanging by a thread, I can’t see how Ross signs off on trading any of next years draft picks for Orton, Kolb or Palmer. I doubt Palmer is even on the market considering Brown’s track record.

    If Young gets cut from the Titians, he would be my choice. Two time pro bowler with little leverage and a lot to prove.
     
  37. Hurricane

    Hurricane Guest

    Several things wrong with this statement.

    Alex Smith is not a running quarterback; he's only had one year of 40+ rushing attempts. He ran in college, but they all do. Secondly, I can't speak for the Pryor vote, but VY (and Michael Vick, for comparison's sake) do not run wildcats on every play. In fact, don't Chris Johnson and DeSean Jackson run them for those respective offenses in the few opportunities they do use it?

    When VY/MV are on offense, do you think it's a design run on every play? Their career averages suggest otherwise.

    VY is around 5:1 pass, while Vick is 3:1.

    Any rationale for support of Henne is complete guesswork. Saying that he is a better option for us than guys who HAVE had NFL success (VY, Hasselbeck, McNabb, Palmer....) requires nothing but blind faith. Those with logic need not apply.
     
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  38. Frayser

    Frayser Barstool Philosopher

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    This was actually proven when it comes to dropped interceptions. Sanchez had an incredibly lucky season when it came to not being punished for his mistakes.
     
  39. the 23rd

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    agreed...
    what we need is serious competition @ QB on a level playing field w/o breaking the bank
    next year will be the year for drafting a franchise QB
     
  40. Stringer Bell

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    I don't believe they ever said Henne sucks. I don't believe they've said anything other than supportive words about him.

    I could care less about their rhetoric. Whether they say he's great, or he's bad, is irrelevant. Whether they say his numbers hold up, or that they want a mobile QB is irrelevant.

    The only thing that matters is their actions. They benched Henne last season. That matters. As you pointed out, they didn't draft Ryan Mallet. That also matters.
     

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