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Kendall Langford

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Southbeach, Jun 30, 2011.

  1. Southbeach

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    [​IMG]He wasn’t a first round pick.
    He wasn’t a high-priced free agent acquisition.
    He’s never scored an NFL touchdown.
    He’s never made a Pro Bowl.
    He’s not a quote machine for the media.
    Yet he might be the most consistently effective defensive player of the Tony Sparano Era.
    His name is Kendall Langford and although he might not get much attention from the fans and the media, those who have watched the play in the trenches closely over the past three seasons know just how valuable he is for the Dolphins defense.
    [​IMG]Because of some of the statements above, fans won’t even think of him as being one of the Dolphins most underrated players. In a recent poll on the Dolphins official Facebook page to determine who the fans thought was the team’s most underrated player, Langford finished 14th out of 16. Even The Finsiders analysts overlooked him in their selections for most underrated Dolphin player.
    So I’ve had enough with the lack of attention for #70, here are some facts about #70:
    Langford was ranked as the fifth best 3-4 Defensive End in the league by Pro Football Focus as you can see by clicking here.
    ESPN.com’s Tim Graham recently selected him as one of the top 25 players in the AFC East; not too shabby in a division that includes the talent-rich Patriots and Jets to go along with Dolphin players like Jake Long, Cameron Wake, Brandon Marshall, Karlos Dansby, and others.
    [​IMG]Langford has started 44 of 49 regular season and post-season games with the Dolphins despite playing the same position as a Pro Bowler (Randy Starks), a first round pick (Jared Odrick), and a virtual first round pick (Phillip Merling, the 32nd overall pick in 2008). Langford has stayed healthy and been productive at a position where stats are hard to measure. The 3-4 defensive end often lives in oblivion as the OLB’s collect all the sacks, the NT gets credit for stopping the run, and inside linebackers and defensive backs come up with turnovers. For example, the Pittsburgh Steelers have been arguably the NFL’s best defense over the past two decades, but can you name one of their defensive ends over that time?? Perhaps the most hardcore of fans might be able to throw out the name Aaron Smith. Nevertheless, 3-4 defensive ends are an integral part of the defense as they help stuff opposing running games while collapsing the pocket as pass rushers allowing the outside linebackers to get sacks off of the edge.
    Langford had more tackles than any Dolphin defensive lineman in 2010 and tied for the lead in sacks by a d-lineman with Randy Starks. Starks has also been great, but he was finally rewarded for his tremendous play in 2009 and very good play in 2010 with a spot in the Pro Bowl last year. Paul Soliai earned the franchise tag for his fine work as the team’s run-stuffing nose tackle.
    [​IMG]Back to the original statement, “he might be the most consistently effective defensive player of the Tony Sparano Era.” Since Sparano came to South Florida in 2008, only three defenders have been regular starters for all three seasons: Yeremiah Bell, Channing Crowder, and Langford. All have been very solid, but I would argue that Langford has been a slightly better all-around player at his position than the other two. However, the larger point is that it’s time for Kendall Langford to be recognized as more than just your run-of-the-mill NFL player. Langford has improved every season, and is now one of the best 3-4 defensive ends in football. And in what’s sure to be a heated training camp battle at defensive end between Langford, Starks, Odrick, Merling, and possibly Tony McDaniel; I’ll put my money on #70 to be starting on September 12th against the Patriots.
     
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  2. Rhody Phins Fan

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    I had no idea who Kendall Langford was when he was drafted but he became one of my favorite players when I read the crazy stat from college that when a team ran at him it averaged like .7 yards or something like that. He is a stud.
     
  3. MikeHoncho

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    Stud.
     
  4. Ohio Fanatic

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    I do not think the training camp battle will be as heated as you think.
    -Langford gets a starting spot. He has earned it for all your stated reasons
    -Starks gets the other DE position, but will float along the DLine depending on the situation
    -Odrick is the primary backup that gets major playing time, but really I see 4 starters for our 3 positions - Starks, Langford, Soliai and Odrick, and they will rotate according to need during the game.

    -either McDaniel or Merling is the odd man out wrt playing time as a backup. Merling is decent, but nowhere near the level of first four or Soliai, Merling should be the odd man out.
    - but, if Odrick is healthy, then I think McD will be the odd man out, unfortunately. Not because of lack of ability, but because of the money he will command
     
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  5. Southbeach

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    Langford is a Manster, and is HUNGRY for a big contract. I would feed him a side of beef and extend his contract. He is the one player who did not quit in the final game, and now he has even more to play for in a new contract.
     
  6. Stringer Bell

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    I think Odrick is going to work his way into the starting lineup this year, but I'm not sure if that will be at Starks' or Langford's expense.
     
  7. Southbeach

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    Hindsight is easy. Starks was to be our NT, and still may be if Solia is hurt, or not there.
     
  8. Stringer Bell

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    A lot of it is going to depend on matchups. I think we'll see Starks playing inside more than we'll see Odrick though.
     
  9. godolphins

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    He's our best D lineman imo
     
  10. Southbeach

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    Granted, and agreed. However, the Odrick pick was based on him moving there.
     
  11. Disgustipate

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    I don't think it has to be at anyones expense. You can give the maximum snap count that big linemen typically(700-750ish) to three players pretty evenly with all the roles those players fill in this defense. There would be virtually no room for anyone else, to a degree you might not be able to justify keeping Merling(much less McDaniel) over a developmental prospect who you can justify getting minimal snaps.

    I think you should pull Starks back from the base defense some. He's not a great fit for Nolan's 2-gap base, and Odrick has the size for it. Let Starks focus on his strength. He might not be a "starter, but I think the distinction is unimportant.
     
  12. Disgustipate

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    Starks played a single game as a NT, and the opposing runningbacks averaged I believe under 3 yards a carry, and I believe only one successful run came up the middle.

    The defense went from a base 1-gap to a 2-gap. That's the issue, I think. Starks likely gives up reach to 6'5"+ tackles, and that's significant when he's got to engage and make a read rather than just getting quick off the line into his gap assignment.
     
  13. Stringer Bell

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    I agree for the most part. Losing McDaniel means that someone is going to have to kick inside at times, and Starks seems the best suited for that. I do think that getting Starks and Odrick on the field at the same time is going to be something we try to do a lot, because they are very effective at rushing the passer.
     
  14. Southbeach

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    SB & D, I'm wondering if Nolan, with Odrick and Merling healthy, uses a 4 man line more. I like the idea but, have done so for a couple of years, based on our talent. I believe we have 3 LBs in Dansby, Misi, and Crowder who would do well in that alignment vs the run.

    Your thoughts?
     
  15. ckparrothead

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    Randy Starks was only "kicked inside" in the 3-4 in one game this year, the Bills game. After Odrick got hurt, Soliai became the base package Nose Tackle and Starks became the base package Right End. Starks continued his traditional role as a Defensive Tackle in nickel defenses, and he's excelled in that role.

    There's some thought to the idea that Starks is a little less suited to Nolan's responsibilities at Right End but in reality I think Randy just geared up to play Nose Tackle, trained for it all off season, focused on it, I even though disagree with folks that think he gained weight for it, nonetheless when you practice a position all off season trying to be able to play it, and then suddenly you're thrown back to your old position, you may not be as sharp at your old position as you would have been if you'd been allowed to continue sharpening your technique at the position you're going to play. I would note that Randy was more effective after about 5 games of the 2010 season. He drew a -3.0 cumulative rating from the graders at PFF in his first 5 games, and then a +12.6 for the remaining 11 games. If you look, that pace in the final 11 games is not far off what he did in 2009. So to me, what really happened is he geared up technique-wise to play Nose and then when he got suddenly shifted back to End, it took a good four games for his technique to get sharp again.

    That to me is why Randy Starks was worse in 2010 than he was in 2009. I'm trying to think of a good equivalent but if Jake Long were to (for whatever insane reason) work all off season at Left Guard thinking he was making a big move there, and then suddenly in Week 2 of 2011 he's back to being a Left Tackle, I wouldn't expect him to have as strong a year at Left Tackle in 2011 as he did in 2010. You need the off season and training camp to work and perfect your technique. The technique for playing Nose is a lot different than playing End. Training at Nose all during camp and off season had an effect, IMO.

    Jared Odrick will get his snaps as Tony McDaniel's direct replacement. There's plenty to go around. Randy Starks and Kendall Langford will lead the DL in snaps again, and even so Jared Odrick will have an opportunity to get about as many snaps as the "starter" Paul Soliai (500+).

    Kendall Langford is a guy that has made gradual, steady improvement every year. Much as Paul Soliai has done in his career, much as Randy Starks has done in his career, much as Cameron Wake has done in his short career.

    Often the improvement in effectiveness is more gradual and steady than the improvement in public recognition (which tends to be jerky and over-dramatic) and in snap counts (which can be the same). Paul Soliai wasn't "way way way way way" better in 2010 than he was in 2009. I often said that in 2008, Soliai was good to come in for one to two snaps and make a great play or two, and that in 2009 he improved to being good for two or three snap stretches before losing focus. In 2010 he was the same guy he was in 2009 for those two to three snap rotations, but he able to sustain it longer before having to come out. Randy Starks was actually very good in Tennessee as a part time defensive tackle, a little better in 2008 in Miami in much the same role as a rotation guy, and a little better in 2009. The big "jumps" were in snap counts and recognition, not necessarily play level. Same was true of Cameron Wake from 2009 to 2010, only a gradual improvement in play level but a huge jump in recognition.

    Hard to say if Kendall Langford's steady, gradual improvement as a player will see him finally hitting the critical mass that triggers a lot more recognition and the label "breakout" which may be misplaced on him...but I think he's among the Dolphins' most likely players to have that happen to him. Another one is Sean Smith. Sean can literally play the exact same level of football in 2011 as he did in 2010, but if the ball sticks to his hands instead of dropping out of them, he's a "breakout" player.
     
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  16. Southbeach

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    :drink: Cheers! I'm curious. Are you a computer wizard, or just a Sy-Fy Fan?

    QUOTE=Aqua4Ever04;1506884]This is true. Makes your point more clear. :hi5:[/QUOTE]
     
  17. VanDolPhan

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    And if Odricks pans out he'll be the reason the Dolphins won't have to give Starks a huge contract in a year or 2. Scary that Starks will start this season still only being 27 years old.

    If it plays out right and Odrick is a stud at RE the Dolphins will have a very nice trading chip in Starks for a 3-4 starved team. Be real nice to be one of those teams that gets a high pick for a surplus player for once.
     
  18. Southbeach

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    A4EO4 and The Amory Wars from Coheed & Cambria.
     
  19. Southbeach

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    Agreed, that would be something special and, who know what may happen with Merling this year?
     
  20. ckparrothead

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    Merling will in all likelihood continue to play poorly, as he did in 2008, 2009 and 2010.
     
  21. Stringer Bell

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    We'll use a four man line on passing downs. But I don't see us doing it in our base D.
     
  22. ckparrothead

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    That WAS a pretty sweet play.

    But he's like another Tony Bua. One play that makes a mark and that people will remember (do you remember that hit Bua made?) but the rest of his career sucks. Or maybe if you really want to be friendly toward Phil Merling you could compare him with Greg Camarillo. But I think Greg was a more solid player all around even after he made that ONE play that will live in our minds forever.
     
  23. Southbeach

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    Merling did not play poorly in 09, he was just about the same as McD i 10
     
  24. Southbeach

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    Friends are always good to come by, and a welcome addition. You do yourself a dis-service in not reading, and expanding your horizons, with the comics your favorite band used to write The Amory Wars.
     
  25. MrClean

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    He'll have to play better than he ever has to start ahead of either one. Stay healthy too. I won't hold my breath waiting for this to happen.
     
  26. ckparrothead

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    I disagree strongly. Merling has been poor every year he's been here to date.
     
  27. Killerphins

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    When Seattle took Lawrence Jackson in 2008 over Merling seemed like we had had a steal.
    Phil Merling is a bust. Jackson is a Lion now I think.
     
  28. Conuficus

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    Well away from here
    I have to quote what was said in a game day chat once:

    "Langford never makes any impact plays,.......we need to trade his ***."
     
  29. Southbeach

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    I agree that Merling has been disappointing but, not poor. In 09, he was #13 for 3-4 DEs. 376 snaps, 19 tackles, 2 assists, 3 BPs, 3 sacks, 3 hits, 6 pressures, and 17 stops.

    In 10, McD was #13, 422 snaps, 21 tackles, 5 assists, 2 BPs, 3 sacks, 2 hits, 12 pressures, and 20 stops.

    I see very little difference in what we got from each player in different years. The big difference was the expectation, which I had as well.
     
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  30. Southbeach

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    The same thing was said about Dansby during FA.
     
  31. Disgustipate

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    Merling isn't awful, but he ain't really starter-quality either. If anything, turning him into a 3-4 End was a mistake. Its a high risk or reward decision, turning a normal 4-3 end into a 3-4 DE. Even guys who have ability like Matt Roth can look pretty mediocre. Then again, you see a guy like Justin Smith and the playoff is pretty appealing.

    You kinda wonder if Merling might not be the next jumbo SOLB conversion. He just might be worth giving a shot at it rather than being the 4th DE at best.
     
  32. djphinfan

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    If he were to lose weight, I don't see the symmetrical balance in his body, nor the right ratio of musculature to produce the athleticism required to play linebacker.
     
  33. PhinsPhan23

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    Are you suggesting taking Cam Wake off the field, even in a 4 DL / 3 LB set? Sorry, I just couldn't agree with taking our best pass rusher off the field, even on running downs.
     
  34. Samphin

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    Langford is going to be on Sirius NFL Radio tonight @ 9 p.m. eastern if anyone is interested.
     

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