8th Circuit Rules: Lockout is legal...but lifted?

That would be good and bad for the UDFA's
"Hey Mom, I just signed with <insert nfl team here>!"
"that's great son! When does practice start"
"hell if I know, momma"
"Well, get back outside. That grass ain't gonna cut itself"

 

I have to think it would be in everyone's best interest to completely ignore this ruling.

 

The lockout still applies to everybody. What the court ruled is that Nelson has to have a specific evidentiary hearing regarding the applicability of the lockout to UDFA's and free agents. Her ruling on that matter, either way, could then be appealed.

Nothing has really changed and nothing in the Order should stop the ongoing negotiations. There is enough risk for both sides. The most intriguing part of the Order is that the Court didn't answer the question as to whether or not the lockout might become illegal in September, when the players are actually working and earning their paychecks. The ruling is designed to allow the players to come back and try again in September.

It was legal hair splitting at its finest. The parties need a settlement agreement, sooner rather than later.

 

But that would be true FAs, not just those with 4 yrs of service, right?

I would think all parties would want to ignore this ruling ans just finish what is supposed to be close.

 

At the end of the day, this ruling shouldn't stop, stall or otherwise hinder the obvious progress made between the NFL and the PA over the lasts everal weeks. Both sides would be incredibly foolish to walk away now.

But you're right, there was potentially a small leverage shift to the players in that Nelson could quickly rule that free agents can be signed.

 

What a weird paradox. All the unsigned rookies can sign, but immediately when they do, they no longer are allowed to talk to the team. It almost make smore sense, to leave them unsigend so you can talk to them about offensive/defensive philosophies, etc., and then just sign them once the lockout is lifted.

 

They can show they are being harmed by the lockout, and Nelson has to have a hearing w/both sides offering evidence then issuing a ruling etc.

 

I find this release of decision strange, with free agency now being debated on matching offers from original teams. Do the courts not watch TV or, do they?

 

They watch Courtv....

 

If the negotiations truly are at the 5 yard line as previously claimed, then the NFLPA needs to simply continue the negotiating process. The negotiations apparently set the free agency requirements back to 4 years, so eventually everyone who deserves to be an FA will be one. No need to upset the apple cart.

Of course, I'm sure Kessler and Quinn are drafting the paperwork for Nelson right now.

 

Perhaps, it is something to push the deal before the mediator goes on vacation. Other than that, is does not make any sense.

The FA, both NFL and college, are not going to do anything at this point, although agents may. The timing was as bad as it gets, with no apparent reason.

 

Good news. One has to wonder if judges want a little publicity, and their involvement has greatly diminished.

 

I look forward to the movie version, years from now, as to what really went on. You know it's coming.

 

Carlton Banks as DeMaurice Smith!

 

This ruling couldn't have come at a worse time, i have a bad feeling this could set things back

 

I don't think so. If I'm reading it correctly, any player that has no previous ties to the NFLPA should have full access to team facilities because the NFLPA doesn't exist.

 

I don't think this thing is going to be done in time. If it's not done next week, my interest will wane in football. Without a whole season, it just won't feel normal. I feel like it's an asterisk type season, like when the Spurs won. It just wasn't as fun.

I think the NFL will be surprised at the loss of fandom if they don't get things started on time. I'll be one of them.

 

I am not worried one bit. NCAA football season starts soon.

 

Completely, agree. Florida is already a CFB state. It's going to become an even stronger one if the NFL doesn't get its act together.

 

CFB is just better football than the NFL to me. More dynamic, more innovative, etc.

 

NCAA football is just crap to me Alen, ugh, cannot stand it from the nonsense about Undefeated Teams not making national title games to pay for play schemes, I'd frankly rather watch Soccer.

 

Blasphemer!!!!!!

 

I think you know what comes next.

 

I'd watch soccer over football anyday. But that's besides the point, I don't really care about the BCS. I watch it because the best football minds are there.

 

I feel the same way towards the Canadian league. At least with College we are seeing a bunch of future stars growing before our eyes. In the Canadian league you get a ton of castoffs that will. for the most part, never sniff the NFL.

 

Ultimately pointless though alen, when the best teams do not play games that matter, for championships, for no other reason then the System, I refuse to invest my time into viewing such things, save for of course, as whole though what a load of nonsense it is, one can like the schemes, heck I used to like the Stone Cold Stunner, to me there is very little difference between the two.

 

No you are not, you are merely watching the best 80 semi pro players that a Coach can pay to come to their school wrapped up in some bull**** "school spirit" package featuring Lee Corso putting on the mascots' head pieces, how appropriate for the sham that crap is, perhaps the NCAA officials should wear clown noses when they appear on camera to complete the truth telling?

Andrew Luck staying in school is met with shock and derision, "how can he pass up on all of that money!?!" the ESPN radio guys go on and on about, well gee fellas, isn't that the point of the student athlete..you know...to get a degree and stuff?

Otherwise just call it minor league football and be done with it, but they can't say that so the farce rolls forwards.

At least with the CFL there is no such pretention, you watch or not, no bilge about "student athletes" no crap about "old rivalries" or "campuses"