Well, previously I'd say "in the CFL' as he would certainly get chances to play, however with Jerry Glanville and Marty Schottenheimer now coaching in the UFL I'd probably say in the UFL as NFL guys like to deal with other NFL guys, if he goes there and plays well then scouts can hit up the Fmr successful NFL Coaches for a endorsement and they will know what the scouts will be looking for in a player.
Plus there is no loophole in CFL contracts anymore that lets these guys take off for NFL training camps.
Add in: DeAndre McDaniel Derrick Locke Terrence Tolliver Now Im happy. I think McDaniel could earn a roster spot, I think Locke could probably take Hilliards spot or just allow us to not sign Reggie Bush for 5M or something silly per season. Tolliver isnt a true deep threat but he has size So what youre saying is: Bradshaw, Holmes, Rice, Miller, Dahl, Asomugha, Grimes, Lawson, Barnes, Joseph....
The USFL? Is Devine also planning on turning a Delorean into a time machine and going back to the mid 80's? (Just yankin' yer chain. I know you meant the UFL.)
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/05/01/highest-ranked-players-who-went-undrafted Good time to bump this thread to give folks a chance to review the names and maybe pick some out that they believe will be good bets to be signed by us. PFW likes Jeron Johnson, for me the name does not ring any bells. Guys I'd like Mark Schliechel, I shall never spell his name correctly.. Chad Spann Andre Smith like his tool set, they like picking up Te's with athleticism as UDFA's/PS poaches Zac Hurd UConn, they have a soft spot for Northeastern College based players Tim Barnes, though their usual pattern is to draft a G and make them a Center Alex Albright DE/OLB nice size from Boston College I'd like a UDFA Qb from a pass happy offense with nice mobility, wouldn't mind looking at Josh Portis. CK makes a great point that there will be a 90 man roster heading into Training Camp, we have maybe 68 guys under contract, 22 players to be added
Everyone seems to really love Chad Spann. I've never seen what they all see. I like DuJuan Harris and Brandon Saine a lot. You snag those two and I'm good, can bring anyone else in you feel like. DuJuan especially could be a real find. I forgot about DeAndre McDaniel. I take it his injury issues are severe though.
There is a Rb from Romo's alma mater, something like Northern Illinois State whose name escapes me atm And the Auburn Rb Fannin? I think what they will look for is someone who can do the things Cobbs can do, but offer more playmaking ability, ST/Rb/WC player/good hands etc. DraftCountdown Top 50: Weslye Saunders is also interesting, immature of course, but the sort of Te they look for on the cheap.
Weslye Saunders is not just immature, he's a dumbass. I still can't figure out why Ian Williams went undrafted. Great person and I thought a solid player.
Just an FYI guys....I really like Herzlich, great story, and the kid has a motor, he would do well on ST........ http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/05/01/highest-ranked-players-who-went-undrafted
Derrick Locke. He has 4.4 speed. He is small, but if he can do at least what Sproles did, he's a cheap addition.
Jarred Fayson's an interesting guy to look at. Pretty savvy player, not about to fault him (too much) for underperforming statistically with Juice Williams or a young Nate Scheelhaase at QB. I know Zook likes him. Ran a 4.38 at his Pro Day, 39 inch vertical, 10'8" broad jump, 21 bench reps. This at 6'0" and 207 lbs. Physical specimen. Zook and Ireland have a relationship and I thought I heard about some interest in Fayson. I think he could get brought in for a look and it'll be interesting to see how he performs in camp and preseason, if he's kept around on the practice squad for a little bit. Another RB I like is the guy from FAMU, Philip Sylvester. But I think DuJuan Harris is the best of the bunch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONjlTAaT40s
I don't know if that video for DuJuan "Foxx" Harris has the Eastham Energy All Star highlights. This one does. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgcnEqaJCAM Productive player, all the athleticism you could want running a 4.38 and having good vertical and broad jump, 29 bench reps shows the guy is a gym rat (if his physique didn't already), short guy like 5'8" and 200 lbs, squatty. Watch him play in the Eastham Energy All Star game, you don't have to go beyond that if you don't want to. He's elusive, agile, plants and drives up the field, and best of all he has that natural feel for using his blockers. Two touchdowns in the All Star game. To me I watch DuJuan in college and I think it's more impressive than watching Kory Sheets in college. So why not bring him in? Starting at 8:40 in this video, that ain't UAB he's breaking off big runs against. Those are Florida Gator defenders tackles he's breaking and outrunning. Then at 14:06 against the LSU Tigers. Then at 19:22 against the Arkansas Razorbacks. Then at 19:42 against the Ohio State Buckeyes. Saw him break at least two Orie Lemon tackles against Oklahoma State in that video. Career stats against Oklahoma State (x2), South Carolina, Ohio (Bowl), Florida, Arkansas, Central Michigan (Bowl), Ohio State, LSU, Southern Miss (Bowl), Georgia and the Eastham Energy All Star Game: 153 runs, 626 rush yards, 5 rush TDs, 33 catches, 260 rec yards, 2 rec TDs. I watched the "highlight" of that Troy offense against South Carolina. They're awful. Getting anything done in those games is a testament to Harris, IMO Huge game in the GMAC Bowl against Central Michigan. I think that's where I first noticed him, looking at Dan LeFevour.
Devine > Harris. Better stats against stronger competition. Just my personal opinion. I like Harris though. POTENTIALLY a better fit in the NFL because he is bigger. Talent wise, however, I'd go with Devine.
I wouldn't mind bringing in Kendric Burney. Being from N. Carolina, I was able to watch him play. A little on the slow side, yes. Smallish for sure. But generally plays the ball well. Has decent instincts and doesn't get fooled much. Slid a bit from his junior to senior season, but he'd be worth a look. A dime corner/ special teams guy. Likely wouldn't make the cut, but worth a look.
I suspect he is a priority UDFA and goes somewhere he thinks he can start like Detroit or Texas. Good prospect though.
Kendric Burney wouldn't fit our system at all IMO. A little on the slow side doesn't describe him well. He's a 4.7 or 4.8 guy. That's his speed. There are QBs that can outrun him. He's physical, and quick, but the bottom line is he needs to be covered with safety help. You may, stress the word "may" be able to salvage him for a nickel/slot CB role because he's physical and instinctive enough and those corners are always covered by safeties, but whenever I scrutinized his play closely at Carolina, the more closely I scrutinized the more glaring his deficiencies became. And I'd take DuJuan Harris over Noel Devine. Bigger, stronger, faster, better instincts for following his blockers, more plant and explode natural tailback rhythm, great pad level, shows something catching the ball too.
We have Brandon Marshall and Davonne Bess who are good, talented players. Hartline is still a project who may never develop into a reliable option. And then what do we have behind them? Julius Pruitt, Marlon Moore and Roberto Wallace don't exactly inspire confidence and as much hype as Edmund Gates seems to be getting around these forums he's still a rookie 4th round draft pick. There's certainly room to bring in more guys to compete at that position.
I like our first four WRs so I wouldn't be looking for a WR other than a project type we thought was more promising than Moore, Wallace or Pruitt.
Just because you like a group as it currently stands doesn't mean you stop looking for ways to improve it.
I have a higher opinion of them then you do and I don't find that bringing in a higher priced option for a #2 WR is a cost effective way to improve the offense.
That isn't much different than most teams in the NFL, including the good teams. Do you think that a lot of teams have like 6 high caliber receivers? ...and the hype Gates has been getting around here is, obviously, all speculation at this point, but it's certainly not all blind belief for s--ts and giggles. There's a lot to be excited about with him. I had him in my mock way early on. He's the type of receiver we need. He's very fast and has really good hands. He would make a great compliment to our receiving group. Obviously, nothing is proven at this point, but the potential is there and you talk about him being just a forth round pick, but then are talking about guys whom were not drafted. We can't load up on every position and we have more pressing needs at other positions. I think we have a good set of WRs. I would love to load up at every position, but that's not possible.
Please don't put words in my mouth. When did I say bring in a higher priced option for a #2 WR? We're talking about an UDFA here. He wont be higher priced and if he turns out to be a #2 option then we would have hit gold yet again. I'm talking about bringing in a guy to compete with Pruitt, Moore, Wallace and Gates for the #4/#5 WR position. And maybe, just maybe, if we have people competing for the #4 and #5 slot it will push Hartline to become a better player to keep his #3 spot which he's only in by default IMHO.
He's certainly not faster than Devine, and he looks more like a Nic Grigsby style runner (which is fine). But, dude, Devine can cut on a dime without losing any momentum (reminds me of Dante Hall). In his case, I don't get all the size comparisons. He's an injury risk, for sure, but who isn't? He's cheap as hell and has an extremely rare skillset. I can't believe he went undrafted. Shanahan will probably pick him up and turn him into a 1,000 yd rusher...
So let me get this straight, there's an entire thread predicated upon the premise that we need to go out and sign Sidney Rice in free agency, and everyone seems to be on board with that idea. I float the idea that we need to sign Torey Gurley, an UDFA, to compete with the bottom of the depth chart guys at WR and get replies saying "we can't afford it" and "we can't just stock up on one position while ignoring other pressing needs." As long as I live I'll never understand people on internet message boards.
Jeff Maehl isn't top 50 but Dane Sanzenbacher is?? Looks like some pro Big Ten bias to me. I'd be fine with a UDFA signing of either, but Maehl is every bit as good and deserves to be at least as high on that list.
