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Why is the safety weakness still on the back burner?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Vinny Fins, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    I see the needs of QB and RB being discussed for good reason, but what about our other safety spot?

    That was our Achilles heel last year.

    How do we remedy that?
     
  2. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I didn't think it was a huge issue but I think the reason its put on the backburner, per se, is because there is young talent there still waiting to develop. Chris Clemons is young and Rashad Jones is still young and developing. Yeremiah Bell was not very good to start the year but got better.
     
  3. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    How so? I though they played pretty well. Clemons especially, exceeded my expectations.
     
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  4. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It isn't that big of a weakness, and given that free agency hasn't started yet there isn't a lot of hard proof they aren't.
     
  5. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I was pounding the table for Earl Thomas a year ago and still see passing on him (trading down) as a mistake, but I don't think we're horrid at S. I think we lack play makers, but have an okay guy in Clemons and developmental potential in Jones and Amaya. I could see them making a run at the Raven's S, but he's not really a play maker type.
     
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  6. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Because I think Chis clemons played as well as I thought he did, and RJ flashed ability in limited reps..
     
  7. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    I disagree that it was a big weakness...

    I'm pretty comfortable with our Safety position...
     
  8. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    I'm not sure where the idea of S being a weakness comes from. Is it because we have two young guys to develop and no big name.
    Why are fans against grooming young players?
     
  9. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    It requires patience. Lord knows fans (of any kind really) don't have patience.
     
  10. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    They gotta be Pro Bowlers by the end of their 2nd season or risk being called a bust. LOL.
     
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  11. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    I see no weakness @ safety. what I see is potential & competition. the DB will collectively step up in 2011.
     
  12. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    If I were to guess, my guess would be that Jones develops into Bell's replacement. I could see Bell being a salary cap casualty next season unless he plays lights out this year. I've always felt that Jones was a better SS prospect. I think he's to aggressive towards the line to function as a last line of defense type. Now Amaya is guy who I think plays like a FS. I think he shows some nice natural instincts for the ball. Obviously he's a bit of a long shot, but Amaya has flashed potential a few times for me.
     
  13. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    That is quite a turnaround from last year 23. You said daily how Clemons wouldn't cut it. He got his shot and look he played fairly well.
    Another sign of fans who don't have faith in a young players chance for development.
    You were wrong man.
     
  14. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    sure you talk about last year, maybe you mean the year before ?
     
  15. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    Not one "spot" alone, but yeah, I'm worried about the lack of plays generated in the defensive backfield. 11 interceptions just don't cut it. I'm aware we had a severe case of the dropsies, but that's got to improve significantly or we'll have to add someone who can actually come up with big plays back there. I don't have a problem with any specific player, but the unit in general might be an issue if they can't find a way to generate more plays.
     
  16. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I have very high hopes for our defense this year. I actually thought our defense was playing better than the Jets at season's end. The only spots I'm concerned about are SOLB and FS. I think Misi is okay but might not be capable of ever providing enough pass rush opposite Wake. With FS it's not so much that I think we're weak there, but rather that I see it as arguably the most impactful position on the defense (along with pass rusher). I think that if we found a great play making FS we could take this defense to great.
     
  17. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    Aye, but sometimes a unit just doesn't work together very well, even if the individual players are doing solid. Our front 7 did a pretty decent job at pressuring the QB, so at some point you have to ask why that didn't translate into interceptions at all. There might not be one individual spot where I'd say "we HAVE to replace this dude" (well, actually there is, as Crowder drives me silly), but if we can't generate turnovers in the backfield in 2011 either, then you have to think about replacing someone there.
     
  18. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    Yeah, that's my line of thinking as well. Clemons doesn't necessarily suck, but we're leaving a bunch of big plays on the field unless we find a guy that can actually make them consistently - or unless Clemons develops into that guy.
     
  19. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I don't know that Clemons is likely to develop into a play maker simply b/c he was never one in college. If you look at guys like Sean smith and Vontae Davis you know these guys showed ball skills in college and in Smith's case in the preseason as well so you can look at a year of drops as a likely aberration. But Clemons has never shown that ability. So I think that if we do find a play maker a S it is likely to be a different player.
     
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  20. Brewhead1000

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    Also agree. Chris Clemons is good and can possibly be way better... Still wouldnt mind a Eric Weddle to solidify the position. Although this has backfired with Gibril Wilson... eh
     
  21. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    We weren't awful at safety but I do think it is an area where plenty of improvement can be made.
     
  22. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    Neither do I. I merely stated it as one out of two possibilities. Reshad Jones might be the guy that develops into a play maker, but I see him as an SS. Still, works well for Pittsburgh.
     
  23. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    I see no weakness @ safety. what I see is potential & competition. Clemons & Jones have progressed nicely & with the return of Allen there is a possibility of Smith or Carroll moving over to add depth & competition @ the position. the DB will collectively step up in 2011. our young defensive backfield comes into the season with needed experience & with the return of Will Allen. building on last year's experience & through competition, our DB will prevail in 2011
     
  24. brparkway

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    The one unqualified success of this regime is rebuilding the defense, primarily with youth. This D's biggest weakness is generating turnovers, especially picks. Let's hope these young guys can develop those skills, otherwise we need to find a ballhawk for the D. backfield.
     
  25. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Priorities and finite money.

    We spend, last I checked, over 20% of our cap number on the Oline. And we may be considering adding Leonard Davis to that.

    Can't spend everywhere.

    Thus, Clemons and Rashad Jones are the future.

    (tbh I think Clemons is developing decently)
     

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