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ILB Nick Barnett

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by ckparrothead, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    What the hell, we're in the first day of lockout-enhanced free agency. I'll do it. I'll start a thread about a guy from another team that got cut and give the old "I think he's good we should sign him wut u think?" line.

    I've said before, I'm not one to under-sell Channing Crowder. I think he means more to this defense than people realize. He's really smart, studies, and he helps his teammates know where to be and why both off the field and on the field.

    But he's not great, and I just have this belief that when you get better at his spot, his role...your defense gets a lot better period.

    I feel like Nick Barnett has been great in the past. He and Channing Crowder are both injury prone. Maybe two injury prone guys equals one stable defense? I know that when Crowder's stability wasn't there in Weeks 1 thru 4 this year, the defense suffered for it.

    I just really like Nick Barnett as a player and I think it wouldn't hurt to get him into camp with Channing and Karlos and see what he could bring to the table. With his injury issues, I'm not sure how much interest he'll get.

    Just a thought.
     
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  2. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I'd love to see Barnett paired with Dansby. If we sign him, I'll run around the block naked and singing the Dolphins fight song. :)
     
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  3. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Miami has a fight song......not that Buffett vomit one?

    Miami Dolphins.....Miami Dolphins......Miami Dolphinsssssssssssss NUMBER ONE!!!!
     
  4. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Damn Barnett got cut. I would love to sign him! He would give us some flexibility at the LB position as well. Being able to move Dansby all over the field would make us better.
     
  5. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    That's a little surprising. I'd definately look at Barnett.
     
  6. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Rumour is you do that anyways ;) I do ....!
     
  7. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    I'll second that. Of course, that's mainly because I just like to get naked and run around the block singing the Dolphins fight song, but that's another story. :shifty:
     
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  8. PhinsPhan23

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    I like Barnett as well, I just seem to think he will get a fairly decent contract in FA and I'm wondering if that is where we want to spend our money. Especially for a guy that won't be on the field all 3 downs.
     
  9. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    I do like Barnett. However, with his age and injury history, I'd still prefer D'Qwell Jackson, who only has the injury history and had two outstanding seasons in Cleveland before he got hurt. If I were to take an injury risk at ILB, I'd take Jackson, but I wouldn't mind a Barnett signing at all.
     
  10. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Lb I'd like to see brought in is Chris Wilson De/Olb from the redskins, he wears a lot of hats, is good at 3 jobs, and makes nice depth.
     
  11. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Haven't there been rumblings though that Jacksons' injuries were so severe that basically he's 'done'?

    It's one thing if you're having trouble making it through a season without taking some kind of injury, like Crowder or like Ronnie Brown, or Nick Barnett in this. It's another thing if you haven't played in a year and a half because of a severe injury that promises to continue giving you problems. Maybe I'm wrong though I don't know the details of D'Qwells injury.
     
  12. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    As far as I know, he has managed to tear both pectorals, one after the other, but I haven't heard anything about him being 'done'. I'll ask my Cleveland 'insider'.
     
  13. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    To be honest....Ive been thinking we should really think hard about making our defense lights out. For one....I think the lockout is going to cause some offenses to be behind at the beginning of the season.

    Heres what I would like to know CK...what kind of LB is Barnett in coverage? That first game is gonna be huge for us....we have to win that game to have a good chance at winning the division. NE is gonna be running out there with some dynamic TE weapons.....
     
  14. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Am I familiar with this 'insider'? If so, tell him hello. :)
     
  15. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    No, that's just the 'middle man' but I'll tell him hello anyway :)
     
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  16. Boik14

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    Id like Barnett. Its a talent acquisition business and hes talented. Having him would also allow us to use Dansby at OLB if we choose to utilize Dansby's rush skills. Barnett is a good player when hes on the field so why not...
     
  17. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think adding an every down ILB to pair with Dansby would be one of the more logical avenues to improve the defense. Crowder is good at his job, but I think teams have and continue to catch us because of the need to sub him or Dobbins or Ayodele out over the past three years.

    That being said my favorite option is Chris Gocong. He reminds me of Levon Kirkland, he's a 265 pound interior linebacker who is good enough in coverage to not be pulled in nickel and dime packages.
     
  18. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    Gocong would be nice, i wonder how much it would cost to get us kamerion wimbley from the raiders, i always liked him


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  19. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    And play him where? I like Wimbley (though I suspect he'll get overpaid after his stint with the Raiders, quite possibly by the Raiders themselves), but he's strictly an OLB/DE, not an ILB.
     
  20. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Barnett would be an upgrade, and there is another man out there dangling in free agency, Takeo Spikes is available and wants to win, really bad.
     
  21. alen1

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    Eagles going to let Stewart Bradley walk per reports.
     
  22. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    sure he is an OLB but we lack some depth there, but wimbley is probably not a backup, hence would play for backup money, well find out soon how good ireland is at improvising when players who were not available suddenly are


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  23. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    I've been told that D'Qwell Jackson is healthy and ready to go.
     
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  24. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He was franchised, I believe, so it doesn't really matter.

    It's possible he could be. He's a 4-3 SOLB now, and does way more in coverage than pretty much any 3-4 OLB. He's generally playing an on-the-line technique, so he might not have the pursuit skills to be more than a 2-down player, but he's further along the line than a lot of former DE's ever got who made the switch.
     
  25. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    Does Barnett play the same role in a 3-4 that Crowder does? Totally agree that when Crowder is out of the lineup the defense drops off a little but he hasn't played a whole season since i can remember.
     
  26. rdhstlr23

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    If it's that long, then it might reach the length of Brian Urlacher's medical bill. That analogy was enough. He's just as injured as anyone.
     
  27. Clipse

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    That's nice and all, but Jackson isn't a FA. He signed a 1 year deal with the Browns in March

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/3/3/2028487/dqwell-jackson-signs-cleveland-browns-one-year-contract
     
  28. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    I'd like Barrett for the right price. A few other ILB options I like are Paul Posluszny, Stephen Tulloch, and Barrett Ruud. Not sure I'd spend too much on any though. Next years draft looks very good for ILB's.
     
  29. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    I was going by the FA lists posted here and elsewhere. If they're wrong, they're wrong.
     
  30. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Well, there goes the D'Qwell Jackson option, lol.

    Stewart Bradley or Nick Barnett would be nice though.

    And for the record Barnett is gone from Green Bay because Desmond Bishop is awesome. He replaced Barnett when Nick got hurt and I watched him play, that demon was all over the place, making plays in all phases, and he's young and (right now) cheap.
     
  31. alen1

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    I remember Bishop in college. Guy was an animal there too. I was a big fan of his.
     
  32. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    That's the way the elite teams manage their rosters ... love to get there one day .... soon .
     
  33. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Letting Nick Barnett go after rewarding AJ f'in Hawk with a big contract doesn't strike me as a great example of elite roster management.
     
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  34. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    I want to win really bad too. But I don't have any business on that team either.

    Seriously, why would we want an aging guy like that? I think he'll stay in SF anyways.
     
  35. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I'd still rather have Barnett. I just think he is the better player and before his wrist injury last season, has been pretty durable.
     
  36. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Super Bowl champs , and they aren't an elite team in managing their roster overall? Must not be if you declare it so.
     
  37. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Winning the Super Bowl doesn't mean every roster move past, present, or future is justified or even good.

    AJ Hawk is a guy that the Packers current coaching staff doesn't seem to know what the hell to do with. He was a 2-down ILB replacing by Brandon Chillar in the Nickel package in 2009 because they said he was a liability in coverage, then they started specifically subbing him in for Nickel packages. He's not particularly good at anything, either.
     
  38. djphinfan

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    my bad, some reason I thought he was 31, shows you how desperate I am for an inside linebacker, when the offseason began my two favorites that I wanted to target were Chad Greenway and Dqwell Jackson..so much for that..Ive been trying to replace Crowder for a long time.
     
  39. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Same here. It's not as easy lol.
     

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