Per Jim Trotter, the Cardinals are sending CB Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, a second round pick and a contract worth at least $30 million guaranteed. To quote Trotter, "I'd rather have Orton." My hope is that Denver and/or Kyle Orton aren't subscribing to this insanity. I hope cooler heads prevail. I hope things don't hit a snag and everyone remembers that the Cardinals are ridiculous and Andy Reid tends to get the better of these kinds of things. Man o' man!
I very much would like to see Orton in Miami, a 5 yr 25 million and 5 million dollar bonus and a #2 is about in line with what a lower tiered Starting Qb would pull down...but to throw in DRC as well? That would be like us tossing in Vontae Davis, and that is just crazy talk.
I wish The Dolphins were on the laughing end... because the eagles are going to be the only ones laughing all the way to the bank.
Kolb has a horseshoe up his ***. How much in guaranteed money has he gotten now off 3 contracts. Rediculous.
well, lets wait for the orton compensation.....we´ll see maybe eagles and broncos officials have a little laugh together
Lost a ton of value in giving up DRC in that deal, the Eagles rooked them, Cards have to keep Fitz happy but that does not work very often. Eagles won in 3 ways: -#2 pick that figures to be Top 45 -Cleared Kolb's 3-4 million off of the books -Got a young highly talented, proven, starting Cb
His market just left town, he is the last Qb standing in the game of musical chairs. Adding Vince Young to the mix means he has even less of a market, watch Young wind up in Philly with the money they would have paid Kolb if he stayed.
Good. I'm glad this deal went down if for no other reason than it means Denver can't extort us for Orton: the other bidders in the Orton sweepstakes have all obtained alternatives. Seattle signed Tarvaris Jackson and Sidney Rice, Arizona is trading for Kolb, and the Titans signed Hasselbeck. I don't want Kyle Orton at all, but at least we don't have to give up even higher compensation for him now.
More Trotter. http://twitter.com/#!/SI_JimTrotter/status/96381193154596864 Sounds like his agents got exactly what they wanted, meaning they accurately forecast the market. Maybe it's the rest of us who are crazy.
Just gotta hope Snyder is in love with VY and doesn't step in. Cannot buy they will go into a season with Beck and Grossman.
Are you kidding? Orton has thrown close to twice as many TD than Int for two straight years. But more importantly, has improved his play every year he’s been in the league. Ireland is after this guy because Orton is the best available QB this year. He may not have the upside some of the draft picks have, but should easily outperform them for the next few years.
So, who do you think will have a better season, assuming things go according to plan? Kolb in Arizona or Orton in Miami? Orton should end up with more wins, but Kolb may have more TDs in that offense. If we can have our 3 headed RBC with D Thomas, Bradshaw and Ronnie? with an improved Oline, Orton gives us 9-10 wins.
Well, they are losing Breaston as well, and Wiz is supposed to be moving to more of a run oriented offense. Toss up, except the Cards play in such a weak division so Kolb will do quite well I'd think. Their SB team is just about dismantled at this point though.
I fail to see what some see in Kolb as a franchise quarterback. He's nothing more than a checkdown machine. He's much worse than Henne, IMO.
I agree totally. Henne has done more in this league than Kolb has. With the latter it's all about potential. If it were based on production, Henne should bring more in a trade than Kolb will.
I'm not as down on Kolb as everyone else. People are saying how this is franchise/career suicide for those involved in Arizona. What about Philly? I mean we talked about their "window" closing a couple years ago. This rejuvenated that secondary, frees up some cash flow, and gets an extra pick. As bad as the Cardinals may look, Andy Reid and those guys did a great job maneuvering this deal. Why get Asmougha, when you bring in DRC cheaper, younger, and with no financial burden?
Peyton Manning is the best available quarterback this year. They see Kolb's two games off the bench in 2009 where he was pretty good and ignore his 2010.
Kolb is going to be the next ...... A.J. Feeley, imo. Another steal. So, yeah, of course Philly takes this! Ridiculous the interest in this guy. As to Orton, I used to despise him at Chicago. But, before trade talk with Miami heated up I warmed up to him. He has simply learned to play the position pretty effectively. He may not be quite as smart as Chad Pennington, but he's growing in that direction and he has a better arm than Penny (maybe not quite as accurate - but more accurate than Henne). If I'm Miami - you have to think they want him to be the starter. I think he deserves $8-10 Mil. that's basically starter money. Maybe some incentives. If the have to slash a veteran (i.e., Channing Crowder) - do it. I would not be trading high picks, however. I'd go with a 4th and maybe a conditional pick for the following year. Or a conditional fourth that could go up based on incentives. Greg Cosell is a pretty fair observer (working for NFL Films). His tweet observations on Orton: At this point, no one else is really in the market for Orton. Denver doesn't want to pay him. And, I think it will be tough to bring him back. So, they really need to push to make a deal. That helps us.
gave up everything but the kitchen sink, and whats the point in having the sink if you have nothing to clean
