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Tribute to Channing Crowder

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by AdamC13, Aug 9, 2011.

  1. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Well-Known Member

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  2. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Low :pity:

    He put heart in. Wasn't the best, but gave what he had. Retired as a Phin with offers out there.
     
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  3. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Well-Known Member

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    I am not a Crowder hater. I do appreciate his service. Crowder may have been slow but he made up for it by not creating turnovers.
     
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  4. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    He can thank Wake for that INT.
     
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  5. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, FWIW I liked Crowder the player, to me he was good at what he did, defending the run, thought he also was the lone bright spot on a very very bland Dolphins squad, and had been so for yrs.

    If he really is done, then I'm also glad he got out of the game while he still had his health, if anyone cares to read about his Father, Randy Crowder, that did not end so lovely.
     
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  6. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Crowder may be back in a Dolphins uniform sometime.
    Don't count it out.
     
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  7. DHPVW

    DHPVW DuB addict

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    wow....that's pretty ridiculous. Channing was a great value to our defense was often overlooked because he wasn't a flashy "big play" LB. imo he was a shut down run defender and might have been a bit a liability in coverage but provided a lot of intelligence and leadership for our team. these kinds of posts show me how unappreciative our fans can be at times.

    I loved his energy and leadership over the years and think there is a lot to be said on what kind of person he is to have gone out on his own terms and retired a lifetime Dolphins player. I find it hard to believe that he couldn't have gone to another team and continued to play at a high level but he choose to retire a Dolphin :up:
     
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  8. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Good Bye and Good Luck Channing....
     
  9. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    I just cannot understand this obsession with marginalizing and denigrating a player ad nauseum.

    It's not just this thread. It's also every condescending member of the local media.

    He wasn't a superstar. We get it.
     
  10. MarinePhinFan

    MarinePhinFan Banned

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    Ignorance. It's the ignorant fan that bashes Crowder. He was a long-time, hard playing, hard working, and faithful Dolphin. Just because the guy wasn't Mike Singletary or Ray Lewis (who is though?) doesn't mean he sucked. Sure, he had his faults, but overall the guy was solid.

    Good luck Channing!
     
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  11. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Wish we would bring him back as a backup. Wonder how he would do on STs.....
     
  12. MarinePhinFan

    MarinePhinFan Banned

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    I bet he'd do great. I don't understand why we just let him go though. It doesn't make sense...
     
  13. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    I find it hard to believe he played at a high level
    mediocre at best
     
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    I agree completely. You can't simply expect to have a team of highlight reel players who are all sack and interception merchants. You need a couple of guys in the engine room doing all the ugly work and he did that very well.
     
  15. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    he was a true dolphin & consistently gave everything ounce of his ability to the team. best of luck to Channing in future endeavors
     
  16. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I'd guess it is because all your backup LBs need to play on the punt and kickoff teams. All the way back to his rookie year I cannot recall CC playing STs, though he may have and I just forgot. I'd guess we make an exception for JT, but the other 3-4 backups will probably need to help on specials due to numbers.
     
  17. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    More "if you disagree with me, you are stupid and uninformed" attitude.
     
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  18. MarinePhinFan

    MarinePhinFan Banned

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    Why do you think that?

    The guy was drafted in the 3rd round and was a starting LB for the Dolphins from the get go. If you try to compare him to the greatest LB'ers of all time, yes, he's mediocre. However, Crowder played at a high level for his entire career sans when he was injured. Yes, he had weaknesses. However, overall he was a solid part of the defense. He was part of a top 15 defense 4 out of his 6 seasons. If he didn't play at a high level he wouldn't have started for those "D's".
     
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  19. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Who would he have taken snaps over though? Edds? They are pretty different players. If Crowder would have stayed, he would have just cut into Burnett's snaps.

    I think Crowder was great at the role he was in. But I just think the role he was in is no longer needed on this team.
     
  20. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Why would he take snaps from Burnett? Burnett is the better player, he would be on the field unless he was tired or injured. And he could take Austin Spitlers spot if CC could play some STs. Which, with his motor, I assume he should be able to.
     
  21. Stringer Bell

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    Burnett is better at a lot of things. But there are things that Crowder can do better than Burnett. I don't think he should have cut into his snaps though, which is why I'm not upset at him being released.

    Spitler is really more a coverage LB, which it seems to be what we are looking for at this point. Crowder certainly isn't a coverage guy.
     
  22. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    we have a coverage guy ahead of Spitler in Edds. The only reason Spitler is on the roster is for STs. What kind of LB he is has no bearing on CC.
     
  23. MarinePhinFan

    MarinePhinFan Banned

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    It's one thing when a person disagrees with me and is able to give a good reason as to why. However, when people disagree with me without being able to give an educated, well thought out reason as to why they disagree I will call them ignorant.

    Channing Crowder wasn't the best at anything. Although, he was very good at stopping the run. He's a very smart and athletic guy who played his heart out for the Dolphins. He was usually always around the ball and would give up his body in order to make the stop. Any Dolphin's fan...hell any football fan...who just spouts off "He sucks" or "Good riddance" are ignorant and don't realize the help he provided to the Dolphin's defense over the last 6 seasons. As I wrote before, he was the starting LB for 4 seasons on a defense ranked 15th or better each of those seasons. He didn't "suck".
     
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  24. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Oh please. When people give their rationale, you just write it off as not well-reasoned and then go right for the personal attack. Its not very helpful to the debate.
     
  25. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    For the record, most people around here who provide "rationale" aren't well-reasoned.

    And you do realize the irony of the personal attack against him when he just provided a well reasoned rational explanation, right? Right?
     
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  26. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Crowder lacked structure and improvised way too much. Tony knew it and he tried to change it but it didn't happen. I would figure Nolan gets here and has seen enough. As for Crowder being a good athlete that was easy to see. Never argued that at all. He had a big motor but lacked awareness. Zero big plays in six years tells it all.
     
  27. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    His agent shopped him for three weeks. He couldn't get a sniff. That tells you all you need to know about his "retirement".

    This must be the silliest post ever. He was drafted in the 3rd round and part of a good D. Really? Homerism is alive and well.
     
  28. Stringer Bell

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    OK, so Spitler isn't going to take any snaps at ILB. My point still remains, that whomever is taking Crowder's snaps is better than him in coverage.
     
  29. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Well-Known Member

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    In Crowder's defense there is not a TE in the league that he couldn't stay within 5-10 yards of all the way to the end zone.
     
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  30. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    BOOOOO!!! This is the 3rd time you've posted this. If you're going to continue to ignorantly insult the guy please come up with original stuff. Preferably something that's funny at least the first time.
     
  31. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry you take this so personally.

    Perhaps your playing career consisted of being a slow ILB that couldn't keep up with TE's?
     
  32. SeanP

    SeanP Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Regardless of what you think of Channing as a football player, that man bled for this team. He was a Dolphin to the core, and that's all that matters to me. He may have popped his mouth off in the media a lot, but from all accounts he was a great teammate and guy to work with.

    Thanks for your service CC, enjoy your retirement.
     
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  33. MikeHoncho

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    While he wasn't Zach Thomas, he was a guy who could play the middle linebacker position in the NFL; so there's that.
     
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  34. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    My playing career consisted of being a decent LT that suffered a neck injury in 11th grade and could never play again. That's not the point. The point is, come up with original material.
     
  35. mommabilly

    mommabilly No riders allowed

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    I think he will be back.
     
  36. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Well-Known Member

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    :lol: ... It seems really weird to me that someone would actually keep track of how many times I have made a comment in previous posts in different threads dating back to who knows when. It never occurred to me I had to be original with every post because someone was counting. Honestly, I didn't even know I had posted that twice before. I am honored you would keep track, I guess. I see originality is important to you. Wonder if you count the number of times everybody posts a comment. I really didn't know there was a limit of two!! Thank you for clearing that up. I assume you have made 1,616 original posts at this point?

    OCD? Obsessive Count Disorder...may want to get that checked out. Just a thought.

    P.S. I am sorry if any of the material within this post is not original.

    Note to self: Send potential posts to Trowa to check for originality and humor before actually posting...:up:
     
  37. PhinsRock

    PhinsRock Premium Member Luxury Box

    Channing Crowder gave us the best that he had, whether it was good enough for some of us is irrelevant. I liked him as an individual, his humor, and his work ethic. He learned from Zach Thomas and carried that work ethic on after Zach left. Channing may not have had the physical skills of a Zach or Jason, but he has the heart.

    Wish him the best and thank you Channing, for all you gave to this team. Why people hate on a guy who gave our team the best he had, I cannot understand and ask: "would you have played better? Worked harder?" No? then STFU
     
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  38. MarinePhinFan

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    Well, let's see what was so "silly" about my post.

    Crowder was drafted in the 3rd round. You think that's silly? Why? Do you think he was drafted in a different round?

    And what is your definition of a "good" defense? I'll explain my definition of one.

    There are 32 NFL teams. I would say that there are 4 levels of defense. Poor, Average, Good, Great

    I think a top 8 defense is "great".

    I think a defense ranked 9th to 16th is "good".

    I think a defense ranked 17th to 24th as "average".

    I think a defense ranked 25th to 32nd as "poor".

    Granted someone may differ in what they feel is a "great" defense et al. However, Channing played on 4 defenses that ranked 15th, 5th, 9th, and 14th. I would argue that a defense with these rankings would be considered good...with the 5th ranking falling into the great and the 9th ranking coming very close.

    You call facts and objective rankings "homerism"?

    So, who's silly now? ;)
     
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  39. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Yeah, a punt coverage and kickoff coverage LB and if Spitler wants to make the team he needs to excel in those roles.
     
  40. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    If Karlos or Burnett suffered a long term injury, it would not surprise me to see CC return.
     

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