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My Second ever team won "Best Draft".... then the commish changed point settings....

Discussion in 'Fantasy Football' started by ToddsPhins, Sep 5, 2011.

  1. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    AFTER the draft.


    Originally, it was an IDP league with return yards. 12 Teams.
    22 total starting spots including 2 starting QBs.

    Return yards, 10 per point.
    Passing yards, 10 per point.
    All TDs are 6.

    Then, after the draft, the commish added 0.5 PPR........ AND 0.5 per completion.
    DEF was also adjusted somehow (in a way that hurts me).


    Now the commish is asking the league if he can do away with return yards. Total BS.
    Is it normal to change the point settings around after the draft occurs? Seems to lack integrity IMO.

    Here's my team and each player's projected totals (as it sits now w/o returns removed):

    QB- Rivers.............. 764
    QB- Ryan................ 682
    WR- Dez................. 202
    WR- Harvin............. 252
    WR- Hester............. 314
    RB- Turner.............. 225
    RB- R Bush............. 224
    TE- Z Miller............. 165
    W/T- Amendola....... 132 (this doesn't account for him returning punts/kicks)
    W/R- Fred Jackson.. 160
    BN- Antonio Brown.. 185
    BN- CJ Spiller......... 195
    BN- Pettigrew......... 105
    BN- Ginn................ 221
    BN- Deji Karim........ 219
    BN- Andy Dalton..... 400

    K- Carpenter............. 274
    DEF- Zona................ 220 (playing Carolina week 1).
    DL- Calais Campbell.. 130
    DT- Lamarr Houston.. 106
    DE- Peppers............. 160
    DE- Jared Allen......... 170
    LB- Derrick Johnson... 257
    DB- Eric Berry........... 276
    CB- Joe Haden.......... 276
    CB- Leigh Bodden...... 255
    S- Pat Chung............ 197
    S- Tvon Branch......... 248
    BN- Pat Peterson....... 204




    I could be going from first to worst w/o a game even playing. :lol:
    Can you write Yahoo and delete your team from a league for shenanigans like this?
     
  2. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    No, it's not normal to change settings after the draft. Your commissioner is at best abusing his power, and at worst is attempting to manipulate the settings to better fit his team because he doesn't like his draft.

    You should strongly consider quitting that league.
     
  3. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Yea, if it was a $ league I'd demand my money back for the scoring being changed after the draft.

    If it was a free league I still might quit, but I'd at the very least demand return to original scoring or a re-draft with the new settings.
     
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  4. ToddsPhins

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    Thanks, Des. Yeah, it has to suck when you set up a league and your draft is average at best. :lol:

    I spoke up against the return yards being removed, so now they're staying put..... although he kinda *****ed about it. Too bad. lol.
    Is it normal or overboard to add PPR, PPC, and change defensive points after a draft?



    I also said there should be points given per rush attempt to balance out the addition of PPR & PPC after the draft.
    IMO this is fair & appropriate for the teams who drafted RBs based on no ppr......... so he added in 0.25 per attempt.
    Now my team looks good again (at least according to my novice eye).


    Here's the adjusted point projections (offense).

    QB- Rivers.............. 772
    QB- Ryan................ 691
    WR- Dez................. 202
    WR- Harvin............. 258
    WR- Hester............. 314
    RB- Turner.............. 298
    RB- R Bush............. 282
    TE- Z Miller............. 165
    W/T- Amendola....... 132 (this doesn't account for him returning punts/kicks)
    W/R- Fred Jackson.. 216
    BN- Antonio Brown.. 185
    BN- CJ Spiller......... 220
    BN- Pettigrew......... 105
    BN- Ginn................ 221
    BN- Deji Karim........ 242
    BN- Andy Dalton..... 400


    Any suggestions who should start at W/R?
    Rafael mentioned something about sticking with players who are more consistent throughout the year, so I penciled in Jackson.

    I could've had Rivers, Brees, and Blount instead of Rivers, Ryan, Turner. Lesson learned. lol.
     
  5. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Changing scoring after a draft is not normal at all. It is frankly grounds for the entire league to dissolve IMO.
     
  6. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    This. Like I said, changing scoring after the draft is evidence of a commissioner abusing his power. You really should quit if he doesn't revert the changes. Even if he reverts, he's established himself as untrustworthy and quitting is still a desirable option, IMO.

    I'd kick myself out if I ever tried to pull that in Armchair GMs.
     
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  7. phinnhedd

    phinnhedd Reality.

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    I'd quit this one. Some prick you're playing with.
     
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  8. ToddsPhins

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    This is my toughest competition. Thoughts?

    QB- Rivers.............. 772 / Rodgers..... 933 / Schaub............. 752 / Vick.............. 784
    QB- Ryan................ 691 / Romo........ 774 / Garrard............ 562 / Stafford......... 668
    WR- Dez................. 202 / Marshall..... 179 / Bowe............... 160 / Ochocinco...... 153
    WR- Harvin............. 258 / P Crayton... 233 / Plaxico............. 123 / Knox............... 82
    WR- Hester............. 314 / Britt.......... 167 / D Branch.......... 122 / Jacoby Ford.... 263
    RB- M Turner.......... 298 / Hillis.......... 321 / Foster.............. 425 / Peterson........ 378
    RB- R Bush............. 282 / Hightower.. 211 / B Jacobs........... 183 / S Greene....... 138
    TE- Z Miller............. 165 / Gates........ 209 / Witten.............. 206 / V Davis......... 138
    W/T- Amendola...... 132 / Lee Evans... 130 / Hines Ward....... 146 / Crabtree....... 117
    W/R- Fred Jackson.. 216 / M Lynch..... 177 / Jahvid Best....... 175 / Cribbs........... 240
    BN- Antonio Brown.. 185 / S Moss....... 130 / P Manning......... 834 / E Manning..... 660
    BN- CJ Spiller......... 220 / J Starks...... 176 / Garcon............. 152 / Sam Bradford. 631
    BN- Pettigrew......... 105 / Burleson..... 145 / Addai............... 225 / Thom Jones... 111
    BN- Ginn................ 221 / Celek......... 109 / Torrain.............. 59 / Eric Weems.... 289
    BN- Deji Karim........ 242 / Ronnie B.....109 / Cooley............. 101 / Car Palmer......
    BN- Andy Dalton...... 400 / Alex Smith. 559 / A Armstrong...... 94 /
    BN........................................................ / DeM Murray....... 44 /


    K- Carpenter............. 274 / Tynes............ 282 / J Brown...... 285 / Akers............ 274
    DEF- Zona................ 220 / Pitt................ 302 / Dallas........ 191 / Eagles........... 241

    DL- Calais Campbell.. 130 / Justin Smith.... 171 / A Rubin...... 170 / .................
    DT- Lamarr Houston.. 106 / Antonio Garay. 128 / Ngata........ 125 / Kyle Williams.. 104
    DE- Peppers............. 160 / Aldon Smith.... 228 / Babin........ 108 /................
    DE- Jared Allen......... 170 / Mathis............ 132 / Abraham... 119 / Cole............... 175
    LB- Derrick Johnson... 257 / Willis............. 344 / Tulloch...... 172 / Mayo.............. 293
    DB- Eric Berry........... 276 / T.J. Ward....... 302 / D Hall........ 205 / Palamalu........ 189
    CB- Joe Haden.......... 276 / Woodson........ 233 / Tillman...... 252 / Cor Webster.... 192
    CB- Leigh Bodden...... 255 / B McFadden.... 176 / Tramon W.. 215 / Flowers.......... 233
    S- Pat Chung............ 197 / M Griffin......... 163 / Pollard....... 196 / D Whitner....... 261
    S- Tvon Branch......... 248 / Landry........... 223 / R Harper.... 221 / Dan McCrary.... 18
    BN- Pat Peterson....... 204 / R Lewis......... 264 / ...................... / Beason.......... 213


    A few things:

    1. The guy in the 2nd column has already adjusted his roster so that his entire starting team is starting against me in week 9.
    With Jared Allen & Harvin on the bench in week 9, right now I'm at a "projected" 356.29 (me) vs 377.69 (him). However, if we meet in the week 16 Championship, I'm at 395 projected vs his 361, so that temporarily looks good.


    2. I play the guy in the the 3rd column twice. Week 2 projected: me 392.96; him 308.42. Week 13: me 368.04; him 350.09.


    3. I'd like to weasel the column #2 guy into a trade for Brandon Marshall. I offered Ryan, Harvin, and Ginn for Romo & Marshall. (no answer so far)
    Since Harvin has a week 9 bye when I play him, I thought maybe Percy for Brandon straight up???? .......
    ......or perhaps bait him with Harvin & Tvon Branch for Marshall & TJ Ward to make it seem like I value Percy more than Brandon.


    4. Should I trade Hester for someone more "consistent"? (What about Ryan, Harvin, & Hester for Rodgers & Marshall?)


    5. If the rest of my season looks strong, should I strategically be looking for ways to improve my week 9 and playoffs even if it costs me a few points elsewhere?


    6. I think my bench is solid, so I'd like to do a combo trade using one of my starters to upgrade that starters position. Who's the weakest link?


    7. Do you guys think we'll see an increase in KO returns later in the season as the temperature drops? If so, is Hester worth keeping b/c of it?
     
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  9. ToddsPhins

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    Can the GM sabotage the league even after we're into the season? My team presently looks awesome, but I'd hate to put in a season long effort if it's possible for the league to fall to crap. Damn, and I was excited about my draft, too. grrrrrr.

    PS: the GM isn't one of the 2 teams I posted. He's a .500 team at best in my inexperienced opinion.
     
  10. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    League GM changed or added after the draft:
    1. Comp points set to '.5'
    2. Rec points set to '.5'
    3. return yards & KO/PR TDs removed from DEF/ST (I originally had Chicago).
    4. Rec Yds (Bonus 1) changed from '5 points at 85 yards' to '5 points at 100 yards'
    5. Rec Yds (Bonus 2) changed from '8 points at 100 yards' to '8 points at 115 yards'


    Messages
    League GM:


    Me:


    GM:
    Rushing attempt points added in: '.25'
     
  11. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    PS: This GM's an idiot.
    He designs a league where QBs reign supreme, yet his 2 starters are Flacco & Orton??? :lol:

    What'a maroon!
     
  12. PeaTearGriffin

    PeaTearGriffin Season Ticket Holder

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    If its free then I would just play it out especially since its your first year ever. So you can learn the ropes. I would not join the league again. Or even play with that same GM again. I hate weak commissioners or even shady owners.

    I think you can complain to yahoo but I'm not sure.
     
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  13. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    I would quit the league just to put this commish in a bad spot and teach him a lesson. Absolutely cannot change points after the draft.
     
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  14. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Yeah definitely a bad move by your commissioner. If it's a free league, I'd stick it out. If it's a money league, I'd demand a re-draft.
     
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  15. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Agree with the consensus here. Even if the scoring is whack, you cant change it after the draft.
     
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  17. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I agree with the consensus. You simply cannot change the scoring rules after the draft. If the commish forced it, I would quit on principal alone.
     
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