Serious question

HB pass first play of the game.

 

If D Thomas is out, I am thinking we won't, I am assuming he would be the triggerman. But who knows. Hopefully they can be creative with it down the road.

 

Yes.

I have a feeling we will see it, and I'll roll my eyes in disgust. The play will work, and I'll act like I knew it was awesome the whole time.

 

I think we must run it sometime in the game if for no other reason then to let them know it is still an option for this team. Hopefully it will be used sparingly and not as a drive killer/rythm killer as it has in the past at times.

 

In the redzone and Henne just completed 5 straight? WILDCAT TIME
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As long as we don't run it when Henne is on fire.

 

yea, it looked like he got hurt on the play...did he?

 

I think it needs to be judiciously run at particular times in the game. I know that Daboll had Cribbs running it in Cleveland. Thomas is the likely candidate here, but is he going to play ? That could cramp their style a bit as to how much it is used. What I'm hoping is that we won't need to use it...that the new offense will be enough to keep us in the game, but I'm sure that BB will have something to say about that. They seem to be ready to play when they have to, no matter how good or bad they've played overall during a season (or in this case, PS)... I just don't think it has much relevance for us at this time. We are still learning to execute the overall offense and given that we've had no offseason, I'd say that we will see little of the WC...

 

I'm not crazy about any wildcat plays until our line shows a little more cohesion and protection. Let's get our offense running smoothly, then pull out the WC, if needed.

 

Hard to see them doing it at this point. Once Thomas gets more reps in the offense I'm sure it will make an appearance though.

 

Hopefully only for goal line situations inside the 5. Other than that, I'd rather keep Henne in the game. Let's see what this kid can do.

 

Except for the totally open practices , even media were not allowed to watch all of the practice. So they certainly could have been working on WC plays for most if not all of training camp. With Daboll's history in Cleveland and and the feeling they will want to have NE on their toes , I would expect to see a few plays depending on how the game goes.

 

EDIT: Didn't see this was already mentioned. My bad guys.

Not sure if you guys saw Ronnie Brown run the Wildcat for the Eagles around the goal line yesterday. It fooled no one and he nearly got injured on the play when the two ends sandwiched his ***.

I do think we'll see it at least some variation of it, but mostly as a trick play.

 

I think we'll see it. Especially if the running game is hurting out of our traditional offense.

 

I expect we'll see it, and I expect we'll see some passes out of it. If we cannot throw out of the Wildcat, it might be truly dead.

 

Who is gonna' run it?

 

I hope not, but it's certainly possible. let's just hope it doesn't result in Marshall throwing into quadruple coverage again

 

Being able to throw from it makes it much more effective imo. One would have to expect DT being able to hit on some pass options from it , and that I both would like to see and expect to see. Situation has to be right of course , but tonight may be the right situation.

 

Daboll ran some Wildcat with Josh Cribbs(and was better at it) so it could happen. Especially since the Patriots were the team we first used it on. Who could run it though? Reggie Bush?

 

Sweet!

Gimme da link!

 

Thanks man!

 

Short yardage and goal line situations it makes too much sense to use it...you can't just shelve it in those situations. That's part of the reason you bring a Reggie Bush and Daniel Thomas together into the same backfield, so that you have a trigger man and a fly sweep man.

I'm sure the Patriots are preparing like we'll use it.

 

Daniel Thomas. He was a QB to RB convert in college, and was the Wildcat trigger man at Kansas State. Charles Clay was also a wildcat trigger man in college.

 

A loss. How bad, I don't know. I just see several things that seemed to play out this weekend that work against us, one of those being the thing I've primarily feared all this time which is that with the lockout and the shortened off season, established offenses with established players that have chemistry with one another seem to be ahead of of defenses. It makes me think Chad OchoCinco will be a non-factor for the Patriots tonight, but they'll primarily make use of guys like Wes Welker, Deion Branch, Julian Edelman, Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski...all of whom are pretty familiar with Tom Brady and he with they.

We can get into it back and forth about off season players-only practices, etc...but I don't see those things as any substitute, and almost none of the defensive players were present for any of those.

My gut is that what happens tonight is the defense lets us down a lot more than anyone thought they would. I think the offense may actually perform fairly well, as Chad Henne retains a lot of familiarity with Brandon Marshall, Brian Hartline, Davone Bess and Anthony Fasano. But in terms of the complete game, I think it's a loss and I think it's by more than 7 points.

 

Hey, stop reading my mind! :-)

I can see the same thing happening where they put up 35-40 points on us. Hope I'm wrong as well.

 

O come on just say it you know you want it.

I say not today but we will see it this year in very limited doses.

 

I worry about that contunuity advantage too, and that we know Brady is gonna be pumped to play..when he does, they execute..I'am thinking because our defensive players are familiar with themselves and the scheme, it will be helpful to combat that somewhat..

 

What makes things more interesting is, now that Henne has improved his footspeed and quickness, we can run it out of the base offense with Henne as a credible receiving threat...if they so choose.

DTrain in the Ronnie b role, and Lexxy or LJ on the jet sweep or even Bush.

 

Sexy Lexy or LJ aren't scaring anyone on a jet sweep. That has to be Bush or possibly even Gates, it needs to be someone that threatens horizontally.

 

I disagree with you CK for one reason. Odrick and Starks are Taylor are going to give the Pats right side of the line tremendous trouble. It's not going to be easy for Tom to pick apart the D if they have to shift protection to the right and against Cameron Wake.