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Dolphins negotiating with David Garrard

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Desides, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Via @AllSportsIntel:

    Good backup if we can get him.

    And to head off the inevitable "Why would he be a backup here?" questions, the thought process is likely an assumption that Henne will flounder, Garrard can step in, and because Henne's in the last year of his deal, Garrard can lock down the starting job going forward.
     
  2. Jaj

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    Interesting. I don't think it hurts and if forced to play he would be excellent with his mobility.
     
  3. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    I think it would be horrible for Henne. One bad game and people will be screaming for Garrard - sort of like Pennington last year.
     
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  4. mullingan

    mullingan New Grandbaby Pic!!!

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    No reason not to see what he wants. I, although probably in the minority, have some real optimism with Henne this year but never hurts to have a better "plan b" just incase.
     
  5. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I would agree with that. Also, not a fan of the timing of this right before our week 1 matchup after Henne had a real good preseason. Just a distraction that we don't need. If Garrard is brought here, and sold to everyone as a backup, nothing more at this point, then ok, thats fine I suppose, but the way this fanbase has been acting lately, I don't like the though of what could happen if Henne has a bad game. Even if that bad game is preceded by 5 good ones.
     
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  6. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    :huh:

    Not. sure. if. serious.
     
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  7. patcobb

    patcobb Active Member

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    I optimistic in Henne. I really want to see what he has and want to see him succeed. Having said that, this is his last shot. We Ride or die with Henne. If he does not improve in now his 3rd year starting, with more weapons, new OC, new attitude then we know this season is lost and that we have to break the bank at the draft and start over again next season. I like Garrard but don't think he would add that much to our team than make it like at best 10-5, maybe squeak into the playoffs and then lose. Its Henne or bust!
     
  8. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    I also dislike the timing. Know what, though? Henne had a trial by fire with those "we Want Orton" chants at camp. If he truly IS ready to take the bull by the horns this season, then the Garrard news will make Henne determined to play so well tonight that he slams the door shut on any thoughts of the Dolphins needing Garrard as a potential starter this year.
     
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  9. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    If Garrard was smart he'd sign with the Colts.
     
  10. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    Desides, why would we want Garrard to lock down the starting job going forward when Jax doesn't even want the guy and used a 1st round pick to replace him?

    Either Henne shows enough to where he's resigned as our 2012+ QB....... or we draft a QB in the 1st round and move forward with him.
    No more of this carousel nonsense. Garrard is not a long term answer.
     
  11. firedan

    firedan Well-Known Member

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    What Henne thinks of whomever is his back up is secondary to what the teams need are.If he plays bad fans will call for whoever that is so you should have the best available.They are all one hit away from retirement.
     
  12. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    More motivation for Henne.


    I BELIEVE IN YOU CHAD!
     
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  13. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    I think they don't quite care. It's make or break for Chad Henne anyway; if he struggles tonight, they (or at least poor Tony) don't have the time to give him six more starts and see if he's going to turn it around. Should Henne play well tonight, I don't see them signing Gerrard to begin with. Should he play poorly, I think they're looking at Gerrard not as a backup, but a starter right away. They need solid play at QB right now, not in week 7.
     
  14. ToddsPhins

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    I don't think we'd be looking at him for anything other than a back-up upgrade to Moore in case of injury. Nothing wrong with a little due diligence to see what his price is provided it's made known that he's a backup. The last thing we need right now is locker room/leadership controversy.
     
  15. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    Not a David Garrard fan, but I'd take him on as a backup. I agree with a couple of other posters that the timing is bad for this report for sure. I also agree if I was Garrard I'd be making a beeline to Indy.
     
  16. BicketyBam

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    I don't think it is ever good for a starter's confidence when a backup is brought in that had better numbers than you the previous season. Garrard had a QBR of 90.8 with 23TD's and 15 INT's last year. He also ran for 5 TD's. Those a better numbers than what Henne put up last year - or ever for that matter. And before I get crucified, they are better numbers than Sanchez too.

    I think Garrard still has some game left in him and adding him to the team makes your roster stronger. But it will almost certainly lead to a QB controversy at some point. Just my opinion.
     
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  17. SRM

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    I doubt Henne's worried, the QB position is his now unless he's injured or just does flat out terrible for 4-5 games in a row. He led the team in the offseason, he has the support of all his teammates, and he's a team captain now. He's not just another QB on the roster like last year.. he won't be swapped out so easily now.
     
  18. Triggercut

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    Methinks this is planted by some NE fanboi sticking their infected toe in the fish bowl.
     
  19. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    With Sparano's job on the line? He'll get the hook sooner rather than later.
     
  20. padre31

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    Who in the wide world of football information sources is, "all sports intel"?

    And what makes them credible at all?
     
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  21. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I think he already knew that.
     
  22. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    I never buy that bringing in a vet to backup a QB when you need another QB on the roster hurts the starting QB. Henne isn't a baby, he's been in the league for 4 years, surely he would be able to handle Garrard as a backup. If that would hinder him then he isn't a playoff-caliber starting QB to begin with.

    Great QBs don't worry about who is behind them, because they don't have to, they go out and play well.
     
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  23. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    If you seriously believe that Tony "My Owner told me I have to win this season" Sparano is going to tolerate 4-5 terrible games by his quarterback, then I guess you have a lot of faith in the stubborness of one man. If Henne stinks tonight and you think that there's a better player available, then you owe it to your team, not to say your job, to acquire it. It's quite simple, really: Unless Henne proves that he has significantly improved, starting tonight, it's absolutely prudent to keep an eye on a potential upgrade.
     
  24. Vendigo

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    Well ... the last time we did exactly that, the dude led us to the playoffs.
     
  25. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    I'm less worried about Henne's level of maturity in handling this situation as I am the fans.

    How many bad passes will it take to start a "GARRARD!" chant? 3? 1?
     
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  26. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Yeah, the timing does make you wonder. It's curious that they'd sign him, likely to an extended contract (at worst 2-3 yrs) with Henne 'on the cusp' of establishing himself. I don't know that I'm all that comfortable with Moore as the starter should either Henne go down or just not play consistently, but with all the positive talk about Henne, it's rather odd that they'd jump into this fray with Garrard.

    As to Garrard himself, I'm not overly impressed. He was a one year wonder that due to his contract, it stretched into 3 or 4 years. Now if he comes on board as a backup and that's understood by all parties, I guess that would work, but I just don't see Garrard wanting to be in that situation with us...I think there are other teams that he'd more likely have opportunities with than us. Besides, if we falter this year and the regime is swept out of here, where would that leave him ??
     
  27. Agua

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    I really haven't watched Garrard play in a few years but as I recall, he was a pretty decent passer, though a little "stiff" or robotic.
     
  28. bakedmatt

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    If they sign him, whatever, but I don't think we'd be improving our team any. If the 90+ passer rating intrigues you, just look at his 2010 season game log -- not a single good performance against a good pass defense.
     
  29. Alex13

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    i´m ok with this, if henne plays well it doesnt matter, so its all up to him
     
  30. NaboCane

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    Good move. Every team which means to contend and has a young, still-developing starting QB needs a veteran backup QB; how different would Dolphins' history be without Earl Morrall and Don Strock?
     
  31. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Totally serious. This is how former starters (and UDFAs) select their new teams in the NFL. They go to the team they feel gives them the best chance to get back onto the field ASAFP.

    Of course, there's this counterpoint by Ben Volin:

    Garrard is basically the average quarterback in the NFL right now. I can name 15 QBs better and 16 worse. But over his career he's been better than Henne.
     
  32. Kanye West

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    The timing of this is impeccable
     
  33. pennphinfan

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    totally agree, except i'd rather have the homer's screaming for Garrard than screaming for Matt Moore. If we're gonna be stupid and pull Chad for a mediocre backup again i'm rather it be a better mediocre backup.

    That said, I hope Chad just shines and they can fuggedaboutit
     
  34. Tin Indian

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    I have to see tonight, but I don't even think that QB is our biggest worry anymore. I have that reserved or Columbo and Carey. Not Good.
     
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  35. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Now, I don't think one bad game tonight puts Tony in the 'what do I do now' mode. Shoot, the way I see it, Henne could be very good this year but if we aren't make some noise in late January, Ross is calling his friend Carl Peterson and firing up his jet to find out where Cowher or Fisher are keeping themselves... I think the situation is that Sparano is tenuous at best, but not out the door mid-season. Besides, he already knows that Henne at least gives the appearance of having a fragile psychy, why do something to perhaps push it over the top ??

    I still agree with Padre though, who is this reporting agency ??
     
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  37. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    It really depends on how bad the game was and who is out there as a potential upgrade. If Henne stinks and you're suddenly looking at an option like David Garrard, who, whether you like him or not (I'm not a huge fan either, by the way), has played pretty darn decent over the last couple of years, then it's a viable alternative. All Henne has to do is play a game that says "Why would we want Garrard instead", which isn't exactly asking for too much. If he doesn't, then the "Why aren't they looking at Gerrard" articles will pop up tomorrow, like it or not.
     
  38. NJFINSFAN1

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    Same number it will be before the Moore chants.
     
  39. dolfan22

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    FWIW: BenVolinPBP David Garrard's agent says he hasn't heard at all from the #Dolphins, who don't appear to have any interest
     
  40. CaribPhin

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    Watched a vid on NFL.com. Supposedly he played like **** all through camp and all of the players knew he was going to be cut. Luke McCown outshined him.
     

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