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This call defines us

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Buckeyetroop, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    A fade to Hartline on 4th down from inside the 1 yd line. If that's what Daboll comes up with during the timeout, he's a F***ing moron. They deserved to have it shoved down their throat from 99 yds out.
     
  2. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What exactly is the least bit ridiculous about the call?
     
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  3. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    I think it should've been a run...but Daboll has done more with Henne than Henning ever did Already. Like what I saw from Daboll offense, EXCEPT in the run game. Terrible, but the O-Line looked bad.
     
  4. Phinatic425

    Phinatic425 MIA State of Mind

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    ummm maybe it's because a fade is one of the lowest percentage plays in football and they threw it to Hartline of all people....it's not like Marshall isn't 6'4 much more talented
     
  5. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    This actually is a good point. It's what "wide open" offenses do in those situations.
     
  6. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    Thanks for answering for me. I can't believe the question was asked.
     
  7. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I wasn't a fan of the call at first either. Not to Hartline anyways. Daboll didn't even give us a chance to succeed in that position IMO. Id have rather seen a run by LJ or something. a TE pass, anything but that on 4th down. If it was 3rd... ok, sure, maybe.
     
  8. rdhstlr23

    rdhstlr23 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So, now the 4th & goal pass was too aggressive? That's what spread it out offenses do.

    I would have liked to have seen a run there, a QB sneak really. But, are personnel is set up for this type of offense. The Eagles struggle in that situation. The Colts struggled with it for years. Hell, even the Patriots struggle with it, although we didn't get to see it much.

    We left points out there certainly. However, does anyone else feel like our offense may be able to win a track meet once in a while now?

    I don't see the defense playing this poorly all year long. I was very pleased with the offense and Chad Henne.
     
  9. Jagfish

    Jagfish Season Ticket Holder

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    I like Daboll's offense. Huge improvement over last year. That was a shady call tho.
     
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  10. gilv13

    gilv13 Well-Known Member

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    What did you want them to do? Run against Haynesworth and Wilfork? Good luck with that.

    btw, i hated the call too.
     
  11. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    It's low percentage, even to Marshall, but Hartline? Like someone said, 3rd down maybe. 4th down at a key point in the game after having several minutes to come up with something. Horrible.
     
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  12. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    Like Gruden said, Bush airborn.
     
  13. evz

    evz Feral Druid Club Member

    That call didn't lose the game. Brady killed us with the no huddle...
     
  14. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    It was a brain fart in an otherwise well called offensive game. Let's cut him some slack, it was no Ricky Williams half back pass. I've seen one game and I can say without a doubt:

    Dabol > Henning
     
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  15. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    I think it's okay to complain about one or two playcalls here or there, but to use them as an indictment of our new offensive coordinator seems a little short-sighted, especially since Chad Henne played his most complete game as a quarterback since, well, ever.
     
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  16. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    Terrible call IMO.

    But Daboll called a great game otherwise. This was Game 1 following a lockout-marred offseason. Imagine when they get comfy and more experienced.

    Looking forward to what I hope is years of this offense.
     
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  17. Larry Little

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    It was a bad call, IMHO. But, it was the only call Daboll made that I seriously questioned. Last season, there were about 6-8 of those a game.
     
  18. bcfinfan

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    That was a huge play, which if successful would've put us only a td behind. 1 play later Welker goes 99 yds. and the games over.
    Unbelievable call from the 1/2 yard line. Way too close to run a fade especially to a short receiver. Larry johnson is sitting on the bench why not give it to him.
    And the lack of understanding between Henne and Marshall near the goal line is inexcusable. Surely they've practiced passes from inside the 5 hundreds of times.
     
  19. Fin-Omenal

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    Bess was open on the in route, but i have nothing bad about to say about our offense other than the OL.
     
  20. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Key phrase....
     
  21. muscle979

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    A QB sneak would have been a better call than that, even with the way our Oline played.
     
  22. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

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    Marshall wouldn't have gotten the 1-1 coverage out there though. The better pass would have been to the inside shoulder and the front pylon after the defender turned his back. I agree the fade was a terrible call. Actually the correct play would have been Polite up the middle for the TD. What a terrible decision.
     
  23. Dee

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    He called a good game, but that was brutal. At least throw it to Marshall. But really you don't make that call anyway. It's the worst ball that Henne throws. Run a cross, an out, a quick slant, go under center and run play action, really just about anything other than a fade to Hartline.

    But overall, you can't say that much about Daboll. We had nearly 500 yards of offense and that's the best Henne has looked in his entire career.
     
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  24. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    I agree that Daboll seemed to call a very good game, but it's hard to excuse that call at a key point in the game.
     
  25. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    No he wasn't. If Henne throws to Bess, the safety jumps it for 6 the other way. I thought he was open too, but the replay shows a safety, crashing down.

    The call itself was stupid. I thought they should have had Henne sneak it in. They weren't accounting for Henne's feet at all, and while not the most swift scrambler, he was effective. A quick count QB sneak is what I would have done. Oh well.

    The Patriots were just...better. I hate to say it, but its the truth. The good news is that Henne kicked *** against a pretty formidable opponent. If we can get out of the first part of our season okay, and he continues to play like that, we will be fine.
     
  26. ToddsPhins

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    The 1st play offside against Merling was the call of the game. Why was he even starting?
     
  27. Jagfish

    Jagfish Season Ticket Holder

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    Henne looked in command for sure and Reggie Bush looked good as well.
     
  28. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    No worries here.... Chad Henne has improved his game. The development is on.....
    You see it? I saw it....
    WTF is wrong with Marshall?
     
  29. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Ok...create a sticky of that comment and force everyone to read it.

    Hell we're gonna look alot better even in Nov/Dec.

    This is an offense we can win with...no doubt about it.
     
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  30. Darrelle Revis

    Darrelle Revis I BELIEVE!

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    Horrible call. Either run or quick slant to Marshall.
     
  31. Rhody Phins Fan

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    It was a terrible call but I think it says a lot more about this front office and coaching staff than our offensive coordinator. We went out and got a new runningback, used a first round pick on an offensive lineman, have a coach who is all about the run, and they can't even put a team on the field that they are confident in to gain 1.5 feet? Seriously?
     
  32. NorFlaFin

    NorFlaFin Active Member

    Run/pass option to the wideside. Henne has shown his wheels; let him take it in.
     
  33. Fin-Omenal

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    Sam if Henne throws it right as Bess turns its a TD.....I wouldve perfered a quick slant or toss to Bush, but fades to Hartline?? Owell, great work passing game, keep it up and we contend for a wild card spot.
     
  34. NJFINSFAN1

    NJFINSFAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    The one thing I will not complain about tonight was the play calling, I liked the more aggressive offense after that crap we had the last two years!
     
  35. Buckeyetroop

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    Bess shouldn't even be mentioned on this play. It wasn't a read, he was going to Hartline from the snap.
     
  36. Samphin

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    Our offense looked better in a loss than the Jets looked in a win, if that is any consolation. I pray our defense figures something out before the annual Texans *** whooping next week, though.
     
  37. DHPVW

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    we couldn't exactly run the ball so what would you suggest??? At this point in the game did it really matter.....stop *****ing about everything possible and STFU!
     
  38. Buckeyetroop

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    It didn't matter at that point? Really?
     
  39. DHPVW

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    GTFO....they went with one on one coverage to the least likely person to get the ball. Henne would have thrown a bit better ball and it could have worked
     
  40. DHPVW

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    Tell me how we were going to win even with a TD at that point??? Please, I'm dying to know???
     

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