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This call defines us

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Buckeyetroop, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    So we had no shot at that point right? You're ok with that? Wow!
     
  2. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    They dont double team fades very often so the same coverage would've been there for 19.
     
  3. Striking

    Striking Junior Member

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    Not a very good call but it hardly defines us.
     
  4. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    You pinning that on Henne? I have to ask since that was kinda your thing all along....
     
  5. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    Nope, never said that at all. Was responding to someones remark. Henne played great. He ran the play that was called.
     
  6. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    Marshall? Absolutely nothing and it showed when his routes are consistantly going away from the Qb instead of back to him like Henning did to him all last season. Marshall had a good game.
     
  7. Jay 75

    Jay 75 New Member

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    Yes the Miami Dolphins offense is defined by one red zone play in the first game of the season....lol
     
  8. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Except for the dumb time out call when he was rocking in his stance..
    Also the onside kick where he was asking Hilliard what to do. He is a hands guy. Hell Oz he was confused but weren't we all with two kickers on the field.
     
  9. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box


    You're nitpicking bro. He had a very good game and it could have been much better. I mean I could say wtf was Henne thinking three or four times but damn that. He and Marshall came to play ...
     
  10. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Off course I'm nitpicking when it comes to a top 5 WR that seemed to be a little behind at times.
    Agree Marshall played well but still things that bugged me. Step up.
    His TD production was talked about about tonight. No secret Oz.
     
  11. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    my problem is that henne is not very good at that throw. maybe in practice he can do it, but he had already failed at similar one on ones in the end zone previously.
     
  12. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Which throw?
     
  13. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Fade
     
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  14. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Hartline is 6'2", has good hands, and good body control, and Henne's read wasn't incorrect.

    A play call being bad is not inherently dictated by its success or failure.
     
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  15. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Since they can't run the ball once they get near the opponents goal line, I guess a fade pass was all they thought they could call on that play. I am far more upset with the fact that they don't have enough confidence in their offense line to gain a half yard, than I am in the pass to Hartline. That call shows how little faith Sparano has in the players on his offensive line and the running backs he has on his roster.
     
  16. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    You do realize he could have had 3 TD's tonight right? One he should have caught and two that Henne overthrew! Its a new offense with a short time for everyone to learn it.

    You should be praising him with the way he was sitting next to Henne discussing things, and constantly the two were comunicating on the field.

    Henne played a damned good game but he could have been better! Marshall came to play and it showed but he could have been better as well.
     
  17. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    That was the turning point. A TD would've cut the Patriots lead to 7, and the 99 yard Welker TD would have never happened. Oh well....
     
  18. djphinfan

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    I didn't like the call, I think too many times we relied on playmakin ability rather than creating space thru scheme design..
     
  19. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    We would have been down 7 with the 4the quarter to go. Please tell me what you were watching tonight????
     
  20. Jaj

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    It was bad even if it worked.

    Hartline has good hands when he's not fighting with someone to wrest control of the ball. Good body control? Not for making difficult receptions, for running routes yes. Fasano has good body control. Hartline doesn't have explosive leaping ability either. Marshall, Wallace, and perhaps Rosario are capable of that play. By the way why did we not see Rosario at all? Waters started the game for the Patriots at RG, we couldn't seen Miami run to the edge with Rosario and Fasano in a 2 TE?
     
  21. Aquafin

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    Well I wasnt unhappy about the call but Hartline droped more then one pass and he wasnt the factor that Welker would have been if he was still in a fin uniform. what we really needed was Lousalka Polite or Ronnie Brown or a another big tight end but thatis myopinion but I may be way offon that. in truth I want Polite back getter done ya.
     
  22. Fin D

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    Meh, this play was just equal parts panic and Daboll outsmarting himself.

    We weren't winning this game, TD there or not. *****ing about the offense after that game is like *****ing about how you only lost one shingle after a Cat 5 hurricane.
     
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  23. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Did we not see Hartline end up catching a ball in tight coverage in the end zone earlier in the game, even? Or the diving catch in preseason? The guy makes difficult, contested passes, and he can make them and hold on to them going to the ground.The idea that there might be someone better on the roster for a fade isn't really a sound reason to denounce a fade thrown to another player with the proper skillset in the correct circumstances. You're acting as if they threw it to a double-covered Clyde Gates.
     
  24. arsenal

    arsenal Sunglasses and advil

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    didn't like the call, but that whole sequence is what changed the game... a swing from a 7 point deficit to a 21pt deficit over 2 plays... that hurts

    i would have liked a play action, with some options for Henne instead of that call... especially with Henne not having the timing/communications on some of those previous end zone singled WR throws...
     
  25. PhinishLine

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    Thanks for this Muck. Sometimes I don't know what discourages me more as a Dolfan.....negative play.....or the negative fanbase. We all know our team isnt perfect and we werent going to come out and shock the world. We have problems but we also have promise. I'm excited to see it. It was FUN to watch the Dolphins last night folks....actual FUN. That juices me....I dunno bout yall.
     
  26. texasPHINSfan

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    I was a big fan of the run on 2nd and 23 too. :up:
     
  27. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Obviously, you didn't watch the game I was watching...at that point in the game, every time the O left the field, 2 mins later they'd be back out there because the pasties had scored another td...give me a break...the O can only do so much...somewhere along the line this "top 5 D" that everyone is touting has to show up to work...
     
  28. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    You didn't even address my point so I have no idea what you are talking about. What did I comment on that wasn't accurate?
     
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  29. jdang307

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    Huh? I watched it. It was 4th and goal. Down by 14. They called a time out. They came back and called a fade to Hartline. Nothing you said has bearing on what happened on that play.

    Put it this way. When they called that play and I watched us squander another chance, I thought Henning was still here. That's how bad that call was.
     
  30. Coral Reefer

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    I don't believe you can fault Daboll for the running game.
    Exactly what has Ireland given him to work with?
    Were we going to punch it in the end zone with Reggie Bush along with the subpar OL we've built?
    Daboll did what he could with what he had.

    We needed a ground game to slow down the game but we simply do not have the personnel to do so.
     
  31. Coral Reefer

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    Well I can't totally argue with the play but I will say that if you're going to in essence throw a jump ball up then you should probably go to your go to WR you traded for. You put it in his hands for better or worse. Don't think Hartline was the right call there.

    Regardless, if were going to point out what on offense greatly helped this loss it's the lack of our having the personnel to run the ball.
    To have a chance in this game we would have needed to be more balanced and given more time to our D. Not that the extra time really would have changed things the way things looked last night but the longer you keep an offense like that off the field you have some semblence of control.
     

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