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Houston - You Got A Problem

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Southbeach, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

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    After week #1, the Miami Dolphins D is ranked #31 of 32 in the NFL. We are consistent in being #32 vs the pass, #30 vs the run, and #29 in rushing the QB. How could any O not look forward to playing this pathetic D?

    Wait until Sunday, and you will see a VERY PISSED OFF D with something to prove. We got killed last week, and it ain't gonna happen again. Players on D are foaming at the mouth. led by Wake, to play again, and prove their worth, and they will.

    There is nothing you can do about it. It is coming, and will happen.
     
  2. NaboCane

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    Spitting into the wind is cute.
     
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  3. Jaj

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    I think it's going to very different. Miami's approach to the game will be tire out the Houston D in their dark blue uniforms by running at them all day and using a quick ball-control offense to stop what Wade Phillips brings to the table (Speed).
     
  4. MarinePhinFan

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    The Texans don't have the O-line that the Pats have. That will be why Shaub won't be as successful as Brady.
     
  5. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    We have never beaten Houston. What gives us any reason to think this Sunday will be any different? Especially after that pathetic display by our defense. It will be up to Chad Henne and company to keep up, and if they can't it will be just as bad or worse than Monday.
     
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  6. MarinePhinFan

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    Brady has more time in the pocket than any QB in the league. Cassel put up numbers similar to Brady's career season average. Nearly any average QB would excel in that offense.
     
  7. Southbeach

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    I believe you will be proven Dead Wrong. Always open to a wager on top of opinions. :)
     
  8. HoustonTexanFan

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    The Texans practice in 105+ weather every single day. If there's 1 team that will be in shape it's Houston.

    I believe it was 23 straight days of over 103. That's no joke.
     
  9. Southbeach

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    My wife is "cute" and then some. My post is not. A wager will secure your opinion. If ya like, a bottle is a fair gentleman's bet?
     
  10. Zeke0123

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    They should be better..they got caught with their pants down monday...and Will Allen should help keep Shaub from targeting "the Dolphin that looks like he is lost" like Brady did... since the communication should be better and if Clemons starts the Free safety spot should be less "exposed".
     
  11. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    Maybe if the Dolphins figure out how to score at the goal-line. Otherwise they would be better off getting some penalties on purpose so they can move back for some open field. I cringe when Miami is stopped at the 1 or 2 yard line.
     
  12. Jaj

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    Do the Texans practice in their dark blue?

    By the way based on their style of play your offense should regularly kick your defense's *** in practice.
     
  13. NaboCane

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    Yep...hot and just as muggy in Houston.
     
  14. NaboCane

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    :lol: Bet, really? Thought that **** was addressed by a Mod in another thread.
     
  15. AdamC13

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    Not sure who OP thinks is ranked behind us defensively. We gave up 688 total yards which makes Miami 32nd on D.

    On the flip side, Miami is ranked #2 on offense behind NE...488 total yards.

    Bad news, Andre Johnson...Good news, Schaub is no Brady.
     
  16. Jaj

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    This game will make Henne a short passer and that's a good thing. The speed at which Henne gets out the ball against the blitz will serve him well against the Texans D. Reggie Bush and Fasano over the middle will be very hard to stop especially after the catch (remember 08-09 days when we faced quick RBs and TEs). Not only that but Brandon Marshall will really hurt his match-up. Either way if Henne can get the ball out in under about three seconds or so (he did against New England), the Dolphins' offense will give tremendous trouble to the Texans.
     
  17. TiP54

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    If we play anything like we did Monday, Andre Johnson is gonna set the single game record for catches yards AND touchdowns.
     
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  18. Jaj

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    A nobody right guard?
     
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    The whole key to this game is Miami's ability to control the ball and keep the defense on the field. Thats one of the biggest problems our defense had, other than apparently conditioning. Brady kept our defense on the field and wore it down. I hope Thomas can run the ball between the tackles because that was a missing aspect of the NE game, you can't strictly run the ball to the outside and expect to maintain ball control.
     
  20. HoustonTexanFan

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    The offense practices in white and the defense practices in blue.

    The offense used to kick our defense's *** every single day in practice last year but this year it's been different. Everyone and their mother in Houston believes that Wade has really turned this defense around. Hope that's the truth. :D
     
  21. Jaj

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    That's nice except Brian Waters is their RG and Conolly is a solid lineman.
     
  22. Jaj

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    The Pats linemen are good players all of them including Connolly. Waters has been the best pass protecting guard in the league for seven years. Give that team their due. Brady is excellent. Keep reaching for straw-man arguments about how this guy is successful etc etc... Point is they have a great scheme, a great coach, a fantastic QB, and good players.

    Are the Texans as good? They're good but I have a feeling they're going to get pressured by the same Fin D from Monday.
     
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  23. VanDolPhan

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    Brian Waters is an all pro RG. I would have loved if we signed him for RG and kept Carey at RT instead.
     
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  24. MarinePhinFan

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    Brady has had 2 great years and the rest were average to slightly above. His career averages are around the numbers you just posted including those 2 great seasons. And again, cassel's year he played he put up numbers really close to Brady's average season and did so off of the bench and not having one single start since high school.
     
  25. DolfanJake

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    I'm coming around, believe it or not. I think we win this one. Chad & Daboll proved something to me the other night.
     
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  26. Larryfinfan

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    That's a recipe for defeat. Not because I think poorly of Henne but this offense isn't ready to 'keep up' with offensive juggernauts like NE and Houston, etc...I look to see more of the same, even thou I'm sure the D will be better (it couldn't get much worse) if for nothing more than professional pride. But to throw this offense at this time into this type of game is certainly a recipe for defeat...
     
  27. MikeHoncho

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    We're gonna Shotgun Pooper them to smithereens.


    (Did I use that correctly?)
     
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  28. muscle979

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    Dan blew every single season record out of the water. He didn't break it by one or two TDs at the end of the season. His single season yardage record still stands despite the NFL doing everything it can to inflate stats. He should have had a ring. It was a perfect storm of bad luck. [Drawing the loaded at every position 49ers dynasty in the SB early in his career, Shula not being able to figure out the Bills no huddle before Dan's prime was over... etc.] The way he could play was simply amazing. Dan made one of the best defenses to ever walk onto a football field look silly. [85 Bears] Where is something like that on Brady's resume? He beats up on teams that can barely do anything about it. When he [and I use 'he' here very loosely] won Super Bowls he was managing games and letting the D and the kicker do most of the work. When teams can actually pressure Brady he does crappy. A guy could think he had Dan for the sack and suddenly the football was flying on a rope 30 yards down the field with deadly accuracy. I'll just have to assume you're too young to have ever seen Dan play.
     
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  29. Ricky'sBong

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    Yes, the Texan offense is terrified of a D with one legit pass rusher and absolutely no one that can cover athletic TE's. Throw in Arian Foster may return. Intimidation abounds.
     
  30. MarinePhinFan

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    No "we" would not. Championships are team accomplishments. If it was a QB accomplishment Marino would have 5 and Dilfer, Johnson, Namath and many other QB's would have none.

    Two great seasons is not enough to make a QB an all time great. When Brady retires he will most likely hold one major, individual QB record...50 TDs in a season. Even then he got 50 while playing every second of every game and during a time when QBs can't be looked at wrong or else get a penalty. manning got to 49 while sitting 2 games and Marino got 48 during a time when QBs where killed and their WRs were raped every play. Hell every record Marino held that has now been broken (17 of them) was done so by either Favre or Manning except the one Brady got.
     
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  31. MarinePhinFan

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    He's 23... You guessed it.
     
  32. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    What we do know is that Wake should be pissed off this week because he got his a$$ kicked by a rookie RT that was playing out of position. He played LT at CU.
     
  33. Alex13

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    its all good houston has jason allen on defense, we win....
     
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  34. Coral Reefer

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    I'd like to think we could do that.
    However I'll ask the simple question, what about our OL and RB personnel makes you think we are actually capable of being able to run right at and sustain a ball control drive against anyone this year.

    At this point, I don't see it.

    I also see our defense having very similar issues as they did with the Pats against Houston.
     
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  35. jdang307

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    I grew up watching Dan. In fact he's the only reason this San Diegan is a life long Dolphins fan.

    You have to be old, real old, to remember Dan's great play. Because at Brady's age Dan's play trailed, off. Big time. I know, how dare ye blaspheme. But Dan has a touchdown % of 5.0%, Tom Brady 5.6%. That's career. INT's Dan has a % of 3.0. Brady? 2.2%.

    Dan started his career guns blazing. Unprecedented. Amazing. But look at his later years they were quite unremarkable. Brady is having an unbelievable run right now. Go back, look at Marino's years. Here they are right here.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MariDa00.htm

    What were Dan's amazing years? 1984? Definitely. 1985? 30 TDs and 21 INTs? 1986? 44 TDs and 23 INTs. Now, I know the DBs were more aggressive back then due to the rules, so we can cut Dan a lot of slack. Don't get me wrong.

    Its hard to compare eras, due to rule and player changes. But it isn't insane to argue Brady is having some of the best years of any QB right now. And he's getting better. At this age unfortunately Dan's play was trailing off a bit.
     
  36. BuckeyeKing

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    We have never beat the Texans and when we have a lead we somehow blow it. Texans may not be as potent as the Pats but they will hurt us. Could get ugly.
     
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  37. ckparrothead

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    1. Heat will not be an issue for the Houston Texans. For those of us that were around in 2003, you know this, or at least you should remember it. All we could talk about before the Week 1 game which was at 1pm (those were the days) was how the Texans would wilt in the heat and humidity because no team could possibly be as used to it as us. Except, they were. Houston has heat and humidity on par with South Florida during the summer.

    2. Motivation COULD be a problem though. Let's not over-think this one. They just KILLED the Colts. We just GOT killed by the Patriots in embarrassing fashion. Our defense will most assuredly be out for blood. Motivation will at the very least not be a negative for the Dolphins in any way, shape or form...it will probably in fact be a factor going in Miami's favor.

    3. The flip side of the motivation argument is a confidence argument. The Dolphins defenders have to be questioning themselves a little bit after Tom Brady broke records against a defense that walked into the game absolutely confident that they were good. Normally they wouldn't question themselves based on one bad outing, but that wasn't just a bad outing...it was a record breaking bad outing, on national television. The Texans on the other hand, let's be kind and say they had to be 'cautiously optimistic' about how their defense was going to work out for them, considering their switch to an unfamiliar 3-4 and not necessarily having some of the conventional parts necessary for it. But the defense hit it out of the park against the Colts. Mario Williams was an animal.

    It's all about whether things go too far. The Texans defense has every reason to be confident following the Colts game, but do they have enough reason to be over-confident? The Colts were, after all, without Peyton Manning. The outing has to boost their confidence but I tend to doubt it leads to them being over-confident. On the flip side, the Dolphins defense allowed that record breaking outing which would tend to slide them into 'pissed off' range...but if the outing is bad enough, it skates them right past 'pissed off' and into 'questioning ourselves', and that would be bad. The question I guess is whether the Dolphins' defenders can just chalk it up to Tom Brady being one of the best to ever play the game, that way they can satisfy themselves thinking we're still really good, but Tom Brady was just that good.

    I think the Dolphins' defense could suffer a little bit from questioning themselves. Often times when a team tears open a hole in one of your units like that, the bleeding doesn't stop right away. It takes a while.

    However, the Dolphins offense has to be feeling pretty confident from their outing. I don't honestly think the confidence is warranted because IMO their outing was not nearly as good as it's purported to be, but the players will still feel the confidence from it...and if the Houston defense is just a paper tiger, then we could have another shootout, and this time IMO it's not as easy to call as the Patriots game was.
     
  38. MarinePhinFan

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    A better way is to see how a player compared to the other players in thier era. Yeah, Montana had the rings (actually the 49ers had the rings) but NO one was putting up numbers like Dan from 1984 to 1993 (The year he tore his achilles) Dan's last 6 seasons weren't all that great, compared to his first 10, however, when you compare them to other QB's he was still up there even though he was hobbled badly. In his pre-injury years he led the league each season in at least one major passing stat and most of the time more than one. In 9 full seasons (actually he missed 4 games in 1987 so really only 8) he led the league in yds passing 5 times, TD passes 4 times, and average yards per game 4 times. There are other passing stats he led the league in too. Brady has had 2 great seasons and a bunch of average seasons. As I've written before, Brady would need another 4 or 5 great seasons in order to jump onto a top 10 All Time great list. And if he retired right now I wouldn't put him on the top 20 list.

    Marino played in 240 games. He has 61,000 yds passing and 420 TD's.

    Brady has played in 144 games. He has 35,000 yds passing and 265 TD's.

    For Brady to match those yards he would have to keep playing at his current level for at least 8 more years. Do you think Brady can play until he's 44 years old?

    To match the TD's he'd need to play at his current level for over 5 more seasons.

    In short Brady would have to have 5 or more seasons of above average (for him) numbers to even come close to Marino. So far Brady has had only 2 great (Marino like) seasons out of his 11 years in the league.(2000-2010) How much longer do you think Brady can play at the level he is now? He's 35 years old.
     
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  39. TackHammer

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    Not sure where you got that info,but you might want to rethink it. The Texans O-Line is one of the best in the NFL.:up:
     
  40. jw3102

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    I hope all of you who see a win are correct. Because if the Dolphins start out 0-2 at home, they are looking at going 1-4 or possibly 0-5 to start the season. I also wonder why some on here think the Dolphins are somehow going to tire out the Texans, when it was the Dolphins who were the team not in condition on Monday night. I doubt if the players who were so out of shape on Monday can suddenly get into a lot better shape by Sunday. Also the game will be earlier, which means the heat will be up, compared to Monday night.

    I see the Texans being able to move the ball against the defense, much like the Patriots did. In fact, except for Brady, I think the Texans offensive players are every bit as good as the players on the Patriots, if not better. So I expect the Texans to score at least 30 points and it will be up to the Dolphins offense to exceed 30 points if they expect to win this game. It should be an exciting offensive game, but I think the Dolphins defense was exposed last week and I just don't see them being a dominant defense this season.
     

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