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3 reasons we lost today

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Fintastic, Sep 18, 2011.

  1. Fintastic

    Fintastic Banned

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    1. Oline sucks
    2. Oline is terrible
    3. Reshad Jones/Carpenter

    The line is PUTRID. I mean Henne had ZERO time to get the ball downfield. Why is Colombo here???? He is a joke! How is Reshad Jones not over top on Andre Johnson???? And Carpenter, REALLY???? Those are 2 EASY FGS. This team is a mess. I feel bad for Henne. He is the only one really doing his job consistently.
     
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  2. Jaj

    Jaj Registered

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    That says something though. A turn around for a good coach shouldn't be hard.
     
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  3. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Even though he didnt have much time, Henne didn't play very good today either.
     
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  4. rdhstlr23

    rdhstlr23 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    ST's
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    Red Zone Offense
     
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  5. Fintastic

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    When the O line just lets the defense into your face, you can't play good. Brady would be HORRIBLE with this line. At least Chad has SOME mobility, Brady would be dead.
     
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  6. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    What about the run D? Yeah, we allowed 100 yards to their backup RB.
     
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  7. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    The O-line is not good.
    Vontae is an out of shape loud Mouth.
    Carpenter all of a sudden forgot how to kick a freakin' field goal.
     
  8. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    Man, I wonder if there is a connection between a QB not having time and playing average-poor?

    This loss is on the OL, Carpenter for the missed FGs, and the D coming up small yet again when needed most. I think Sparano has till about week six before he is fired by Ross to appease the fans. Ireland will join him if the new coach wants more GM control (Gruden or Cowher will be getting a phone call soon).
     
  9. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    This is going to be a loooooong ****ty year.
     
  10. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Even though not having much time was why he didn't play good.
     
  11. jpep13

    jpep13 Coach Of The Year Club Member

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    Defense had its sure not just offense, add coaching to it as well
     
  12. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    R Jones should be shown to the bench
    ST was poor, to me that is the largest reason for the loss.
    Poor focus overall
     
  13. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    All kickers have a bad games.

    More disconcerting is the team still following the same cruel script.

    - Settling for field goals in the red zone.

    - Offense getting the ball with a chance to really get the team rolling (tie the game, step on throat etc.), and quickly turns it over.

    - Defense giving up a quick, retaliatory score.


    I kid you not, the last two points.....I called it out there today. It's like clockwork. This group simply cannot play with momentum offensively. And the defense routinely gives up 'that' score.
     
  14. Styla

    Styla #1 Davone Bess Fan!!!

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    Hey at least we have NBA....oh wait.....:pity:
     
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  15. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, I was happy Henne threw the ball into the EZ, that will pick up but has to have some time and opportunities for it to come around.

    Do agree Muck, overall it is like a script, no one wants to step up, that is the difference between numbers and wins.
     
  16. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    - Henne played better than his stats show. He didn't play good, but he didn't stink either
    - The OL wasn't horrible. The OL played pretty good
    - Dan Carpenter indeed sucked. So did the redzone offense

    Oh, you wanted the 3 reasons we lost today? Okay then:

    - Not going on 4th and 1 in the 4th is inexcusable. Especially considering we wasted a timeout on an "let's try to catch them offline" call that every pee wee coach catches.
    - The Thomas fumble was a killer. I don't even blame Thomas, but it was a game changing play, probably THE game changing play
    - I'll go on the record and say it and I don't mind if I catch a lot of hate: Daboll as a Miami playcaller stinks as much as he stunk as a Cleveland playcaller. The guy has some decent gameplans, but his calls suck balls
     
  17. Jaj

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    Daboll sucks as a play caller? Really? How? His double TE motion was what kick started the running game. He's running 3 WR Miami's best lineup. His PAs are at appropriate times. He's not bad at all. He milked that success in the run game. No wild cat. He doesn't suck.

    OL didn't suck? Really? Colombo was miserable.

    By the way why the **** is John Jerry after Carey on the depth chart?
     
  18. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    I see that you created a Daboll as HC candidate thread, so I refrain from answering, as we're obviously not just a wee bit apart, but apparently lightyears apart. And then some.

    Suffice to say: If you think Daboll called a good game tonight, we're not going to be on the same page in this life.
     
  19. Nappy Roots

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    I like Daboll and his play calling. I would rather him take over as interm coach then Nolan. Nolan has not been good in the least this year. At least Daboll has the firey attitude.
     
  20. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Why must we keep bringing in people who have accomplished nothing? Why not hire people who have been part of winning it all?
     
  21. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    I'd bet good money on the fact that if Dan Henning had been calling the exact same plays tonight, people here would be calling bloody murder. What a difference one name makes.
     
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  22. ckparrothead

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    Boy, the mood around here is pretty dark.
     
  23. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Thanks for trying to warn us before the season started.. Too bad nobody listened
     
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  24. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    Your's any brighter? At least we are who we tought we were :D
     
  25. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    What calls did you dislike so much?
     
  26. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    You mean like Jimmy?
    Saban?
    Parcells?

    Daboll has three Super Bowl rings while on Belichick's staff.
     
  27. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    I'd bet good money against it. ;)
     
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  28. brandon27

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    Jim Schwartz had accomplished nothing but calling a good Defense in Tennessee. He's doing a damn fine job as HC in Detroit. Sometimes you dont have to be a part of winning it all, to be considered as having potential to be a good HC.

    Sadly, Parcells chose to give his buddy Sparano a chance, instead of taking the proven candidate with potential to be a good HC in Rex Ryan. Sadly, Ross couldn't get the deal done with Harbaugh.
     
  29. muscle979

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    We've pretty much tried every approach at head coach and failed. You just try to get the best guy you can find. You don't bring in some buddy like Bill Parcells did.
     
  30. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    If we're into specific calls, let's watch the game again with a clear head and talk then. Suffice to say for tonight, I don't like all the shotgun snaps, I really don't like all the draw plays and I really, really dislike the fact that he usually never attacks the seam (big surprise: when we did with Bess, it resulted in a huge gain; then we just didn't do it again all night long). I like the fact that he's aggressive, but after watching him call plays in Cleveland, I can basically tell you the next play right down to the specific routes just by looking at the presnap motion and formation. It's a really, really dumbed down offense.
     
  31. Jaj

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    It is dumbed though, but heck it's producing fairly well. Mishaps are the prime cause of concern. The draws probably got Miami back in the game. Thomas kicked ***.
     
  32. ckparrothead

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    I wouldn't say NOBODY listened. Just certain people kept disregarding every move I criticized because they tried to say I was only hung up on the QB situation. I tried to tell them no, it's not the QB situation, that's a whole separate issue, and there was no great answer to that situation...I was criticizing the way the off season was unfolding because it deserved criticism, as the team deserves criticism.

    But what can you do? When people stop paying attention to the merits of an argument because they'd like to believe whatever they'd like to believe about the biases of the person in question, there's not much you can do except wait until it's obvious you were right.
     
  33. ckparrothead

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    Actually I hate to say this but if you've seen this coming for a while then yes, I think it does help with the pain of it all. Right now I'm just enjoying the NFL all the way around, all the teams, even though the Dolphins are blowing it.

    But nobody should write any epitaphs yet. The Dolphins just lost to two teams that should be considered the favorites to win their division this year. It means the Dolphins probably aren't a GOOD team, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're a Lucky team, either.
     
  34. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    that's a culture thing isn't it? Everyone has it in the back of their heads, here we go again... Until they snap out of it, it's not going to change.
     
  35. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I just don't see how people can be so disappointed with two games that we were not likely to win. The Patriots... you could have optimism but deep down the odds weren't there. And the Texans? Again, optimism but the odds weren't there. I think a 2-3 record after the Jets game is plausible. I think we can win against Cleveland and sneak a win against San Diego or New York. If I were a betting man, I'd probably bet for a 1-4 start though. Luckily for us, the schedule seems to get a little easier.
     
  36. Finsanity

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    1. Sparano - no aggressiveness as a team.
    2. Nolan Carrol - Why the F is he covering Andre Johnson and not Sean Smith.
    3. Sparano - Im done supporting him. He will never take us to the super bowl.

    I've kept faith in henne and he's has turned the corner this year. If we had a better oline he wouldnt have had that turnover today.
     
  37. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    You're right. It does. On the other hand, being able to say, I told you so, gives me very little pleasure. I might have predicted it, but I sure wouldn't have minded to be wrong.
     
  38. Jaj

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    We're disappointed because if small coaching changes were made, appropriate moves were made, that are not moves in hindsight the team would have been fine. That's why we're angry. We're not second-guessing anything anymore.
     
  39. ckparrothead

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    Exactly.
     
  40. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    No, they weren't there, but that's the issue. At some point (read: year 4) you should be able to win games like this. If we're saying, hey, we can't beat New England and Houston, we might as well call it a season anyway.
     

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