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Wow. We're 0-2 and Henne Looks Great. I Eat the Crow.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by GARDENHEAD, Sep 18, 2011.

  1. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I eat the crow. Henne looks great. He's making great throws and has been virtually mistake-free. He ain't perfect, but he's been damn good.

    Henne. I'm a believer.
     
  2. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Careful... the haters are out in full force on the Henne parade today because they're lookin at the stat line and not the play on the field.

    That being said... he made some real nice throws today. a few bad ones, but nobody is perfect. He still looks well beyond what he looked last year. So that, is a huge positive. If only this team could put it all together for just one game... then again, and again, and again...
     
  3. Bpk

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    Henne was good today. Oline and many other things sucked.
     
  4. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    You're getting whip-sawed on this one.
     
  5. padre31

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    The throw to Gates was a thing of beauty, ditto a couple of tosses to BM.

    I thought he got a concussion on that last run though
     
  6. ckparrothead

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    I wouldn't assign the word "good" to the QB play today. Not even close.

    To say that today's QB performance was "good" would be disrespectful to last week's QB performance, which actually WAS "good".
     
  7. muscle979

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    There has been a lot of outrage over the idea that Henne's performance this week was not as good as last week's. For some reason.
     
  8. brandon27

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    It sure looked like it... If only Marshall had blocked, instead of spectating on the play with a hand on a guy..
     
  9. ckparrothead

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    It's actually pretty normal to be up and down like this. Good week last week, a bad week this week. It happens, even to the very best of them. It's the full balance of the season that is going to write the finishing chapters of the book of Henne, not the fact that he had a down performance after last week's up performance.
     
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  10. keypusher

    keypusher Well-Known Member

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    I watched the play on the field, thank you, and he had some bad moments out there. He looked terrible from the Texans' 15 late with the score 10-16. If that makes me a hater, OK.
     
  11. padre31

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    If folks recall the game situation, Henne was wobbly on the 4th and 1, which may be one reason why they did not go for it, which I felt they should have went for.
     
  12. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Agreed. There was what, 8:30 something left in the game, down 2 scores. I'd go for it as well. I want to see the replay of the play before that 4th and 1 debacle again. Initially as I stated above, Marshall didn't really help out with a block which if he did, that woulda been a first down easily. Looked like he just gave up. I'd love to see it again though to make sure my eyes weren't playing tricks on me.
     
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  13. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    I'm about as big a Henne Homer as there is, but we gotta put points on the board when we hit the redzone.

    It isn't his fault we lost the last two weeks, but we get in the end zone instead of missed field goals and fade passes and those are different ballgames.
     
  14. MIAMIDOLPHINFAN

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    If Marshall doesnt drop that beauty of a pass that dropped right in his hands in the end zone, you guys wouldnt be saying any of that. He played great today. You cant blame the guy for dropped passes. There were at least 4 passes the recievers left out on the field today.
     
  15. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    Where was the Wildcat when you need it? Sarcasm!
     
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  16. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    True, but if Marshall makes that catch thats right in his hands int he endzone, its a much different ball game in addition to those two field goals...
     
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  17. Ricky'sBong

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    I love the low % fade passes down deep. probably my fav part of being a Dolphin fan
     
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  18. padre31

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    Eh, Wr blocking is not usually much of a factor in the success or failure of anything.

    I think Hilliard the FB is not working out well, and think maybe we should dial up Lou Polite as two weeks in a row we had a key short yardage situation and we did not convert it.

    Henne is 6 for 22 on 3rd downs this season, that is job #1 to clean up.
     
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  19. Jaj

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    Miami was crushing them up the middle with Daniel Thomas. I think that should play a part in the red zone.
     
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  20. rdhstlr23

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    I thought he played OK. The red zone inefficiency is still a big problem. However, he threw a ball to Marshall that should have been caught for a TD. The INT was a ball where his RT was just owned.

    However, with those he still played OK. 12/30 is not very pretty.

    I still think he's improved in some areas and he's doing a much better job allowing his players to make plays.
     
  21. ckparrothead

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    And it contribute heavily to bad 3rd down percentage, which is a killer in the NFL.
     
  22. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    Do you know what the average yards for 1st is?
     
  23. Jaj

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    Why are we ignoring the fact that his protection sucks? New England combs their OL to the point that Brady has years to pass. Henne has no time at all. I'm waiting to see if someone will do an OL analysis for this game. I want Nate Garnet to start at RT. Enough of this nonsense. You might have a QB and your OL is getting him killed.
     
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  24. Vertical Limit

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    Henne was good? Um, were you watching the rerun of last week's game? Because he looked like the same average QB we saw last year. He did nothing special and I don't even think he completed 50% of his passes. His TD:INT ratio is starting to balance to last year. And here comes the Browns, the same team he had his worst game of the season last year.
     
  25. Jaj

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    Clearly interceptions from getting hit and throwing desperation passes at end of games are how to evaluate QBs.
     
  26. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    Henne didnt have as good of a game as last week.... but I think today's performance did help confirm the improvements hes made from last year. He is looking deep often and going through his progressions well. And his mobility, both ability to slide in the pocket as well as scramble for yardage, was no illusion either. Redzone offense is still shaky, but I think that will come with more time in this offense, since the redzone offense needs much more precision and precise timing due to the smaller field needing to be defended.

    Henne wasnt the reason we lost today though, and is one of the least of our worries... which is pretty surprising.
     
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  27. Dolphins1Beatles

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    I'd say good, not great. Great QBs can get TDs in the Red Zone. Blame the coaches, which I mainly do, but that still doesn't make him great. After scoring 13 points on offense it's hard to call any of them great.
     
  28. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Henne did not look great today. Anyone who thought that was a great game has very low expectations of QB play. I'd say he looked alright.
     
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  29. TackHammer

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    Y'all actually had me worried for awhile !!!! This game was closer then the score showed. Henne did alright tonight,and y'alls D played Pretty damn good. And I re enforced my hatred of Jason Allen. GOD HE SUCKS!!!
    If you guys can get your O working,y'all will be tough to stop.
     
  30. CaribPhin

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    I can only think of two plays that were actual head scratcher throws.
     
  31. Fintastic

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    LOL, a hater speaks. I was thinking we may not see one. Thanks for your input. Now watch the game next time.
     
  32. Killerphins

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    You put the ball in your stars hands twice, once in the endzone and once in space in single coverage..... yet Henne gets the blame.
    Marshall left two good Henne passes on the field looking away.
    Rule number 1. Catch the god damn football.
     
  33. ckparrothead

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    While the pass protection hasn't been great by any means, it's not been nearly as bad as I feared. You have to keep in mind that a lot of what you're seeing is the result of the changes Daboll has made to the offense. It puts more pressure on the QB to handle pressure than the last offense did.

    Bill Parcells' quote on the Dolphins going up against the Texans today was telling. He said I don't care if it's a video guy or trainers or a water boy going out there, but Mario Williams is not getting near my QB. That's a very Dan Henning-ish comment to make, the two are still very close in their philosophies. But that's not Miami's new philosophy with Daboll. There are more options for Henne, more toys for him to play with and get more yards and make bigger plays, etc...but there's also more pressure on him to deal with pressure.

    In the end, I'm tired of the excuses. I'm tired of how there's always SOMETHING that is just completely not Henne's fault and is a reason he's not putting points on the board. Last week I pointed out that despite Henne being awesome, we're talking about an offense that probably earned about 21 points on their own during the competitive portions of the game. Since when is that good enough?

    I've talked before about how there's a sum-of-parts issue with this offense. I mean look at this game. Brandon Marshall was good. Daniel Thomas was good and the OL opened up holes for him to run through. Chad Henne was good. But the offense scored 13 points? That's not good. So who wasn't good? I think people just look to shift the blame on whoever hasn't been covered, in this case the pass protection, or Anthony Fasano, or whatever...but in reality it's all the guys that we talked about as having been 'good' were most likely mediocre, at best. Except Marshall, I think he was legitimately good and has been legitimately good both weeks and to this point has been our best player and it's not even close.
     
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  34. FinNasty

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    Hey Killer... how about that TD for some YAC?
     
  35. Killerphins

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    Yeah he's a beast. :lol:
    The two big drops were inexcusable when Henne puts both footballs right in his hands. :angry:
     
  36. pacadermng67

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    I think Henne played just OK. I dont believe he held the team down, but he certainly didn't carry it. I shudder to think what the game would have been like without DT.

    That said, you cant expect Henne to carry the team, he clearly is not a Top 5 quarterback so when the ball is put in catchable situations, receivers have to make plays.
     
  37. brandon27

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    While I get your point, I dont see a WR being legitimately good as a WR who drops a TD pass in the endzone thats well thrown, and right in his hands.
     
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  38. Stitches

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    I like Henne, but if we end up poor enough and have a shot at Luck or Barkley, I'm pulling the trigger on one of them.
     
  39. MrClean

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    I can't believe you said that. Good WR blocking is a key ingredient to the success of many many many plays. WRs who cannot or will not block can cause many plays to be a failure, or at least much less successful.
     
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  40. Killerphins

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    And our probowl LT was getting beat by Connor Barwin. Also the RT couldn't block me.... MC stinks.
    DT made plays running north/south which is promising. Carpenter missing chippers and Marshall dropping balls.
    Once again CK Henne is not the problem.
     
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