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Mike Leach

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by JMORGAN6977, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. JMORGAN6977

    JMORGAN6977 New Member

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    Why the hell not???

    Guy is passionate about offense, passionate about winning, and although an unconventional approach, the guy does not like whiners......

    Name another College coach that produced more on offense with so much less than anyone else. Yeah the spurrier argument. Spurrier coached a loaded program and could not game plan to save his life. Don't even compare him to spurrier or saban, or even carroll. Those were PROGRAMS.

    He is unemployed. sign him as a consultant and start working with daboll towards installing the system for the rest of the year. see if Henne can do anything with it. Get a jump start.

    Gates marshall hartline bess all on the field at the same time? Bush or Thomas at RB. Those 4 would force linebackers out of the middle and open running lanes. Sounds fun to me..... Corners would have to cover gates and hartline leaving lb's and safeties on marshall and bess. Then you still have Bush or Thomas.


    Anyway nobody has mentioned him thought I would throw it out there. I just want to be excited about our offense again. Marino and the Marks Brothers excitement.
     
  2. ckparrothead

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    I'd be willing to try him as an offensive coordinator, absolutely.
     
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  3. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Arrggghhhh
     
  4. JMORGAN6977

    JMORGAN6977 New Member

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    I think he would get along great with Rob Ryan. The Tenacity in our coaching ranks would be a complete 180..... Would get a lot of publicity good and bad. Seems like that is what Ross wants most.
     
  5. Stringer Bell

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    Can't see him being able to run the ball or protect the QB well enough unless he changes a lot of his scheme.
     
  6. JMORGAN6977

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    maybe 2 solid o lineman aquisions away from that scheme being perfect for our personnel. I think we have the rb's and wr's, and as we all know the argument on Henne is still not solved. A qb with a quicker release would solve all of the above :)
     
  7. CaribPhin

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    The first time a DC does this to cover a rookie and a somewhat above average receiver consistently, he gets fired the next day.
     
  8. ckparrothead

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    I would prefer Dana Holgorsen to Mike Leach just because Dana tends to be more balanced.
     
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  9. JMORGAN6977

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    Ok, so how would you cover gates and hartline. Both fast and deep threats. Use up both safeties with help over the top? then who has the seem? They will have to defend this offense with nothing less than the nickel. I like DT's chances against nickel and dime packages. I like any of those 4 wideouts covered by a lb.
     
  10. Stringer Bell

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    The problem with the air raid is that so much of the running game is called at the LOS. I would guess that 80% of the time Mike Leach has run the ball as a coach, the play was changed to a run at the LOS.

    Really if you're looking for something close to the airraid in the NFL, you can look at the Pats. They run pretty much the same concepts, but just replace WRs with TEs.
     
  11. Stringer Bell

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    Yes, they would just use a nickel defense. But you're still putting 6 in the box against 5 blockers up front.
     
  12. ckparrothead

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    The one thing that I haven't seen tried yet at the NFL level is the wide offensive line splits.

    I think teams are afraid to try that, they think their QB will get killed. It is definitely sort of a leap of faith to try it out...but the rules are set up so well right now to protect QBs. It would be interesting to see what happens if a team has the balls to try it.
     
  13. JMORGAN6977

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    I agree with you on balance. BUT,

    The Patriots, Saints, and Packers(Somewhat) are pissing on balance.

    Today with the rule changes, it does not make sense not to pass.
     
  14. ckparrothead

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    Yes but I consider Leach to be at the extreme end of things on the running game and I'm not even sure that Leach himself wouldn't be amicable to switching things up at the NFL level. The entire reason he was an innovator is because of how adaptable he is. I don't know that I would assume that the ultimate adaptor, who helped change the way we think about offense and schemes at the college football level simply because he adapted traditional offensive thoughts to the college environment...would for some reason become totally rigid and unadaptable at the NFL level.

    As things stand, Dana Holgorsen has already modified the Air Raid to be more balanced.
     
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  15. ckparrothead

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    And yet Mike Martz is taking flack because he's not balanced enough, and in the wake of this loss to the Bills, so is Bill Belichick.

    You can't be as one-dimensional as Leach was in college. But he was the ultimate adaptor at that level and so maybe he would adapt his own schemes for the NFL environment.
     
  16. JMORGAN6977

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    agreed much better than 7 in the box with a safety cheating up. It does not matter how many te or extra lineman we put out there if they cant block....
     
  17. JMORGAN6977

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    I knew you were going to say that ;P

    I think the pats had an off day and the Bills are truely for real. Martz though, he has not had even close to the talent he possessed in his super bowl season. Thats his problem. He has not had a qb that would actually buy what he is selling.(a mature veteran that is)
     
  18. Muck

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    I was just going to reference this.

    Just can't see it being viable in the NFL. Would seem like suicide.
     
  19. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Holgorsen on South Beach? That would be funny.
     
  20. MikeHoncho

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    Que?
     
  21. KB21

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    The only thing with Leach is that he has an ego bigger than Texas. I'm not sure he would get along with anyone unless he has complete authority over the offense. I'm definitely interested in his passing philosophies though.
     
  22. ckparrothead

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    There's so much that has been tried in the NFL over the last few years that has been successful that people would have swore up and down would never work in the NFL. The Wildcat, for instance, is now a fact of life in the NFL. It's not a one-and-done gimmick that died as soon as it was tried. Everyone is installing it now, everyone. It's just another formation, now. There are a lot of passing concepts that are the same way. I remember when the little bubble screens to WRs on the outside were fairly new in the NFL and it didn't look like they were too effective. But they're among the most common pass plays you see in the NFL today.

    It's a leap of faith but I want to see someone really dive into it, not just stick their toe in the water on it...before I judge whether it's just never going to work in the NFL.
     
  23. CaribPhin

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    They invented the Nickel defense a while ago and that's what'd have to happen. Most coaches would take putting the balls in the hands of a rookie than allowing a QB to throw all over them.
     
  24. jw3102

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    After Saban, I have had enough of college coaches becoming head coaches in the NFL. Also, Spurrier was suppose to be a college coach who could win in the NFL because he was an offensive genius. How did that work out? I do believe Leach should be given another opportunity at the college level, but I just don't see him being a success at the NFL level.
     
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  25. Silverphin

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    I'm torn on this. One one hand, he'd be good shot at OC. On the other hand, I want him in FAU.
     

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