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Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by jpep13, Sep 18, 2011.

  1. jpep13

    jpep13 Coach Of The Year Club Member

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    Join the draft Luck! Dolphins need u. Despite Henne being good this season or not.
     
  2. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Andrew Luck won't help teach fundamentals to the defense.

    Just sayin'.
     
  3. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    True but New Regime wont care as long as they have their QB
     
  4. gamblerx

    gamblerx New Member

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    Even if the Dolphins get the #1 pick, I fear at the possibility that Dolphins passing up on Luck and draft a tackle...
     
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  5. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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  6. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Great QBs can mask a lot of issues though. It's not New England has a world beater defense. The Indy Defense was specifically built to play with the lead because they generally assumed Manning would give it to them or keep it close.
     
  7. ckparrothead

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    If you asked him nicely I bet he would.
     
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  8. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    What about this guy? Not too shabby himself.

    [video=youtube;3-Dg_kDQfbI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-Dg_kDQfbI[/video]

    Getting the #1 overall pick is easier said than done. In 2004 the Dolphins were awful and still somehow managed to beat the defending and future Super Bowl champion Patriots on Monday Night Football, which helped assure us the #2 overall pick rather than #1 overall.

    Barkley is a very good QB prospect.
     
  9. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I'd be perfectly happy with Barkley if we have that poor of a record.
     
  10. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    I think we will be in the mix at the rate were going. Thinking top 5 competing with Indy (wow), KC, Seattle, Minny, and Jacksonville.
     
  11. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    It would take alot of hard work and dedication to out-suck KC right now.
     
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  12. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Without studying their respective schedules, I see these teams ending up with the worst records:

    1. KC
    2. Seattle
    3. Minnesota
    4. Jacksonville
    5. Miami

    Hopefully, we could land Barkley. He's impressed me a lot.
     
  13. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    :bag:
     
  14. gamblerx

    gamblerx New Member

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    Is that Chad Henne?
     
  15. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    It's the board's official "Suckers for Luck" icon.
     
  16. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I am not advocating we tank the season in an effort to get Luck. All I'm saying is that this team sucks and will have a bad record, which will put us in the mix for Luck.
     
  17. ckparrothead

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    Kansas City is interesting. That team actually has some good players and so it's tough to figure out what's going on. There's rumor of a huge feud between Haley and Pioli and Pioli thinks Haley didn't even try to get the team ready to play Weeks 1 & 2. If Pioli feels like Haley is tanking the season for whatever reason, he may be in for a mid-season firing. When that happens, a lot of teams all the sudden start winning and before you know it, you've got like 5 wins or something and that's not going to get you an Andrew Luck.
     
  18. Desides

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    I wouldn't put too much stock in those "what the hell is Haley doing?" reports out of KC. The media there despises Haley and considers him like some strange mix (to use Dolphins history for an analogy here) of Cam Cameron and Nick Saban.
     
  19. jpep13

    jpep13 Coach Of The Year Club Member

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    Not a usc fan, but Barkley is interesting. Although if we say we pick 10-15, we need to move up. New Regime or same.
     
  20. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Easier said than done. Now that there's a rookie wage scale, those first three picks will be almost impossible to obtain through trade. And Barkley will be a top five guy in all likelihood.
     
  21. gamblerx

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    USC quarterbacks were never that great in the NFL. Very few were good like Carson Palmer but only with a very talented WR corp and Miami doesn't have that.
     
  22. ckparrothead

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    I never...never...ever understood this argument. Ever. And I never will.

    College teams change Head Coaches, they change Offensive Coordinators, offensive systems, etc...yet I'm still to believe that somehow, talented QBs get recruited to a school, and because the rays of the sun hit them a certain way at that geography wherever the school is, they're destined to not be good in the NFL.

    Hogwash. Pure hogwash. If a school keeps recruiting well, and that particular school has done a good job recruiting QBs, they're going to turn out a good NFL quarterback.

    And incidentally I think Miami's receivers are excellent.
     
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  23. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Thats because Haley is by all accounts, a gigantic *******.
     
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    I don't think we end up that badly probably 6-10, 7-9 at worst with this team which won't do it. Chad Henne is probably still Miami's QB next year.
     
  25. jpep13

    jpep13 Coach Of The Year Club Member

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    We do need to draft another qb next season some how.
     
  26. jpep13

    jpep13 Coach Of The Year Club Member

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    Maybe Landry Jones or Foles
     
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    What do you think of Barkley as a pre-NFL prospect relative to the guys from last year? Obviously excluding hindsight, I am just speaking as a prospect going into the draft. Would you take 2012 Barkley ahead of 2011 Gabbert? 2011 Newton?
     
  28. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    Landry Jones would be the 2nd choice for me. Wouldn't mind either. Have to take a chance on one.
     
  29. Nappy Roots

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    My interest in Jones has cooled. I've dropped him in my QB rankings a little. I think he's a an overrated prospect.
     
  30. electrolyte

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    If the Colts get Luck and Miami remains with no franchise QB, I will stop watching the NFL for a good while.
     
  31. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Just me or does Barkley remind anyone else of Mark Sanchez? His body type, throwing motion, accuracy all seem similar to me. Dunno. He just makes so many WTF type throws and can be very inconsistent. I don't dislike him, but he's not a guy who you could start from day one and expect to win IMO.
     
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  32. ckparrothead

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    Not just you at all. Very similar players in a lot of ways. Kind of funny how it works out like that sometimes, being from the same school and all. They know what they like to see when they're recruiting.

    I think Matt Barkley is just a little bit less prone to streakiness in his quarterback play. He doesn't have a tendency to shorten himself as much as Sanchez did/does. He's been through more, seen more situations and seems more mature where I think maturity was a problem for Sanchez his first two years, maybe even this year as well, despite Steve Young's gushing over Mark Sanchez "driving the bus" or whatever weird analogy he used. They're both very quick, agile players that can make the first guy to the quarterback miss and buy time.

    But when you get right down to it, Matt Barkley is just a lot more accurate with the football. Aside from the inexperience, that was and continues to be the biggest dig on Mark Sanchez. He can spin the ball when he needs to, though he didn't do it enough in college, but Sanchez never possessed elite accuracy. I think Barkley does.
     
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  33. Caps

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    I've had the same exact thought, it's almost too unfair NOT to happen.
     
  34. Caps

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    But with the new wage scale Luck comes cheap, and if it looks like Manning will never fully recover from this injury, you have to take the best replacement regardless of how much you have tied up at the position.

    Even if Manning came back, he'll be 36 at the start of next season, giving Luck the Rivers/Rodgers treatment wouldn't be the end of the world. If Indy picks first I would be shocked if they don't take Luck.
     
  35. Jaj

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    End of the day if Miami has to take Landry Jones or Matt Barkley that's still a really good scenario. Both are worthy top 10 QBs in the mold of Eli Manning-Phillip Rivers-Big Ben.
     
  36. Anonymous

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    I disagree. No question they take Andrew Luck. They've seen what Peyton Manning has done for that organization. They'll take Luck hoping he'll do the same.
     
  37. alen1

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    They would take Luck. Their OL is not all that great but they took two prospects high last draft and plan on developing them. Plus,they'll probably look to add more in the mid rounds.
     
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    The Colts have built their entire team up around their QB, including their defense..... and because of it they're more dependent on great QB play than any team in the NFL. They'd probably love Luck to carry on the torch.
     
  39. Mrtree

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    The Colts would scoop up Luck so fast your head would spin. And good God what a situation. Sit and learn the game behind a first ballot cerebral hall of famer at the position and then have a young talented stud take over. The Colts wouldn't miss a beat.
     
  40. djphinfan

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    There sure is a lot of dinkin and dunking goin on with that offense, 98 percent of that clip were throws inside 10 yards from the LOS, an inordinate amount imo...He's good yes, but I do worry about his size in terms of his intermediate vision and whether his skillset dictates him playing in a box so to speak, very accurate though with the short stuff, good fundamentals.
     

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