A telling quote

After watching the world cup and the champions league and now watching it again including the Spanish teams Real and Barca, I have a hard time watching the Fins eneptitude and even football seems to be a long commercial.
I get your quote but this team has no leaders and no HC, look at Jim Harbough already 4-1 and to think they called out Ross for talking to Jim.
Sporano got what he deserved

 

The Dolphins play poorly at home because their fans cannot connect with them in their own stadium, and, the players are playing with their own self motivation cause of the fanbases laziness....period..end of story..

How many times does one need to hear that no'one has an explanation as to why we suck at home for them to realize I am right.

 

Because you might not be right.

 

Miami sucks at home because they suck in general IMO.

 

That's part of it, but not all..

 

evidence shows that I might be.

 

We've sucked at home the last two years because we haven't been a good team.

When we've had good teams we have won plenty at home. We were 5-3 there Sparano's first year and only lost the opener to the Jets, and to Baltimore and NE. We then went 4-4 in 2009 but lost to all good teams, Indy, Pitt, NO and Hou.

There is nothing wrong with the stadium that cannot be fixed by simply playing good football.

 

I disagree with people who don't think players can be affected by the perception and actions of a fanbase, and the fact that they play in a stadium that they are not proud of..

 

Gonna be honest with you, if they are worried about what kind of stadium they're playing in, then they're not worrying about the right things. I get they want their money. I get they want to start. I get they want to stay healthy. But I don't get worrying about the stadium.

 

I think people are hard wired to look for explanations. It doesn't even matter whether they're real or not. It's like the news reports after any day when there's a significant move in the stock markets. "The Dow was up today on "yadda, yadda, made up reason news". It's complete B.S., but I think people would rather have an explanation, even a made up or incorrect one rather than no explanation. It's the same thing with our Dolphins. People will look for some quote or event and pretend that this is "the reason" for whatever problem is being discussed. Reality is that there aren't single reasons that explain complex systems.

 

What evidence?

And I notice your stance has gone to "I am right" to "I might be (right)".

 

Exactly. I see plenty of college teams like USF and San Diego State that play pretty well at home with stadiums that are usually only half-filled.

 

''there is nothing wrong with our stadium''................................LOL.................sorry bud had to laugh at that one... keep telling yourself that Schmoot.

 

human nature and the inability to draw energy from your fans...It all helps them play poorly

 

I don't believe that, but if you do, that's fine. However, even if it happens to be true, its a minimal issue IMO.

 

lol..Lets put it this way, I'am 100 percent convinced that there are issues between the players and their fans, and, the players and the stadium they play in..and I'am 100 percent convinced that the negative perception this fanbase now has is partially correlated with the stadium we have for our team..

 

I don't think anyone is saying you're flat out wrong DJ, the question is WHY do you believe that? What REASONS?

 

Actually, the evidence shows that Miami has a tremendous home field advantage when it comes to the weather and the heat. As I have posted in other threads, the Dolphins had won 83% of their games when the temp was greater than 83 degrees through the Houston game. Considering that most of those losses have come since that damn bubble was built, it really shows that the team has abandoned their natural home field advantage. When the Dolphins make changes in the offseason, they need to get someone that will embrace the natural home field advantage this team has over other teams in the league. We practice in this heat, and we should be able to play circles around other teams in this same heat. At least we are supposed to be practicing in that heat. My guess is, the team is in that bubble too often. Like Oronde Gadsden said, there is nothing quite like running a middle drill in 110 degree heat after it has rained with the steam rising off the ground.

 

There is nothing funny about the statement DJ. The stadium has a nice field (particularly now that the Marlins are gone), seats all the way around the field and two scoreboards. It seems a perfectly fine stadium to me.

It might not be as fancy as some of the enwer ones, and lacks the charm of an old classic like Lambeau but there is nothing wrong with the stadium which somehow makes it a disadvantage to the Dolphins. any suggestion otherwise is based on fantasy.

 

for someone who watches college football so much I would think you would realize what it means to play in a hostile environment, and for the players to know that they have that in their pocket..

How bout in the weight room, the practice field leading up to the game, the offseason, A real homefield advantage can motivate all by itself..we have no homefield advantage, stadium doesn't allow it.

 

John Spencer will be an excellent manager , always looked after himself as a player.

Didnt realise he was managing in the MSL , will keep an eye on for those results now

 

why do I believe that?..Its very complex Alen, but Its something that I have been analyzing for over 2 decades...My conclusions are that the stadiums construction and layout is completely inhibiting our fans from making a tangible difference in the emotional intensity inside the building, I believe the stadium all by itself, induces a very passive fan experience, and to me my brother, THAT, is not a healthy situation for a team or a fanbase, and will eventually erode both parties enthusiasm..

 

So........If our players have to have a great environment at home to play well........how is it they play better on the road in a hostile environment, with no support at all?

 

That's fine. But being convinced you're right doesn't mean you have to be so haughty and condescending about it, as if it's ridiculous for someone to disagree.

 

Aaaand here we have a return to the condescending tone and implication that anyone who knows football should know that you're right.

 

Fancy has nothing to do with it.. If you wanna get really deep in my so called fantasy, the configuration keeps the players so far from their fans that the concept of playing in the spotlight does not apply...Players who do not feel the intimacy of their fans, will not play as well as if there was..The objective of a stadium should be built to make your players feel like they are playing in a fishbowl, like every move they make, will be seen..INTIMACY is the foundation of a real homefield advantage....Our stadium provides the antithesis of this..

'Sun life''= ''No life''= Passive behavior= poor performance= poor home record= angry fans= no patience=negativity= unmotivated football players= dissension between fans and players= 1 and 12 at home...

Can a collective group of great players and coaches change all this..I hope so, Its why I keep saying year after year, that its gonna take a special group of athletes to play in this town and in that stadium to achieve a championship..

 

Good question.

And if the answer to the question is how our players feed off the hostile energy and bond as a team within themselves, then the natural conclusion is that Miami's stadium therefore is a great homefield advantage because it detracts from away teams' ability to feed off the hostile energy of the Miami home crowd and bond within themselves.

And so we go on in circles...

 

aaaand your completely flipping my tone into something that was not condescending in any way whatsoever..Alen knows that, so quit trying to start sh%$ man..

 

different dynamic, different approach, different mindset for the athlete..

 

I meant in no way to come across in a condescending fashion, or to demean anyone else's opinion, If I did, I apologize..I was talking out loud on what I feel.

 

If your idea is accurate, then why have teams who play in stadiums that should be much more conducive to homefiled advantage than ours still have horrible stretches?

The Packers were terrible for a long time between Lombardi and Favre, yet they played in Lambeau (sometimes Milwaukee county stadium).

The answer is simple. When the Packers had good teams, they played wel at home. When hey didn't, playing at Lambeau made little difference.

 

how bout the idea that this team plays better on the road in spite of their own situation, subconsciously and consciously.

 

I disagree with that theory, teams come into our house like its a neutral field with no distractions, therefore playing with more looseness and confidence.

 

because I'am not saying that a real homefield advantage and stadium can make a bad team win a superbowl, I'am saying that it can help on many many levels from an organizational aspect, and help each player to play at a higher level, and is conducive to a player reaching their potential...A correctly built stadium can rectify everything I am talking about.

 

absolutely I agree...4 words..orange...bowl...dump..intimacy.

 

So if this Dolphins team played in the Orange bowl what would be happening?

Would Reshad Jones be able to cover somebody? Would Brandon MArshall catch all those passes he dropped? What tangibly would be different about this etam?