Well you could get away from a number of them on the basis that badass heroes are anti-heroes, and with villains we can get away with using The Emporer from Star Wars rather than Darth and the like.
If people are going to deduct points from Vader because of his Anikan past they also have to consider that while he was being a whiney *****, he was nailing and impregnating a queen/senator. Banging royalty is pretty badass in my book, especially when you were the son of a slave. But in the end I went with Maximus. As badass as Vader is he is aided by the force. While the force is a badass thing to have its a thing that is learned by people who are either born with the ability or aren't. So half of having all of that power is just being lucky enough to be born with it. Its the Superman vs Batman argument. Superman is born with his abilities whereas Batman wasn't. Maximus had a tougher road to get to the level of badassness that he achieved. Overall this was a great tournament. I wouldn't have a problem with either of these guys being crowned champion. Like Section I was disappointed with Tony Soprano being knocked out when he was. I was also disappointed with Batman's showing. He was the guy to beat imo.
well I just voted for Maximus... an important vote as it went from 25-24 to 26-24 for Maximus... almost voted for Vader too... they each had their weaknesses... if Maximus was such a badass, he wouldn't have been "caught" near the end of the movie while trying to escape... and then getting stabbed by that puss, he should have seen it coming... but alas, he's ahead of Vader, who would have been nothing without the Emperor... A dependency far beyond any weakness in Maximus' armour...
Maximus didnt care about life or death anymore. Only vengence (In this life or the next) This was tough for me as well because I really like Vader, but Hayden Christansen almost (almost) ruined the character completely for me.
I'm the kiss of death, since I've voted for Maximus, Darth has been voted for FIVE times to Maximus' ONE...
We'll just chant louder Lets Go Vader clap clap clap clap clap Lets Go Vader clap clap clap clap clap
you cannot. No one remembers what Maximus looks like. Try to do that with Maximus and people would just say, "Umm some greek guy?"
Sorry; didn't find it until today. I was actually having a hard time deciding (b/c Lee didn't make it ), but once I saw that, my vote cemented.
Vader killed his own wife, got killed by his own son. Vader was born into slavery, freed from slavery, only to become the Emperor's slave B***** And the guy was a loser, barely ever won anything but a pod race. Couldn't defeat Dooku the first time, got his burnt *** handed to him by Obi Wan, Obi Wan gave him a freeby on the Death Star, couldn't blow up Luke's X-Wing, fought Luke to a draw, before ultimately losing to him the next time. He could only defeat those who were weaker, like little Jedi kids. Not badass at all. Maximus indirectly killed his wife and son, only to be enslaved, but was never anyone's B**** His badassness was pure revenge, and he always won. And no one ever called him Maxie. I know it is too late, and I betray my Star Wars fanboy heritage, but Maximus is the Badass here. EDIT: From the thread it sounded like Vader was killing it. Woohoo, Maximus trails by 1.
Yes, well, you see, that's only b/c the advances in modern medicine and society-at-large have allowed a segment of the population ('geeks', 'nerds' and 'dorks') that would normally be pared down or totally removed due to natural selection to flourish and in the present day overcome and outnumber the 'warrior class' that would have normally been in the majority. Thus, Darth Vader has become an Icon of supreme evil and badass-ness, while the TRUE badasses like Conan, Maximus and Bruce Lee have been forgotten by the masses and relegated to 2nd tier (or worse) status. Yes, I know; it is a shame. But this is the world we live in.... Warriors are no longer thought of as heroes; they are 'barbaric' and 'out-of-touch'. Or the have 'anger management issues' and are not 'sensitive'. Superman has been thrown away- and in his place?? Peter farkin' Parker! (as played by Tobey MacGuire ) Thankfully, there are still those that have fought back against the ideals of the Lucas' and Roddenberry's of the world. They have given us such manly men as Maximus, Wolverine, Tony Jaa, and the Scorpion King. Men who would crush your skull just as soon as give you the time of day. No sissy robotic aids, no weeny super-mystical 'force powers', no 'every alien is the galaxy is nice-just misunderstood' BS. You wronged me?? I kill you. You're bad?? I kill you. You get in my way?? I kill you too. It's that simple. WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED???? Answer: Nothing. So let's all take a page from the Warrior Handbook *yes, there IS such a thing* and the next time you see some idiot fan-boy raving about how badass Darth Vader or The Borg is, rip out his spine and feed it to him with a side of 'beaten with your own leg'. This will serve as notice to all those who have forgotten who the REAL badasses are. That's right- they are You- The Warrior. *This ends your public service announcement on behalf of WCRS, the Warrior Coalition for the Rehabilitation of Society. (Commonly known as "Wackers".) Thank you for your time.*
Maximus? Another long list of "badasses" that wouldn't of done the right thing, unless it was for a lady. A man who would just be wallowing in mediocrity until some woman until some woman kicked him in the butt and told him what to do. Darth Vader did try to save his woman, however to do so he killed a whole mess of Jedi's and then killed her for not being thankful enough. Darth Vader, someone who unlike Maximus is not P-whipped.
I hope you were kidding. Maximus was Romes greatest general..and had not seen his wife since he left to conquer germania. The guy had never seen Rome till he was brought in as a slave gladiator.
if he was P-whipped he wouldnt have been the army knowing he would be away from that "P" for possibly years (which he was)......also if he was really P whipped.....he wouldve banged ceasers daughter multiple times....she was all over his nuts, but he didnt cause he was a badass and a gentlemen.....vader is a dildo
MAXIMUS! MAXIMUS! MAXIMUS! MAXIMUS! MAXIMUS! Vader is just a big ol puss! He should have killed Luke but he didn't because he is a Puss!
Vader killed a whole mess of unsuspecting Jedi children, but when matched up against his "equals" the guy always lost. Maximus took on the best Gladiators of his time, in a game that was rigged for him to lose, while tigers were trying to eat his face, and he won every single time.
including while chained to someone else.....oh and he was in a friggin WAR.....he had enemies coming from all angels, never hesitated and never got taken down.......oh and he escaped from 2 soldiers (his own men) who were about to cut off his head, and took out a guy speeding at him on a horse......the only army vader took down was a bunch of kids...and hes a panty-waste who cries alot like a *****
Guys...the main BADASS BRACKET thread has an updated first post with all the results of all the matchups.
Vader is hampered by Americans need for a happy ending! He also didnt lose to Obi Wan in a New Hope. He also beats Luke, cuts off his hand and offers him a chance to join the Dark Side. Luke jumps to his possible death instead. 2 wins for Vader against equals imo. And lets us not forget, he did kill the Emperor too.