1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

New Practice Rules Effect On Phins?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Southbeach, Oct 16, 2011.

  1. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

    4,154
    1,218
    0
    Aug 22, 2010
    http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/sto...ice-changes-could-negatively-impact-nfl-games

    I was watching Sparano earlier, and he said the team took their one exemption of the year to practice in pads twice this week. I did not realize that teams can only practice once in pads every week. I'm sure this had something to do with bad blocking, missed tackles, and has to have a negative impact on this team. I know it's the same for everyone but, everyone is not the same.

    Our OL is a good example. Long had no pre-season, Cog is a very physical player, Pouncey a rookie, Carey a ne position, and Columbo a new player. In the past 3 years, with the revolving OL, we still managed to gel quickly and block pretty well. Not so this year. I would think others are affected as well.
     
  2. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

    99,377
    37,301
    0
    Nov 22, 2007
    inching to 100k posts
    No, I tend not to think that is the issue SB, after all Pouncey is playing just fine and he is a Rook.

    I do think what has happened is the players took the extra time off (especially the defensive players) and got soft, but this is week #10 of football action including Camp, they should be in shape now, the real problem has been ILB/FS/Cb not knowing their assignments.
     
  3. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

    4,154
    1,218
    0
    Aug 22, 2010
    Pouncey has played very well on the run and screen block. Not so in pass protect, which is true of everyone.

    I agree with you on the D Padre. However, I can see some having needed more practice in pads to get ready, and they did not get it.

    It's not just been us. I can't recall so many missed tackles, missed blocks, and being out of position by the league as a whole.
     
  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,650
    67,540
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    Its the coaches fault for not instilling the discipline in them to construct their own private group outings this offseason...disgusting, thinking that they only have part time jobs..
     
  5. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

    99,377
    37,301
    0
    Nov 22, 2007
    inching to 100k posts
    Here is my take:

    -Dansby was moved to the Mike ILB to replace Crowder, Dansby has never played the Mike before
    -Burnett was inseted at the Moe ILB, where he has not played, and he has to learn Nolan's system, he has never played in it before
    -Free Safety ideally will get everyone lined up, oops, we have Now Show Jones at FS
    -Vontae's hammy made him ineffective for the first two weeks, so they rested him and inserted Nolan Carrol, who has not started, and his immaturity means they cannot flip Cb, just like what happened in 2009.

    Coupled with the normally excellent De's being out of shape, and we have the perfect storm of crappiness on Defense.

    On offense, Colombo has been dreadful, Carey learning OJT and Sparano is refusing to sub in guys like Garner or Cook, Bush dinged his groin, and DTrain his hammy, and suddenly our 4 deep Rb corps is down to Lexxy (whom Sparano refuses to chances to touch the ball) and Slaton, who was a street FA.

    The Bye week came at a perfect time for us, no other way to put it.
     
  6. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

    4,154
    1,218
    0
    Aug 22, 2010
    We did have the lockout workouts led by Long and Henne. Don't know who was there or if they did anything in pads DJ.

    I can't put this on the coaches. They had no idea how practice would change until the new CBA was signed.

    I have a question for anyone who played football. You wear equipment, which weighs 25-30 pounds. If you only get to practice with that additional weight once a week, how, if at all, does that does that affect you on game day? I would have to think it would but, do not know for sure.
     
  7. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

    7,975
    1,869
    113
    Sep 27, 2009
    Roanoke, Virginia
    So this rule effects us in a negative way but not all the other teams. Nah. We just suck.
     
    NaboCane likes this.
  8. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

    31,949
    11,899
    0
    Nov 24, 2007
    That makes too much sense, dude.

    Cut it out.
     
    Puka-head likes this.
  9. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

    7,975
    1,869
    113
    Sep 27, 2009
    Roanoke, Virginia
    I've been accused of that quite a bit the last few seasons :shifty:
     
  10. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    23,681
    44,611
    113
    Dec 11, 2007
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Remember, Sparano had "plans for every scenario" for this season. He was ready.
     
    padre31 likes this.
  11. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

    4,154
    1,218
    0
    Aug 22, 2010
    "I know it's the same for everyone but, everyone is not the same."

    This is what I posted if you had read the OP. :)
     
  12. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Well-Known Member

    2,148
    1,398
    113
    May 3, 2010
    Hard to argue against this point when the defense gives up 307 ypg passing and opposing QBs have a 105.4 QB rating and allowing teams to convert 43.4% of 3rd downs.

    However, our DL haven't done their job either of making plays...only 6 sacks (Wake 3, Mitchell 1, Taylor 1, Jones 1)...not a single sack from our DL making the Dolphins the only team that doesn't have a sack from a member on the DL.
     
  13. dolphan197

    dolphan197 New Member

    178
    54
    0
    Oct 8, 2009
    West Virginia
    31 other teams play with this same rule and do just fine
     
  14. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,650
    67,540
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    if their {our coaches} team, isn't in as good as shape as other teams are, than yes, it is their fault... if thats what were saying here, that conditioning and unorganization is partly responsible..
     
  15. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

    99,377
    37,301
    0
    Nov 22, 2007
    inching to 100k posts
    Exactly, this season, falls directly on his shoulders, for better or worse, this was not completely unforseeable, he made the changes he wanted to make, got several new players, and a new offense, it is on him to make it work or get fired.

    This is one of the reasons why I'm witholding judgment until after the Broncos game, they will have had these guys since August, through late October, if he has not produced what he set out to produce, it is time for Coach Sparano to go after the season.
     
  16. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

    7,975
    1,869
    113
    Sep 27, 2009
    Roanoke, Virginia
    Well to answer the question then. No, this rule has little to do with why we suck. We just suck.
     
  17. DeDolfan

    DeDolfan Premium Member Luxury Box

    19,406
    10,985
    0
    Nov 23, 2007
    Rehoboth Beach
    That's once per day, not once a week. No more 2-a-days
     
  18. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,650
    67,540
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    his career comes down to Tebow day..I would want Nolan to take over if he can't get it done..It will be to humiliating if he continued, and it would get to ugly.
     
  19. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

    99,377
    37,301
    0
    Nov 22, 2007
    inching to 100k posts
    Disagree, we lose to the Jest and Broncos you still let him finish out the season.

    And the way I see it, the next two games are for the season, the last 3 pretty much are where Sparano will have to show he can win important games, in Buffalo, in NE, and Jest at home.
     
  20. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

    4,154
    1,218
    0
    Aug 22, 2010
    Once a day for camp, once a week during the season.
     
    DeDolfan likes this.
  21. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

    4,154
    1,218
    0
    Aug 22, 2010
    How is promoting a DC, who has the worst rated D in the NFL, any better? IF we had a coach who had a shot at the job next year, I would agree with you but, there is nothing even remotely close.
     
  22. NorFlaFin

    NorFlaFin Active Member

    Every team in he NFL had the exact same "New Practice Rules".

    They are one game away from quitting.
     
  23. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,650
    67,540
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    if Sparano loses to the broncos while most of the stadium is cheering Tebow, it becomes damage control at that point, I'am sure if they lose that game and nothing is done by the owner, then there sure will be even more backlash from the pockets of the fans..I don't think it would be healthy at all to keep him on, and with absolutely no purpose..With Nolan being promoted, you stop the vitriol temporarily,and obviously provide a new voice to a team that will not listen to the current one..Thats if they lose that game.
     
  24. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

    27,269
    44,474
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    NC
    What category are we the worst rated D?
     
  25. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

    99,377
    37,301
    0
    Nov 22, 2007
    inching to 100k posts
    I doubt it, let the stadium do what it will, if we lose to the Broncos and Jest, the season is pretty much ovah, firing Sparano half way through it after the Harbaugh fiasco would only make Ross look even more incompetent.

    If they stick with Sparano, and take their lumps, he can be fired in the offseason as is the normal course of business, which it seems to me to be what Ross wants.
     
  26. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

    4,154
    1,218
    0
    Aug 22, 2010
    Overall from PFF
     
  27. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    10,265
    7,907
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Coconut Grove
    Not even if Shula were to come back as the interim coach would it make a difference. He would run these spoiled princesses into the ground and it would cause them to have no energy left to play on Sunday.
     
  28. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,650
    67,540
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    While I'am cognisant of how it looks to future coaching prospects if Ross was to fire Sparano after game 6, I just don't know how much either side will be able to take if he loses that game.
     
  29. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

    99,377
    37,301
    0
    Nov 22, 2007
    inching to 100k posts
    Which is sort of the end of the story though Deej, this whole season has been on rails for months now, we just have to ride it out to the next station.

    Win or lose.
     
  30. DeDolfan

    DeDolfan Premium Member Luxury Box

    19,406
    10,985
    0
    Nov 23, 2007
    Rehoboth Beach
    Right, my bad. but even still, it doesn't give any particular team any advantage tho.
     
  31. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

    2,593
    2,335
    113
    Jan 4, 2009
    Savannah, GA
    No rule has affected this team. However, one thing has had a direct effect on this teams practice and that is the practice bubble.

    The team was well conditioned and tougher before Saban brought the bubble. We never used to be out conditioned. Now we are as bad as a dome team when we play outside.
     
  32. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

    4,154
    1,218
    0
    Aug 22, 2010
    Coaches, former coaches, players, former players, and analysts have all said differently during the lockout, and after it. Teams not making changes, with limited time, have an advantage over those who did. Players not needing a lot of all out practice time have an advantage over those who do.

    For me, this is just common sense. All teams and players are not the same. Some needed the extra time, which they did not get this year.
     
  33. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

    4,154
    1,218
    0
    Aug 22, 2010
    We had the bubble last year, and almost each and every player played better than this year. Sorry to pop your bubble on this but, it did not matter.
     
  34. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

    22,422
    9,819
    0
    Nov 27, 2007
    DC Metro Area
    lethargy takes time! as time goes by, contributions become prevalent!
     
  35. DeDolfan

    DeDolfan Premium Member Luxury Box

    19,406
    10,985
    0
    Nov 23, 2007
    Rehoboth Beach
    But it would not be the rule but the players/teams themselves.
     
  36. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

    7,760
    3,486
    113
    Sep 4, 2010
    Maui, Hawaii
    I guess these new rules are are only effecting teams with losing records, like the Dolphins. Because I certainly don't hear the winning teams complaining about the new practice rules. This is merely another excuse for Sparano. In fact, right before the season, he held a press conference in which he stated how happy he was with his team and predicted the Dolphins would win, whether fans supported them or not. I didn't notice him complaining about the new practice rules at that press conference.

    This is a badly coached team with a severe lack of talent overall. That is the problem with the Dolphins. Not the new practice rules implemented with the new collective bargaining agreement.
     
    DeDolfan likes this.

Share This Page