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Jon Gruden

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by cobrajet, Oct 18, 2011.

  1. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Anyone else think that Gruden is a Dolphin fan? His comments in the game were clearly on the side of the Dolphins. and all of his comments were logical too. It's a shame he can't be our next coach. You can tell that he has a passion for this team.
     
  2. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    I've read nothing that suggests to me that his contract with ESPN will prevent him from taking an NFL job.
     
  3. arsenal

    arsenal Sunglasses and advil

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    i thought he was leaning towards the Dolphins a bit also...
     
  4. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    The telecast was pro-Dolphin last night....they want chaos in New Jersey...
     
  5. fin13

    fin13 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He just felt sorry, we have a bad team, after watching the game I'm sure he'll stay with ESPN
     
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  6. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    He was a little cagey with the the ESPN contract extension conversations with his co commentators.
    I dont think he is closing the door to other opportunities.

    BTW He did mention that Luck may decide to stay at Stanford.
     
  7. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    I hope so, since he`ll be roaming our sidelines befor too long.
     
  8. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    In all the S for L chaos thats been brewing this is still a valid option for him. Some people think its etched in stone that he`s entering the draft.
     
  9. PhinishLine

    PhinishLine Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Whether Luck comes out or not. Landry Jones and a regime change is still an attractive option. Its not Luck or nothing folks.
     
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  10. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    It's really not a 50/50 chance that Luck enters the draft. The probability of Luck returning to Stanford is not good because he will be graduating from Stanford with his degree (that was so important to him) and the only reason he'd stay is to chase a National title. I don't see him passing the opportunity at the next level for a collegiate title.

    If I had to put a number on it, I'd probably say it's 90/10 that he enters the draft.
     
  11. NJFINSFAN1

    NJFINSFAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I thought he was talking up the Jets pretty good, not us.
     
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  12. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    He needs to read ESPN's blogs more. Luck told (IIRC) ESPN's PAC-10 blog that he's coming out. He's graduating and has done all he wants to at Stanford.
     
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  13. JimToss

    JimToss Thank You Chad Pennington

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    The commentators had to talk up the Dolphins.
    They had to give them credit so people stayed tuned in. Lead people to believe that the Dolphins could come back to make it a game. We as Dolphins fans knew better and it was torturous to keep watching.
     
  14. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    I agree he probably will enter the draft and its a small possibility that he wont, but the way things have been going for the Dolphins I wouldnt be surprised if we land the #1 pick and STILL dont get him.
     
  15. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    He also mentioned he might enter the draft last year.
     
  16. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    I think Gruden wants to be the HC of the Phins next season. The contract he signed with ESPN was smart on his part, because...you never know with Ross. He's already proven to be wishywashy with his pursuit of Harbaugh last season. I think Gruden is just making sure he has all of his options available to him. From what I understand....once he starts the new contract next season...he has to finish it out. But he has from Jan on to look at his HC options.

    Further more....you know what I would do if I were Ross.

    Id fire Sparano today, and bring in someone to be the interim HC for just this season. Not so much to win games, but to reestablish a culture of excellence that has been missing for a long, long time. Actually...missing since he was unceremoniously replaced. Thus bringing him back would reverse that curse. Im talking Don Shula. I think it would be great for the young players on the team to be around him for the rest of the season. He obviously wouldnt want to coach any more then that...but I think it sends a message to the fans, and to the team. The change starts now. A new coach like Gruden will be hired....but to lay a solid foundation, to restore some dignity, and pride. Why not let Shula take this ship to port, and do in in an honorable way.
     
  17. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Based on last nights performance.....Gruden knows his price just went way up. talk about leverage!
     
  18. fins4o8

    fins4o8 Mac FTW!

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    If we are going to SFL then we must keep Sparano until the end of the season. Getting an interim & the players might rally behind him to win a few games & mess up our chances.
     
  19. gamblerx

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    Gru. Can I call you "Gru"? Gru, just let go. Jon Gruden is not coming.
     
  20. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    I will believe that Gruden is going to be in Miami until someone else gets hired.
     
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  21. gamblerx

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    Really, you guys think that Standford has a shot for the BCS championship title with those players they got? They will never get that shot. Just scratch that off. Plus, after graduating with a degree, what classes is he going to take during his final year of eligibility?
     
  22. gamblerx

    gamblerx New Member

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    Well, as fan of Jon Gruden, might as well join you with this ideal.
     
  23. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea who the next Dolphin coach will be and I have questions about every candidate that's been brought up. But if I had to say which candidate I thought was the most likely hire, I would say Gruden. I think he fits what Ross wants in terms of star power, resume and likelihood of having an exciting and/or innovative offense. And I think he's young enough that he's likely to want to re-enter the coaching ranks again.
     
  24. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Gruden has a past with David Shaw, Stanford's new Head Coach now that Harbaugh is gone. I have no doubt that Shaw would love very much for Andrew Luck to stay for his 5th year of eligibility. But Andrew Luck himself has indicated multiple times that he's heading into this season with the mindset that it is his last as a Stanford Cardinal. That doesn't mean he can't change his mind, of course. But I don't see what the motivation would be for Luck to change his mind and stay in school another year. He's always said that he wants to come out of Stanford with his degree in hand, and that is why he stayed in school this year. But he's getting his degree now...so why would he stay another year? Maybe to start working on his Masters, but unless he can finish it then that doesn't make much sense to me.

    As for Jon Gruden's new contract with ESPN, I think this was a power play by ESPN. I notice the new terms of the contract don't kick in until after the 2012 season starts. Whatever language they may have negotiated into the contract to try and discourage him from leaving for a coaching job, doesn't kick in until AFTER he makes the decision this off season on whether to get back into coaching or not. My guess is ESPN knows that there's a decision looming this off season, and what they're trying to do is lock him up IF he decides to turn down the Dolphins and any other team this off season, so that they're not constantly playing the "Will he, won't he" game every off season. If he stays in broadcasting after this off season, then he stays with ESPN for 5 years. Monday Night Football is big, big money...and he's the star of Monday Night Football (it sure isn't Jaws or Tirico). They can't keep having that kind of uncertainty every year.
     
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  25. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    My first choice for the next Dolphin head coach is Cowher. Gruden would be my second choice if Cowher takes another coaching job or decides to stay in the broadcast booth. I think if Gruden actually wants to get back into coaching, Ross would certainly be willing to make him an offer it would be very difficult to turn down. The main question with both Cowher and Gruden is, do either of them really want to get back into coaching again? They are both making quite a bit of money doing what they are doing right now and perhaps they just don't want to deal with the constant grind of being an NFL head coach again. Time will tell.
     
  26. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    He.is.Graduating.
    Its not rocket science people. He is not coming back to Stanford.
     
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  27. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    w/UnderGraduate degree....not saying anything other then Grad School is available. he is not without valid arguments to make a point if he doesnt like the NFL destination.
     
  28. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    And he decided to graduate. Guess what, he's graduating.

    He's accomplished all he intended to at Stanford. I don't know why so many people have trouble with this.
     
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  29. DePhinistr8

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    Because he still has another year of eligibility to play for one more year after this one.
     
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  30. DePhinistr8

    DePhinistr8 Season Ticket Holder

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    He can if he wants to. He's an academic senior, but he is a redshirt junior in terms of his NCAA eligibility. He can play one more year in college after this season.
     
  31. thisperishedmin

    thisperishedmin Well-Known Member

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    Dat contract!
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  32. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    I guess you didn't read the rest of my post. Whether or not he still has eligibility is separate from whether or not he'll use it. And he won't for reasons he's stated.
     
  33. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    he really has nothing to gain by staying, imo.
     
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  34. DePhinistr8

    DePhinistr8 Season Ticket Holder

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    Leverage..if he wants to use it. He can stamp his ticket where he wants to go.
     
  35. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    I predict he declares...sees the team that has #1, and immediately uses his people to say he wont sign unless the pick is traded, or he states if the team that has #1 is still going to pick him, he will use Grad School an Stanford as leverage.

    Easily an option...and thats all it takes to force his hand.
     
  36. DePhinistr8

    DePhinistr8 Season Ticket Holder

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    I didn't say whether he will or won't...but he can if he changes his mind. I don't think he will go back to Stanford either, but if he doesn't like what he see with who is drafting no.1, he can certainly go back.
     
  37. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Yep. David Shaw was the Quality Control coach in Philly when Gruden was the OC there.
     
  38. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Or he can threaten to go be an engineer or re-enter the draft. Basically, just like any other player ever, he can refuse to sign with the team that drafts him. Or like with any expected first overall pick he can threaten to refuse to sign with the team that has the right to make that first pick. I don't see the remaining eligibility thing as important. If we have the first overall and he does not want to sign here then there will always be a reason.
     
  39. DePhinistr8

    DePhinistr8 Season Ticket Holder

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    100% true...but the going back to school thing makes him look less like Eli :)
     
  40. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    Luck has more to lose by going back than he does to win by coming out. He is at the pinnacle right now as the number one quarterback in college football and with the highest probability of being drafted #1. He could go back for one more year and risk an injury to end his career or to diminish his draft status. He would also risk maybe having a less than stellar final year, much like Marino did at Pitt , or some other quarterback having a great season and becoming the next best thing. In either event his draft status could slide and he would loose the status and money of the #1 draft choice. Would he risk that by going back for one more year?
     

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