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How about this Gruden?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by BicketyBam, Oct 20, 2011.

  1. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Hey. It is a very interesting though. It would definitely fit the out of the box thinking I want. Plus, he has had success as a head coach, albiet in an alternate league. He's done a heck of a job with Andy Dalton in Cincinnati.
     
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  2. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    Every great coach had to start somewhere. If I were in your position, I would prefer a choice like this as opposed to a retread like Cowher or Jon Gruden. He's at least worth an interview.
     
  3. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    I just read that Jay Gruden was hired on Feb 3, 2011. Was this after Daboll was hired? How did Jay Gruden not get serious consideration for Miami's OC position? Did Daboll's 30th ranked offense with Cleveland wow Ross right out of his pants?
     
  4. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Seriously asking that? This front office is horrible, they don't aquire good talent just damaged goods for the most part.
     
  5. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    lol...this thread cracks me up..
     
  6. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    He's a football junkie just like his brother.

    Jay Gruden played/coached for the Predators in the springs and then coached under his brother in Tampa in the autumns. Jay was basically 'in season' all year around. IIRC, he was the head coach/starting quarterback simultaneously for a brief period with the Predators (after the head coach died).

    Here's a guy who transitioned from successful player to successful head coach, back to successful player and back to successful head coach again. I think that has served him well as an offensive guy and it's showing in his handling of the Red Rifle in Cincy.

    Gruden's an outside-the-box guy and he's still only 44.

    We could do worse.
     
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  7. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    I wish the Jets had sh!tcanned Schottenheimer after last season and hired this guy. From everything I've read, he sounds like a great football mind.
     
  8. Caps

    Caps Movimiento Juvenil

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    Funny how one year ago he wasn't good enough to be Miami Hurricanes HC and now he's a serious contender for the Dolphins.

    That said I would be happier with him as HC than most other options.
     
  9. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    I'd pass at this point. I'd wait a couple years with him. Although I really like how he's handled Dalton. But that offense is 22nd in yards and 16th in points. Obviously things you have to take into account, but you also have to consider their schedule of Browns, Broncos, 49ers, Bills, Jags and Colts. Their 4-2 because Zimmer and that D. Not so much Gruden and that O. Although I do like somethings he's done. I just don't think he's their just yet.
     
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  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I want Zimmer to get an interview..I really like how his players play for him, and how he coaches.
     
  11. gilv13

    gilv13 Well-Known Member

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    The Miami Dolphins need to hire Gruden as their head coach.

    The Jacksonville Jaguars need to hire Gruden as their head coach.



    lol.
     
  12. gilv13

    gilv13 Well-Known Member

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    I am on this bandwagon if we can't land the big 3. I think he might surprise some people in the right situation.
     
  13. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Give me Chudzinski over Gruden any day of the week if we're going to hire a first time HC.
     
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  14. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't know, did he ever coach for the Cowboys? I think we should be sure to look at the Cowboys for more players/coaches, they've been so successful since Jimmie Johnson left we should be trying to emulate everything they do.
     
  15. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Both would be on my list. The difference between the two is that Gruden does have head coaching experience. Chud has won championships as a player and assistant coach while Jay has won championships as a player, assistant coach, and head coach.

    My short list:

    Jon Gruden
    Jay Gruden
    Rob Chudzinski
    Pete Carmichael Jr.
    Urban Meyer
    Marc Trestman
     
  16. gamblerx

    gamblerx New Member

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    Still with the Jon Gruden campaign...
     
  17. SICK

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    Urban Meyer?!? You think he'd transition to the NFL ? Although I'd like to see what he could do with RG III
     
  18. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    I don't see how he would transition to the pro game. Although Brantley isnt a great QB, he was one of the best passing recruits when Meyer got a hold of him and Meyer couldnt adjust his offense to suit Brantely. He basically stuck with the offense Tebow ran, which was the opposite of what he should of done. Besides, Meyer doesnt want this stress....
     
  19. jinx

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    The offense Meyer ran at Utah with Alex Smith was certainly more pass heavy than the one he ran with Tebow at Florida. He can adapt. That said, I would prefer to stay away because of the burnout factor. I'm in the go with the young up and comer group. We've been down the Cowher/Fisher/Gruden road. Time to think outside the box.
     
  20. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    It was the exact same offense and what do you mean "certainly more pass heavy"? Tebow passed more in College then Alex Smith.
     
  21. Phyl

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    I'm a Gator fan/alum. Urban's offense does not adapt. Last year was a complete joke (partially because he didn't give two ****s for the entire season) and he wasted everyone's time because he was too stubborn and decided to take a traditional dropback QB and force him to play the read option/spread as if he was another Tebow. Furthermore, without once in a generation talents of Tebow/Harvin, the offense was stymied by SEC defenses. Even Tebow's last season was a struggle because he tried to make it work and without a second elite playmaker to keep the defense honest (I'm excluding Aaron Hernandez here), the team struggled to move the ball. Everyone knew that 3/4ths of the playbook was Tebow left and Tebow middle. I also didn't like that Urban very obviously played favorites and kept more talented people on the sidelines because he didn't like them or they didn't practice well regardless of their actual ability on the field. The fact Andre DeBose almost never saw the field last year and he was probably our biggest playmaker was a freaking joke.
     
  22. SICK

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    So.......................your saying you don't like Meyer to be our coach then?
     
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  23. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Well that's the tl; dr version...
     
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  24. alen1

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    I think he could translate.
     
  25. MikeHoncho

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    If you liked Saban, you're gonna love Meyer. I'd rather just promote whoever is in charge of the STs than bring in that guy.
     
  26. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    I would rather have Saban than Meyer who is one of the most overated college coaches out there .Yes he won a national championship with the likes of Tebow,Harvin,Hernandez ,Spikes but once those talented players left he was exposed .The spread will not work in the SEC with the likes of Alabama and LSU in the conference .It only works in weaker conferences.

    He quit for a reason .He he could not top what he has done up to this point IMO .

    He doesnt have the character to be an NFL coach IMO.
     
  27. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Meyer. I don't want that piece of **** douche coaching this team. I'd rather fail with someone who actually has a chance. Meyer has none. He will NEVER pan out in the NFL. And it's not only that crap offense either. Grown men won't put up with him and his ego for too long. Happened to Gruden. Happened to Mangini. Happened to McDaniels. Not to mention, I doubt he has the mental capacity capable of the NFL grind. And I'd rather not field a team full of criminals either.
     
  28. felly smarts

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    I hate Omar Kelly!!
     
  29. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    He also won a NC with the likes of Chris Leak and Deshawn Wynn. Just sayin.
     
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  30. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Meyer would not go pro. He almost stressed himself to death at Florida, what do you think will happen in the pros?
     

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