Ran out of bounds on a sure td run... Qbs fault. Dropped a number of tds in the endzone... Werent thrown into all ten fingers: QBs fault.
A dropped pass is a dropped pass! They happen to the best Wr's in the game. As a matter of fact they happen quite often to the better Wr's because they get targeted so many times. You can also TRY to point out that they hit Marshalls hands all you want. It does not mean they were easy catches JUST because they hit the hands of the Wr and saying that you know football so well, you should understand that! Especially the most recent dropped pass in the endzone against the Jets. That was no easy catch whatsoever. The ball was thrown to the one spot is should not have been. It gave Marshall a split second to get his mitts on it. Maybe that's the part that is beyond you because I'm not quite sure how you or anyone with a level head TOWARDS Marshall can sit there and say it hit his hands, he should catch it. Ball placement is a key part of the the Qb to Wr game and I'm not saying Marshall is blame free because there are absolutely 4 balls that hit his hands that he should have caught. The Qb, imo, placed the ball in a good enough spot that he should have caught them. So there is no double standard to me. However, the Qb is the absolute, most important part of the offense, so yes, he gets more of the blame than anyone on offense if the passing game is not producing as it should. Especially when that offense has good weapons. As to your last paragraph. I 100 percent agree that Marshall needs to play better. He can and should when it is near the endzone but I will also point out that the play calling has been anything close to great inside the redzone and the offensive line needs to give ANY Qb just a little more time down there. Just so the passes don't have to be quick and in some cases forced into a zone coverage that barely has to move before the throw comes out.
How many great Qb's do you see in pee wee leagues and in high school though? The part in bold is just wrong. There are so many scenarios that a high school coach would come right back to the Qb and tell him off because of a drop. Even if it hits the hands of the Wr. Of course they may also go to the Wr and tell him he should have caught it but at that level, its all about TEACHING the players as individuals.
If the pass was thrown correctly on the slant we would be talking about how Brandon Marshall won the one on one battle with the best corner in the game.
Why is it that we find 100 excuses why its not Marshalls fault when he drops a ball? Yet anyone coming to henne's defense is stupid? I like Marshall, but he isnt producing like a top ten receiver, period. I dont see how anyone can say he is, but to each his own. Elite is ralative to teh league they play in, there are top qbs in pee wee through the nfls, some are just better than others. And no the coach may tell the qb that the pass should be out front more, lower etc but will jump on a receiver that lets through 2 hands that are not outstretched, and his body is not contorted for not making that catch, it is just folly to suggest otherwise. If you are an NFL top ten receiver that means you are one the ten best in teh world, that means you catch that ball more than you miss, especiually td passes. If Marshall needs a perfect pass everytime, he isnt elite. Any NFL reciver will catch the MAJORITY of perfect passes.
ah i see it the ol falback, qb is most important position so he gets most of the blame or credit excuse. sorry qb got his share of the blame and is done. i am done this is an argument that ran its course for me. i dont have anything new to add so i will agree to disagree. an elite helps an avg qb look better, what makes a receiver elite, is he wil make his plays regardless who is qb is and while yes he will miss some and drop some, the mstakes are miniscual in the end result, many if not all marshalls mistakes have been crucial to the result.
he's not playing elite football but that doesn't mean the slant was his fault, the timing on the slant, the ball placement of the pass, were not the receivers fault..If anything your expecting the pass to be low, if you can't get your hands behind you, up high, in quick enough time, its a drop for just about everyone. I thought he had a good game against the best player at his position, with a below average QB throwing him the ball.
I am not saying that every play like that slant was totally on Marshall. Moore needs to lead him better. But it would have been a good catch but my point is when we need a play the elite step up and make that play. We need Brandon Marshall to be that player that bails out his qb, that makes plays. I agree he has elite ability but he is not playing elite and I am sorry but I hold my elite players to a higher standard than I do my avg players
considering the variables he was dealing with that game {QB, revis/best corner in game} and minus that play, do you not think he played at an elite level..? My point about that specific pass is, if you can't get ur hands in position in time because of how the pass was placed, and you get just get them up enough to touch it, I don't think that miss should be part of his grade...The pass was easy to make, its expected to be low where only he can get to it, and it was everything but, high and behind instead of low and in front..I just don't put that play in his grade because of degree of difficulty, I put it in Moore's.
He was saying that right after the game and one of the commentators, a former player, said it looked like your hand on his jersey forced him that way. He laughed and said Naaaa...
He said the formation and the route was for and outside pass, Marshall slipped into him and went outside (He said yes there was contact), than he looked up and the pass came to him. Either way it was a bad pass, I'm just saying it could be Revis was right, Marshall even admitted to changing routes last year, who says he didn't this time? I think Marshall is his own worst enemy, but do I want to get rid of him? No.
I think that was an end around, not a pass reception. It was really dumb, he was looking upfield right at the marker, had room to dive low and get it, but then ran out of bounds instead. I won't get into calling Ginn a wuss or afraid to get hit. He took some strong hits that game on kick returns going straight up the middle.
Maybe not mentally or physically, but in regular human years I am. There was no Madden games in the mid late 60s. We had board games with dice called Strat-O-Matic and APBA. To me much more interesting than some X Box or PS game would have been.
I think the headphones the announcers wear are piped into the OC calling the plays. They're pretty quick saying how someone ran a wrong route. To be able to say that, he must be privy to the play calling. Hmmmmm!
the OP sure put alot of thought into this. id sum it up more along the lines of " the Phins are a bad football team ". carry on.
Another blown chance to extend a drive already today. Who else can you blame except Brandon Marshall?
LOL marshall dropped the 1st pass of the game only today the real joke is us running the ball and playing for fg's and running out the clock at the end and wtf did we go for 2
I almost shot the dog when we did that! There was no reason to do that but it did give us yet another way to lose. I was surprised den didn't go for 2 on the first one. But if something weird had happened, it would have ruined the perfectly scripted game and made it all the more dramatic!!!
The whole team would be a good starting point. I dont really think there is much worth defending. With Marshall you have to hope that he returns to pre-Miami form with Luck, Jones, Barkley, etc throwing him the ball. For all your unabashed hatred of the guy, he can be a top playmaker, he already has proven that. No question he is in a funk and not playing as well as he can, but seriously your shtick is just old at this point. Look at the troll making another anti-Marshall post ... *yawn*
So Marshall wakes up with a different QB some morning and all of a sudden he is a good WR. His playmaking days are over. Bench and cut.... Bench and cut. He is a quitter man stop pretending and handing out passes. Tiresome week in and week out.
No. He wakes up every morning and is a good WR. With a competent quarterback he is great. With a great QB he is elite. Well, at least you got your next scapegoat.
PLAYING MADDEN! LOL This team's issue goes far beyond Marshall, although I agree he's not helping the situation.
The real joke is the defense giving up 15 points in 5 minutes after having dominated the entire game.
I know what "Hands of Stone" will do. He will keep dropping footballs. I asked before who will get the blame when Marshall keeps dropping footballs from our next QB but no answer. Did you blame Moore yesterday on the drops by Marshall and others yesterday? On that third down Moore put the ball right on Marshall's hands and he flat out dropped it. You can't throw that pass any more accurately unless you walk up and hand it to him. Marshall is the new Chris Chambers without the playmaking ability.
It happened to Steve Smith, it can happen to Brandon Marshall. Smith was playing like a scrub to the point he was considered washed up trade bait. Cam Newton comes along and suddenly Smith seems like a top WR again. Hmmm.
Greg Jennings is their #1 WR and he has 42 rec 677 yards 16.1 avg 5 TD's You aren't owning anyone here with the Marshall love. Brandon has dropped 5 TD's. I would expect you to understand that those types of things are a negative. He has 4 TD's in a season and a half.
No, I am not going to give you anything because you would dismiss it, and frankly I don't really care about your trolling ways. If I came up with proof he was God you would claim he is the devil. I am actually curious what he did to you.
Marshall has been a huge disappointment in Miami. He has done this to all Dolphin fans not just me. He isn't as advertised. There is no proof that Marshall is ever going to be a good WR here. His play so far has shown that. Everyone keeps blaming me but it's not my fault..... Blame Marshall.
I can understand you saying he's a dissapointment. But I for the life of me cannot understand how you think he is not good. He isn't elite, but he sure as hell is top 10.
