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unusual conviction from Mortenson on Manning..

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by djphinfan, Oct 27, 2011.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    ''there is no way Peyton Manning would allow the Colts to draft Andrew Luck''


    There is also a rumor he was talking about it on NFL 32 today..

    Found this...''Chris Mortensen just said that Peyton Manning will not allow the drafting of Andrew Luck in Indianapolis and will demand to be traded or released if that happens.

    Anyone watch that show today???

    Whatever, go on wucha bad self Peyton.
     
  2. 2k5

    2k5 I miss Ted Ginn Jr.

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    I'll bet he'd allow them to trade the pick for a plethora of of other picks/players that could be added to help him.
     
  3. NaboCane

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    Any team which ends up with the first overall pick and doesn't use it to draft Andrew Luck is run by morons. Or Jeff Ireland.

    You draft the guy because he's a once-in-a-generation talent, period. I don't care if it's the Patriots—you draft Luck. And then you field offers for your QB, whoever that is, or you keep him as a bridge.
     
  4. gamblerx

    gamblerx New Member

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    I'll bet Peyton Manning comes back and win a couple of games this season to tell Polian "This is MY TEAM!!"
     
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  5. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I wasn't aware that Manning was the GM of the Colts. He is 35 years old and hasn't been able to play this season because of severe neck injuries. Whether he will ever be the QB he was before his injuries is still a big question mark. Manning is merely a player on the Colts and like every other great player who eventually grew old and had to be replaced, Manning will soon have to be replaced as the franchise QB of the Colts. The owner Jim Irsay, and the GM Bill Polian will do what is best for the future of the Colts and they will not care what Manning wants. If the Colts end up with the first pick in the 2012 draft. I expect they will draft Luck and Manning will just have to take his $24,000,000 roster bonus he is due in March 2012 and live with it.
     
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  6. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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  7. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    How would Manning demanding a trade prevent them from drafting Luck??? Manning has 0 leverage in this situation.
     
  8. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Who was last generations Andrew Luck?
     
  9. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    Peyton Manning reminds me of another selfish QB who thought he owned his team, the NFL, and the world. Favre. Manning IS getting old. He's got to realize he needs someone behind him to be prepared to step in. That being said, I hope the Colts abide by the law that Manning is laying down. After all, he is the Colts...right?
     
  10. TotoreMexico

    TotoreMexico Your retarded

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  11. gamblerx

    gamblerx New Member

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    I don't ever recall Manning saying that he's everything nor about the Andrew Luck scenario.
     
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  12. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Jesus H. Christ.

    Maybe you've heard of him. In fact, I would say Jesus wasn't as good throwing out of the pocket as Luck.
     
  13. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    That was the commentators opinion.Payton did not say that.In fact I understand Payton has a good relationship with Luck .

    Ultimately it will be a decision of the Colts front office.
     
  14. Jaj

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    Fans over there are pretty loyal to their good players. I can't imagine they'd like it if Manning were put in that spot. For those considering a Favre comparison, Favre was hit or miss on retirement teetering back and forth all the time. Manning isn't in the same situation.
     
  15. Starry31

    Starry31 Phins and Heels.

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    Doesn't really change my opinion on anything. If the Cols get the first pick and don't draft Luck then they'll probably trade the pick and I don't like our chances of getting it. I know it's hard to say because we don't know who the new GM will be, but even with an aggressive GM we will still be bidding with other teams. That and as touted as Luck is, there is a point where the price tag is too much, in my opinion. If this scenario plays out it does increase our chances some but not enough to get me really excited.
     
  16. Jaj

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    Who would trade up for him?

    - St. Louis won't.
    - Cleveland probably has enough but does he want to play there?
    - Seattle would probably be happy with Barkley and it's tough for them to trade up.
    - K.C. is doing well now.
    - Jax is starting to win games and they may get out of range.
    - Arizona just spent quite a bit on Kolb.

    Who is this big threat to Miami that will trade up out of the darkness and grab Luck out of sight, besides we can always compete.
     
  17. SRM

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    So they can draft Luck, trade Manning for a high pick, and use the money they would have from having Peyton off their hands to sign good players. I doubt they are crying about that.
     
  18. gamblerx

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    Don't underestimate John Elway.
     
  19. Ohio Fanatic

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    Couldn't disagree more. If we're the 2nd or 3rd pick, then Indy trading with us makes too much sense. They only drop 1 or 2 spots, still get an extremely elite talent (Kalil?) and pick up another high draft pick. They could use one on OT and 2nd one on a DL or safety, or trade down again, get more picks and get their safety. they play their cards right, and Manning stays healthy (no way IMO) they can go back to another superbowl.
     
  20. Jaj

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    St. Louis will probably want Matt Kalil so how far can they honestly go down. Same goes for Indy. Coples or Kalil is their guy. Denver from all the way at ten to the number one? It's hard to fathom. They'd have to trade a lot to do it.

    The worst-case scenario for Miami is finishing third and St. Louis trades Luck away while Indy trades with Seattle for Barkley. Then Miami will be left with Landry Jones.
     
  21. JimToss

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    I personally would gladly welcome Peyton Manning to the Miami Dolphins.
     
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  22. ATLFINFAN

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    Any team can offer multiple years first round picks for the top spot. Denver, for example, could offer their next 3 first rounders for that pick, or the next 4. SO could we, for that matter. Never say never....
     
  23. Jaj

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    If that happens so be it. I'm not scared of a scenario with Matt Barkley if he declares. The only thing I'd be scared of is if St. Louis finishes 1, Indy 2.
     
  24. gamblerx

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    I can see Denver giving up a whole draft or two for Luck.
     
  25. GreysonWinfield

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    These ****tard reporters are throwing fish guts in the water and selling it to all of you as bluefin. What a CF this is gonna be until draft day.
     
  26. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    I agree and would hope he has more class than to pull that chit. Besides I'm sure Luck would be very unhappy to think he might have to sit for 3-5 years waiting for the great one to give it up!
     
  27. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't know why Mort is saying this stuff, when one scenario is that Polian tells Peyton to go on IR, relax, let them draft Luck, and then trade luck for picks that will surround him in his stretch run.
     
  28. MonstBlitz

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    Yes, Luck is a great QB prospect, and just about any sane Dolphin fan wants him in aqua and orange. Fact remains he's still a PROSPECT. A team like the Colts are not going to risk making Peyton Manning walk to draft a PROSPECT. You know the old saying about a bird in the hand?

    They would however, trade the pick for a king's ransom and maybe draft a QB who would not be a threat to Peyton Manning's starting job to develop.
     
  29. Boik14

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    Exactly. Indy was putrid before Manning for decades (literally save for about 3 years) and then Manning comes there and theyre awesome. Now hes hurt and theyre back to sucking. There's kind of a pattern there.

    The question is this: Why would the Colts not trade from 1 to 3 (where we would currently be picking for a say a 3 and 5 this year and a 3 next year allowing them to load up on a final 3 year run with Manning? They can select the premier defensive player available (probably Coples) and restock a lot of positions that frankly need help. The colts could very easily win 1 of the next three, maybe 2 of the next three super bowls and still use one of those picks on a QB to groom. If say a Robert Griffith or a Ryan Tannehill is there in round two they get the help they need now and a very good Qb prospect to groom under Manning for 3 years
     
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  30. Vengeful Odin

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    Am I the only one who feels this is completely out of character for Manning? I've never heard this type of stuff about him before. Maybe that's part of his carefully controlled image, but I don't envision him selfish enough to handcuff the team from trying to improve.

    I get wanting them to get him more weapons ... but this team has had holes for several years and his absence has simply served to highlight them.

    Just seems like strange timing to me. Maybe Manning is trying to fire the team up or something. Or he's prepping for an early return.
     
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  31. Clark Kent

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    They juust made Manning the richest QB in the NFL... They're are not trading him.
     
  32. Rouk

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    Manning thinks he has 5 plus years left he wants the best team put around him it makes no sense for them to draft luck unless they plan on getting more picks out of it.
     
  33. MikeHoncho

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    You're leaving out the fact that Andrew Luck can turn water into Gatorade. Also, Superbowls.
     
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  34. Jt0323

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    Manning has not said a single word about this. People need to realize this before they start bashing him. Its all speculation.
     
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  35. Ophinerated

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    I'm not so sure I would. If we just wanted to win once and be done, then sure. I would rather build for years to come. Manning at that price and that age; I wouldn't do it. It would be like Pennington all over again; one great year and then injuries and nobody to replace him.
     
  36. texanphinatic

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    If Joe Montana and Brett Favre can be traded at the end of their career, then so can Peyton Manning. Colts would stupid to pass on him, you can try to take advantage of a closing window with an aging QB, or just extend the window using the next once in a generation QB prospect.

    I wouldn't be surprised either way, but as concerns Luck, I believe if we don't have the #1 overall pick, we don't have Andrew Luck.
     
  37. NaboCane

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    A neck injury is no joke; Manning may never play again. And if he does, he's one wrong hit from damage that could include paralysis, or at least nerve damage. He has to know that better than any of us. I mean, the guy went to Europe for experimental stem cell therapy...you don't do that for a stinger.

    So no, I would not trade for him.
     
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    :lol::lol::lol:

    moving up 1 or 2 spots to take Luck will cost a minimum of a 2013 1st and a 3rd this year. Probably a 2nd this year, 1st and 3rd next year.
     
  39. Boik14

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    Whatever, its Luck. Id give up the next two drafts to have him QB us for the next 15 years. I cant take watching rejects off the short bus, save Pennington, anymore. Marino spoiled me in that respect but I cant take this poop anymore.
     
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  40. CaribPhin

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    The guy who Andrew Luck is a version of in this generation.
     

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