IS it me or does andrew luck have the arm of chad pennington?

Landry Jones does have a Major-League arm, but he has a Single-A brain. He's a product of that system. Don't be fooled by the stats. He's not as good as Bradford, and I'm starting to question how good Bradford is.

 

I am ageist, so I am anti-Weeden.

 

Not me! I'm partial to having a good Qb. Weeden is just that...

 

He is a 28 year old playing with kids, how much of him looking good is him being good or just being more mature.

 

I'm not worried about Andrew Luck's arm.

 

Kurt Warner was 28 when he was plucked from obscurity with the Rams. Just sayin'.

 

Peyton Manning doesn't rocket passes in anywhere. Manning's throws are more about anticipation to go along with a quick release. Watch Manning play, it takes him about three seconds to get the ball out, even during a PA-Fake, and he throws an arcing pass to a spot where he knows the player will be.

Brees is an arcer as well. Brees often throws up to his exceedingly tall receivers.

 

And he was a baseball player during that time. Not to mention suffered a serious shoulder injury.

It's not as if he's been playing college football for a decade. That's a long break that, as we've seen, usually results in failure. Weeden is dominating.

 

Come on man! How about admitting the man can play the Qb position? He is not the only player on that team and they're kicking some serious ***.

You dont want a 28/9 year old qb picked by your team thats fine. I'll take any Qb who can make the Dolphins better. Considering that Qb has been the biggest problem on this team since 97, I'll take a chance on having 6-7 seasons of some quality play by picking him....

 

You can either play ball or you can't. None of it is because he is more mature. Its not like he is playing against freshmans all the time.

Your theory might work if it was a 20 year old was trying to get in on a pop warner game but i dont think it holds too much water in college.

 

Regardless, it's probably about time for us to stop talking about Andrew Luck. It's not happening.

 

Signed,

Peyton Manning

In all seriousness, what is the obsession with a rocket arm? Peyton manning has a rather average arm, as did Montana, and they are considered great QBs. What makes them great is the fact that they are excellent at reading defenses, and are a step ahead seemingly. Favre had a rocket arm, and he made risky choices, and is the holder of the career INTs thrown

 

Chad Pennington's issues weren't arm strength. His issues were health and injury related.

You know, it never gets any pub, except when Phil Simms said it I believe, or someone disagreeing with Simms' Luck assessment, I can't remember. The message was Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Phil Rivers they don't have exceptional arm strength. They throw a lot of balls that flutter. matter of factly, Peyton's struggles early on in the postseason cols be linked to facing terrible weather in New England and New York that really showed those issues.

Anywho, the point is this, those are 3 of the best QB's in the league. They make up for it with incredible accuracy, intelligence, getting the ball out quickly and awareness. Chad Pennington had those same 4 attributes, but was sricken with injuries. If Andrew Luck has "Chad Pennington" arm strength then that shows it's not something that will hold him back.

Eli Manning, another guy that doesn't have a cannon.

 

Except Phillip Rivers is a fraud as a franchise QB.

 

NotSureIfSerious

 

Remember when everyone questioned about Peyton Manning in college when Manning couldn't win the big games?

 

He's got a long wind up, it reminds me of Kerry Collins - although maybe not as pronounced.

 

Lmao, lest we forget he has one of the highest QB ratings ever.

 

There are a lot of people who can play ball in college and cannot in the pros.

There is still muscle and mental growth for man all the way into 25, that gives him an advantage over 19-22 year olds.

 

He might if the Colts don't change their philosophy.

 

Not to mention mental advantages - maturity, patience, decision making, etc

Right now he is a man playing among boys essentially. If took a 22 year old and stuck him in high school, wouldn't you expect him to look good? I think it will be good to see Weeden go up against one of those SEC defenses in LSU or Bama. If he still looks great then you can have a bit more confidence, but he is a guy to be wary of right now I think.

 

Your posts are great comic relief that's for sure. He's having an average year, let's just completely forget the prior 5 years. LOL.

 

Wow! Just wow...

 

LOL, except all these kids have already competed in HS Football. His age will have absolutely nothing to do with wether his team wins or not against Bama, or anyone else...

 

And no Super Bowl rings either.

 

Tends to happen when you're coached by Norv Turner. I've never seen someone do less with more the way he can.

 

Lots of people are all of a sudden watching him and to be honest, unless he's throwing 8 touchdowns a game, people don't tend to deconstruct with a draftniks eye. They just see stats lines. People evaluating Andrew Luck aren't evaluating him the way you might with a Robert Griffin or a Tannehill, etc.

 

IMO, Henne has a lot stronger arm than Jones. Maybe in most other ways they are same, but for pure arm strength Henne ranks pretty high among the current NFL QBs.

 

How do you rank the top half dozen QBs who are or could be in the next draft? Those being Barkley, Griffin, Jones, Luck, Tannehill, and Weeden.

 

What evidence of you got to suggest he is gay?

 

Count me in as on the Weeden bandwagon. The guys just got it

 

Hmmmm.

Luck, then a group including Weeden, Jones and maybe Griff, then Barkley and Tann.

Or something.

 

I don't think many people remember Pennington pre shoulder injury. His arm was pretty good. Luck has a stronger arm than pre-injury Pennington. He can make every throw. Add to the fact that the guy is Manning smart and what you have is a GREAT prospect. Nothing is 100%, but Luck is the surest thing from this class. This should be a deep QB class. There should be no reason why we don't find our guy Luck or not.

 

Thanks. It's interesting to compare the different orders in which they get ranked. I think I am closer to CK's order in how I would rank them. Luck, Barkley, Weeden, Griffin, Tannehill, Jones. Of course we can all reserve the right to alter our order at anytime prior to the draft.

 

Barkley will have been a full time 3 year starter, and improved significantly over that time. IMO, he is ready to take the next step. The only things you could question about him, that he has only above average, but not elite, arm strength, and that he is just slightly over 6'2, are not gonna change. He has already everything else you'd look for.