Matt Moore might be a bad QB, but he is better than Henne.

Moore is developing into a solid QB. He may not be the long term answer at the position, but he's already shown me more in the last few weeks than Henne did in the last few years. I'm afraid the Henne haters were right all along. He just doesn't have it. It wasn't all Henne. Just as it wasn't all Henning. But, both together made for a gawd awful combination. Moore probably won't single handily win you many games, but his game management skills are good enough that if the team around him is doing what it's supposed to, he will win more games than he will lose. And, if you still want to draft a franchise QB (which would be advisable and long overdue IMO), then Moore makes for a great place holder and eventual back up.

I also think these guys want to play for Moore, whereas I was never convinced Henne had his teammates confidence or trust. JMHO.

 

Exactly, I like his game, but think he has to add consistency to his body of work as I glanced at his numbers and he can go from Elite level to Average Qb from game to game.

 

Begs the question if Matt Moore is the worst part of your team can you win with him as your QB?

 

I do however find it interesting that we as a team failed to 'handle' poor teams as we have done over the last 3 games it was a criticism of the quarterback play (whether it was right or not is not what I'm saying) and now after we have 'handled' poor teams the last 3 weeks the criticism is that we've played poor teams. It can't go both ways, and at some point credit must be given where its due.

For my part, I like Moore's emotion on the field, and I think the team likes to play for him. Maybe I'm wrong, but thats just what it seems like, so in the end we benefit either with a quality backup that someone may in fact get a hankering to trade for, or someone who we think could become a starter. That's pretty much the outcomes at the end all be all.

 

I think you're right. Offense seems happier. Hell Marshall had one catch and seemed pretty happy after the game. Of course we already know he wasn't Henne's biggest fan. I think the defense is playing harder because of Moore as well. Channing Crowder said numerous times the defense wasn't fond of Henne. I believe him. Defense is excited to go out there and play ball and not have to worry about the offense being complete ***.

 

Sure, because his "bad" games are not "bad" they are more or less just "average" meaning 80Qbr, 60% completions, you can win with that as long as the rest of the team is up to snuff.

D is coming around
ST scored a TD..finally

You'd love to have MMoore go for 3 Td's every gm, but with Sparano that is not likely to happen, so the importance is placed on efficiency and MM can be efficient.

 

For one the personnel has a better comfort zone now than they did 5 weeks ago. It happens in a new system.

 

That's okay I'll keep my pride intact and keep rooting for wins. Wanting the team to lose brings about a negative mindset which in turn creates a negative environment. You can be the type of fan you want I really don't give a rat's *** but to tell me I'm doing a disservice by rooting on my team is just your ridiculous opinion. Another sore loser in the SFL brigade. Sorry it didn't work out for you but the team hasn't quit unlike it's fans.
Jumping on and off the ship would appear to be rather embarrassing.

 

People actually believe Moore is doing this all on his own. I'll give him credit for playing well because he has and I'm damn glad he is making such a contributions because I want to win. We are playing as a team now which is something that hasn't happened here in a long time.
I love the spark he adds but he isn't the one who is suddenly making Y Bell run all over the field and crack skulls or when say the ST's makes a big play.
This is a team effort.
No credit removed from MM.

 

I don't think anyone is saying he's doing by himself. But he's certainly playing better then Henne would in the same situation .....

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peopel who think moore is better than henne are worse than the ******ed gator/jesus homers who think tebow is awesome.


football isnt all wins and losses. it isnt all stat lines either. you need to be able to watch the games and judge talent. obviously if u think moore is good you can't judge talent.

 

Disagree. Henne might have a better arm, however he isn't a better quarterback. Watching the actual game, you can see that he is a better quarterback.

 

Moore has played very well the past three weeks. And one thing I will say he absolutely does better than Henne is step up in and move around within the pocket. That in and of itself obviously doesn't make him a better QB. But I think it has helped out the offensive line in pass protection and thus the passing game overall. And at least for the last three games he has been very accurate throwing downfield.

But from a production standpoint those first couple of games were pretty bad for Moore. Thus even with a few really good games his efficiency numbers aren't as good as Henne's were. So as of now I'm going to say Henne is better. But if Moore keeps playing well the rest of the year I'd reconsider.

 

Another lost soul that believes a stronger arm = more talent. JaMarcus Russell and Drew Brees would like a word with you.

 

The fact that Moore is better in the pocket and is better throwing down field DOES make a case that he is a better QB, ESPECIALLY when you add in that the defense WANTS to play for him too.......if that is the case. MM has a better ....feel....for the game, as in where he needs to throw the ball and HOW he needs to throw it. I am guessing Henne is to much in love with his arm and, instead of throwing with touch, when needed, would just as soon throw it hard every time. That is my GUESS on why he has so much trouble connecting on the deep ball......THAT, takes touch. HENNE.....is NOT the answer. In my opinion, it has taken Moore this long to get going because he didnt get the reps in training camp or during the week. Henne got all the reps, and STILL sucked......... Moore just SEEMS to GET IT, more so than Henne. Better athlete....probably Henne. Better QB....Moore....no doubt in MY mind.

 

Hope your not a canes fan because im already embarassed that your a Dolphins fan. ******ed? Jesus homer?

 

I don't care what you do or how you root for the team. Winning meaningless games is bad for the future of the team and that's just a fact. If you want instant gratification by these wins, that's fine. If I want to see the big picture, that's fine too.

 

Comfort zone has very little to do with while the offense is all of a sudden showing life.

 

That is not a fact, that is an opinion.

 

Moore isn't good. But if you can't see he's playing better than Henne ever could, then speak for yourself when telling people they can't judge talent.

 

I'm enjoying the win.... Defense has been playing their *** off.

Matt Moore has been getting us in the end zone. No worries here.

 

I dont care who or how you root for your team but your facts are far from facts. Nothing but your opinion is more like it

 

Of course it's fact. When you don't make the playoffs, the season is a failure, and draft position is most important. Winning meaningless games gives you worse draft position, therefore the team is worse off. The idea that stringing together meaningless wins somehow makes a positive impact the following year is a myth.

 

It is not a fact that games are "meaningless"

 

Tell that to every other QB in the league who for 2 of the last 3 weeks saw Matt Moore with the highest QB rating and decisive wins.

So when you go 10-6 or 11-5 and miss the playoffs, I guess winning those 10-11 games was pretty stooooooopid, huh?

All of you guys hung up on the draft and the importance of high draft picks, do your homework as I have. Go back through every draft for say...the last 25 years. Tell me how many top ten draft picks were pro bowlers versus those you look at and ask, "who?"

And you also seem to forget...Daniel Constantine Marino was drafted number 27...not number 1.

Tom Brady was a 7h round draft pick. Brad Johnson was a 7th round draft pick and both of those guys are sporting Super Bowl rings.

You guys' hard on for Luck has proven an old adage...the human body doesn't produce enough blood to support both heads on a man.

 

When you're 0-7, any game thereafter is meaningless.

 

2 games does not make Matt Moore a good Quarterback. It might make him a good Quarterback for the last few weeks, but in the grand scheme of things, he's still a backup QB in the NFL.

 

That is an interesting opinion.

 

Winning 10 or 11 games is the exception to the rule. Only 1 team with an 11-5 record, and five 10-6 teams have missed the playoffs since 2000. So if you win 10 or 11 games and miss the playoffs, then no, it's not a failure, since you probably should have been in the playoffs with that record. Everything else though, failure, including 9-7.

That's an irrelevant statement. There's thousands more "who?" players than there are top 10 picks. The draft can be a crapshoot, but having a top 10 pick gives you the best CHANCE at an impact player, and that can't really be disputed.

And Bob Griese was drafted 4th overall. What's your point again?

Yea, because 7th round pick hall of fame QB's are all over the place. Get real. You have about a 1% chance of finding a franchise QB in the 7th round. It doesn't happen. Especially not in todays NFL where simply average QB's don't get it done anymore

You called Luck the next Leinart when they have nothing in common, while also praising Landry Henne. I'm more concerned with the blood flow to your head quite frankly.

 

And one that sadly, is fact when Dolphins players and coaches are watching the playoffs from their couches yet again.

 

Maybe you just do not understand the difference between opinion or fact.

 

Tell you what. At the end of the season (provided Moore doesn't get injured), if Moore continues putting up the numbers he's been putting up, you admit to me and everyone else in here you were wrong.

If Moore implodes, I'll admit to you and everyone else in here I was wrong.

Deal?

 

So half a season changes what Moore is in the grand scheme of things? We've seen Moore put up good numbers in the same situation in Carolina before ****ting the bed as a full-time starter. He's a back up QB who can come in and be competent in a pinch. But as soon as you hand him the keys to the car, disaster strikes because he's not a very talented player.

 

I'm being an *** hole more than anything, but what I speak is the truth. This season is going to end in complete failure. You know it, I know it, everyone else knows it.

 

So I take it that's a "no"?

 

yea, because that philosophy's worked so well for...

Detroit (8 top 10 draft pick in last 10 years)
Jacksonville (7 top 10 draft picks in 10 years)
Oakland (6 top 10 draft picks in 10 years)
Cincinnatti (5 top 10 draft picks in 10 years)
Cleveland (5 top 10 draft picks in 10 years)

We've already had 3 top 10 draft picks in the last 10 years...and about to get number 4.

Funny isn't it? The teams without top 10 draft picks are the perinneal winners.

 

Let me know how many of those top 10 picks were QB's. Because if you don't have one, you'll continue to be a sad franchise like the Miami Dolphins have been since Marino retired.

 

Correct. Would be ridiculous for me to admit to being wrong about Moore not being a good QB in the grand scheme of things based on one half of a season. Moore could very well finish the year strong. He did it with Carolina.

 

I guess you just wont give up, will you? faced with the facts and you still go down with the ship.

Detroit: Matthew Stafford
Oakland: JaMarcus Russell
Cincinnatti: Carson Palmer
Jacksonville: Blaine Gabbert
Cleveland: Might as well say Brady Quinn

Still going to go down with the ship eh Captain Smith?