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Andy Reid as a prospective coach?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by NolePhin15, Dec 1, 2011.

  1. NolePhin15

    NolePhin15 Well-Known Member

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    Thoughts? I'd love this hire if he is fired this year. I know it's a HUGE if btw.
     
  2. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    I have never been a fan. His teams are soft and seem to lack the backbone to get things done. He also has always been a notoriously poor game manager.

    I am sure he will be very popular, and he does have a good record, but not the guy I would want.
     
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  3. bakedmatt

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    I could learn to love that offense though.
     
  4. Dolphin1184

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    As long as we don't get Vince Young with him.
     
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  5. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    NO NO NO I live in PA and watch this guy each week. He isn't the coach for us. He will never win a superbowl, and his coaching and talent eval are horrible. He lacks any emotion at all.. After every lose he just says well I have to get better. 10+ years later and hes saying the same **** without adjusting his style. Huge mistake if we do this HUGE!
     
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  6. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you on Reid being a poor game manager. I don't want a coach who refuses to run or to pass when it is obvious to to do so to win the game. I have seen his teams lack a lot of passion. I remember the year they went to the Super Bowl (I think) and they had a chance to make a comeback and win the game and they refused to to hurry to the line and snap the ball. They didn't even go no huddle. It was like they didn't care. I don't want that in a coach.
     
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  7. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    But he did take his team to the superbowl. he must have been doing something right.
     
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  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'am not interested in Reid this year, he needs to take some time off first if he gets fired..Don't like coaches who go from one job to the next, don't trust it.
     
  9. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Yes, he is an excellent coach with a knack for QBs.
     
  10. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    A team taking a young Qb in the draft could do a lot worse Imho.
     
  11. pumpdogs

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    After 13 years his teams still can't run a 2 min offence.No way this guy was a product of the deceased jimmy johnson defence.
     
  12. PhinishLine

    PhinishLine Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I just don't understand how we can be hoping for a guy that is coaching a floundering team packed with talent. The guys resume is on the television every week for us to see and his team is stinking up the place. What would be different if he came to Miami? What is holding him back in PHI that would allofasudden lead him to the promised land if he came to Miami?
     
  13. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    So those years when he did more with less don't count because he has a team that was poorly constituted by his GM?
     
  14. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Andy Reid is probably my favorite prospect. He's by far and away the best X's and O's guy on the market, but like everyone, he has his warts.

    If Reid gets fired, you hope that being fired prompts him some introspection, and address some of the stuff he's done wrong with the Eagles. Not finding a stronger DC, or relying more on a personnel-side guy.
     
  15. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I'm on the fence on Andy Reid. He was the coach who took his team to the NFC Championship 4 years in a row, with the last trip resulting in a Super Bowl bid, but lately....some of his decisions, especially regarding the QB position have been quite puzzling.

    McNabb, Kolb, Vick, Kolb, Vick, Young...seems a bit chaotic in Philly
     
  16. PhinishLine

    PhinishLine Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The NFL is a "What have you done for me lately" league. I can't judge Andy Reid on what he did years ago. Should I just Sparano on what he did in his first year as HC? To me....the Eagles have a talented team. They'd have to if they were being dubbed the "Dream Team." So to answer your question, no it doesn't count. Andy Reid may be a great OC or QB Coach...but I don't think I want him as my HC looking at his current body of work.
     
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  17. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't think the quarterback decisions have been all that confusing.

    McNabb was traded for good reason. Kolb started, but then was injured, Vick came in and played very well. Kolb came back when Vick got injured. The next time Vick got injured, Young stepped in.
     
  18. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    He's not ideal, but he's certainly better than what we have now.
     
  19. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Andy Reid is 122-81-1 as Philly's HC. That's a .600 winning percentage.

    He has all of 2 losing seasons in his resume, one being his first year with a rookie McNabb. He might add a third this year.

    Reid's teams have been to 4 NFC Championships and a SB. His teams have been to the playoffs 9 out of 12 years (they will miss this year)

    He has won 6 division championships. His team is 12-0 following a bye week.

    He developed Mcnabb. He made AJ Feeley look good enough for a moron to trade for him. ditto for Kolb. Yeah, this year hasn't gone well, but Reid's body of work is second only to Belichick over the last decade.

    We would be extremely lucky to land Reid.
     
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  20. PhinsPhan23

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    As a current Philadelphia resident for the past 10 years, PLEASE NO. The worse in game coach (timeouts, challenges, etc.), does not understand how to make adjustments in games, and refuses to move off of his philosophy (has a "I know better then you" attitude).

    We would hate this guy, believe me. He's also the smuggest coach I have seen in press conferences. Refuses to answer anything with any valuable insight, simply yes and no answers (especially when they lose).

    Please no to Andy Ried.
     
  21. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Boy for all these faults, he must have a terrible win-loss record.

    Oh wait...
     
  22. PhinsPhan23

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    The National Media has a love affair with this guy and yes his resume shows that earlier in his tenure, he was very successful. The problem was that once they faced the top teams in the playoffs, they struggled to make adjustments where the opposing coach would make the proper adjustments. Ried has traditionally been very good against the bad / poorly coached teams. He has also traditionally been very bad against well coached teams. Coming out at half-time and saying "ok, now I have seen how they are attacking us, let me change up our game plan to adjust to that" is not Rieds strong suit. He will jam down his philosophy every game no matter if it's the right solution for the game at hand.

    Listen to some Philadelphia residents. We do not want this guy.
     
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  23. PhinsPhan23

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    Not all about wins and losses. #1 he had a VERY good QB (drafted by him but it was really a no-brainer so early in the 1st) throughout the early 2000's and he had consistently one of the best defenses in the league EVERY year coached by the late Jim Johnson. That team was built around the defense and I give much of the credit for their success to Johnson. Not saying Ried is a terrible coach either. He's just not what everyone (national media) makes him out to be.
     
  24. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You don't compile a record of more than 30 games over .500 by being a bad coach. not saying the guy doesn't have his faults, but his overall resume is incredible.

    And McNabb was far from a sure thing at the time Reid drafted him and Philly fans and many in the media hated the move.

    And yea, having Johnson coaching the defense was a boon, but here he could probably just keep Nolan. I'm not worried about that. The most important thing the next coach is going to do is develop a franchise QB who can get us to the SB> Not many guys I'd rather have than Reid
     
  25. Sethdaddy8

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    5, but who's counting.


    You're 100% right. I live right by Philly, and I hate the Iggles...because their fans don't deserve Reid and the many great players who came through during the years while all they did was complain. Reid almost always gets QBs to perform. The Eagles are always pre-season hopefuls, his teams always competitive.

    People can't smell their own crap on their knees. If Cowher's Steelers didn't catch lightening in a bottle that year, everyone would say "no way" to him too. Reid has done an amazing job of winning on a consistent basis for a long time. Just give me a chance to make the play-offs every year...forget the delusions of grandeur when we haven't won a Super Bowl in almost 40 years, or been to one in nearly 20.

    I say this all the time, there's only been 44 Superbowl winners. 44 Champions. There is just not enough winning to go around. And so many intangibles have to happen for it to be your team. There's no sure fire coach or path to a Superbowl. I just want to be in the mix every December.
     
  26. Dorfdad

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    Correction his defense well Jim's defense. Jims gone now and you can see the result with your own eyes. Andy being an offensive coach hasn't done squat really. They always choke. No thanks
     
  27. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    This, a million times this. You people honestly think we can look Andy Reid and say "meh"?
     
  28. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    The problem with this thread is, Lurie will not fire Reid. If he does, it will be the biggest bonehead owner blunder since Bowlen fired Shanahan, and broke up Cutler, Marshall, and Hillis.
     
  29. Sethdaddy8

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    Who do you want Cowher? It took Cowher 15 years to win a Superbowl, with a whole let less success along the way. Maybe Reid wins one by his 14th year...then what? Always choke? Only one team can win. Thinking like this will keep us out of the play-offs for another decade, and keep our games meaningless in December for another decade as well.
     
  30. MikeHoncho

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    Sign Reid. Add picks in a trade for Gary Kubiak. Problem?
     
  31. KB21

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    He is the GM. Well, he at least has final say on all personnel decisions even if someone else has the title of GM.
     
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  32. gafinfan

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    53 stars do not make a TEAM. Andy Reid is not only a fool he is an arrogent fool for there have been many others before him to do what he has done this season and failed just as he is doing, Don Shula sadly comes to mind as one other, throw in Dan Synder for 10 years and you have another!

    I don't want him anywhere near the Dolphins and don't give a damn what his record says! In my mind this year alone shows what kind of HC/GM we'll be getting!
     
  33. Sethdaddy8

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    Backfired on Bellicheat too, when they came 30 seconds from going 19-0. Thats a nice job of holding Vince Young's thoughtless, stupid, casual comment against Andy Reid.
     
  34. thisperishedmin

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    No to Reid. As many have said he lacks the in game management and adjustment something horrible.

    The great eagles were riding the pure talent of mcnabb and a jim johnson defense. Look where the eagles are now. Last year they rode some luck and pure talent of Vick to get where they did, but its a team in shambles. The talent acquisition via draft and long term planning was awful, thus the scramble this off season. Look at the moves they made in the offseason and evaluate the implications of that going forward. Thats not what I want in Miami.

    The truth is that Reid is an amazing x's and o's guy and did some great game planning...but once a team adjusted to the plan in game, or they found themselves in a situation requiring hurry up or clock burning, they often fail to get it done. In the end, alot of his success, as stated, was riding an incredible (at the time, at least) QB and an extremely talented D coordinator and built defense.

    No nonono. No thanks.
     
  35. GreysonWinfield

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    Will he wear his magic underwear on the sidelines and will it bring us success? If so hire him.
     
  36. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Yes. He can produce offense with any QB. If he were available, and I were an NFL owner (which I'm not (sadly)) he would be at the top of my wish list. Even if Gruden and Cowher both wanted to coach for me. To me Andy Reid is a great coach having a bad year.
     
  37. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    i think that in general, i would say that Reid has been able to get his players to play above their talent level. that is one hell of a thing. but that also means that his player selection hasnt been that great, so that would be a sticking point

    but i dont watch much eagles games, so idk.
     
  38. jw3102

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    I agree totally with you. I think Reid has worn out his welcome in Philly and a change of teams would benefit him. I think he would be an excellent choice for the Dolphins if he becomes available. Young on the other hand is not someone I would like to see as a QB on the Dolphins. Some individuals on this forum have called for the Dolphins to go after Young when he becomes a free agent after this season. I have always felt Young is a head case who will never be productive over the course of an entire season. I believe the Dolphins need to use their first pick in the draft on a QB, but I would take Matt Moore over Vince Young, any day of the week.
     
  39. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    a couple of weeks ago Warren Sapp was saying that in game adjustments are over rated and very difficult to do. not sure if its true or not, but its what he said
     
  40. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Sure.
     

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