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Holy Cow!!..lol..''Nobody wants to play em''

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by djphinfan, Dec 7, 2011.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'am watching first take and Bayless is making a case for the dolphins at #5 in the afc in the power rankings...lol, this is great stuff, he really did it, saying things like, ''what do your eyes tell you..''This team is really tough''...''Noone wants to play them right now''.

    Their gonna do a piece on the dolphins because of it..I'll keep you posted..

    National pub at 4 and 8..lol..

    I know noone like Skip but he's really making the case...love it..
     
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  2. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    Not that they have much more credibility than Skip, but Mike and Mike were making a similar case yesterday.
     
  3. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    I don't think anyone can deny how well we are playing at this point.
     
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  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I know I know, but can we just get past that for a moment and enjoy..He's actually not the only saying some preety outrageous things as it pertains to the dolphins and their play of late..
     
  5. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    along with me, and after me, he was right about Lebron James.lol.
     
  6. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I mean it was just kinda of a shock for me that this team just got the airplay they did..I know we've beaten some average teams pretty bad of late but the reputation were getting for staying together and playing at a high level is becoming kind of a story on its own..That usually doesn't happen to 4 and 8 teams..
     
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  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    and here we go, their at the desk ready to discuss..
     
  8. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    While Bayless is often a contrarian, I don't think you can say that is the case here. Outside of those here that keep saying "it's an illusion", most everybody else is saying this is a very good team that's playing very well. I'm talking about coaches and media. I watch NFL Network most weeks and early on you almost always saw every single "expert" pick against the Dolphins winning. Once in a blue moon you'd get one that might say "they Dolphins get their first win this week", but that was it. Now Miami is usually the unanimous pick. If there is a a vote against, it's usually b/c they believe in the other team rather than b/c they don't believe in Miami.
     
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  9. alen1

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    Bayless is beyond annoying.
     
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  10. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    He is a first class douche-bag.. After that segment he is going to challenge Lebron to a face off, then argue that Aaron Rodgers isn't a top tier QB..
     
  11. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    lol..

    He just went on a whole segment rant..

    Funny..and totally random..

    Anyways, I'am hoping that if this level of play continues, we all we be able to put our guard down, and try to see a different perspective on the now instead of the past..and what I mean by that is, maybe the body of work is not relative to this point and time.
     
  12. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    that high school celebration call was bull****.
     
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  13. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    All these celebration rules are getting out of hand. They always fall back to "it was the right call according to the rule". Maybe it's about time that somebody figures out that the rules are poor. All expression of emotion is not a taunt. People sometimes get happy when they make big plays. I don't understand why some want remove all the emotion from the game.
     
  14. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I wish everyone could of heard the interview that Karlos Dansby did on Rome yesterday...

    I'll just say this..He did fu$# up this offseason, but I'am tellin yeah, that man has excellent leadership qualities, like really good, and is now completely happy being a Miami Dolphin, and is ready to take ownership of that title...He has to now because of his comments all offseason on him being the best. He's accepting that role..So, he's put himself into this situation where his natural leadership qualities will come thru, and I believe this to be true,our franchise will reap the benefits because of it.

    He flat out said, NOWAY, should Sparano get fired, and if he happens to inspire this group against the eagles, and they win again, this story is about to blow up.

    I trust this mother grabber..I think his opinion is going to carry a lot of weight.
     
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  15. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    any videos ?
     
  16. Coral Reefer

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    Dansby is a player.
    He has no experience as a GM and his opinion on such matters should hold zero weight.

    So he "likes" Tony.
    Fantastic!
    He can invite him to Christmas dinner every year going forward.
    I don't think the role of coach has ever been one that holds much importance to a "friendship factor".

    In fact I played football into college and I can flat out tell you looking back that the most effective coaches I ever had were not the ones I liked the most personally. The coach I hated the most is the one I respect the most because he pushed the hell out of us.

    So for me this grass roots movement by the players in support of Sparano means nothing and it shouldn't mean anything to Ross.

     
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  17. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    Is your opinion about your boss completely invalid?
     
  18. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    This is the Pros, the leader of the teams opinion carries weight..ask Ray Lewis.

    All Iam sayin is, with the way this man is talking about, publicly, and if they beat the eagles, this story, of this little team that was sh^% on by everybody, even its fans story, is gonna grow stronger..For those who don't want Sparano, you better be rooting your *** off for the eagles..
     
  19. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    So was Dick Vermeil and Bill Cowher
     
  20. Coral Reefer

    Coral Reefer Premium Member

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    Ask Ray Lewis what?

    They have a strong coach.
    It's not all about "like".
    Also the players have mentioned that Harbaugh is tough on them.
    They respect him and believe in what he's pushing them towards.
    The importance of the coaching position is gaining the respect of the players and getting them to believe in what they are doing NOT whether the players get a "warm and fuzzy" feeling from their coach.
     
  21. Coral Reefer

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    The validity of a workers opinion of his boss always depends on what they are critiquing and whether it relates to anything measureable within the workplace.

    Again, "like" is not an aspect a worker can demand out of a boss.
    If a worker complains to his corp. offices that he personally does not like his boss it means nothing unless the boss is doing something unenthical, or in violation of HR standards or is reflective in poor bottom line results from that staff. If a boss is disliked yet the staff is producing that boss is going to stay regardless of whether anyone wants to send him a Christmas card. You know how many bosses are "disliked" because they hold people accountable? The horror!

    On the flip side if a boss has not been getting consistent results from his staff then the opinion of "liking" the boss means zero.
    So again, IMO this wave of player support for Tony should mean Nada.
     
  22. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    WOWWWW!, That is serious man..tell me what your thinking when it comes to Matt?..
     
  23. unluckyluciano

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    hence the completely invalid. Point is, as someone who does the work, yes you can judge rather or not a boss is good/knows what they are doing, etc.
     
  24. unluckyluciano

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    try not being so unprofessional eg. not calling your boss an ******* and saying why you think they are an ******* instead.
     
  25. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    if he is approached about coaches who coach his unit and the team.

    Its not about warm and fuzzy..

    I wanted harbaugh bad..whats the point?..different coaches have won the big game.
     
  26. dsteve

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    I really don't care what dansby says. Until he plays at level like a ray lewis then nothing he says about the coaches matters.

    a zach thomas could make this call. a jason taylor back in the day could make this call. dansby? who cares. he came in out of shape and played horrible for 8 games.


    I wish matt moore was the guy too but he's not. he doesn't have an NFL arm. He's not accurate either. his football iq is nowhere near high enough to make up for these short comings. atleast with henne you felt like if he had some better coaching he atleast has the tools to be a winner. Matt moore is nothing than a great back up and if we can keep him at a cheap price then let him compete with the rookie we should draft, maybe even compete with henne.
     
  27. mbmonk

    mbmonk I have no clue

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    But wouldn't Dansby throwing the coach under the bus in public cause himself a ton of problems. Being labeled a cancer in the locker room and not a 'team' guy etc. Not many people are going to express their true beliefs about their boss on national television.

    To me it doesn't really matter much what Dansby says publicly. This team has under achieved and unless we start beating some elite tier teams I think it's hard to argue for another year for Sparano. The goal of playoffs was pretty clearly defined at the beginning of the year and we aren't going to make that. So he would have to show that the team has improved so much over the course of the remainder of the year that it would be unwise to fire him. So far I don't think he has made that case.
     
  28. unluckyluciano

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    sure if thats why he said it. That really has nothing to do with what I'm arguing though.
     
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  29. mbmonk

    mbmonk I have no clue

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    I shouldn't have quoted you. I removed it. Apologies.
     
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  30. MikeHoncho

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    We're not within the top 3 because LeBron James lives in Miami.
     
  31. unluckyluciano

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    no worries. :hi5: by the way I would never high five you with my tongue.........
     
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  32. Muck

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    I heard the entire interview and think you may be misinterpreting his comments or have a different impression of what was said.

    Dansby wasn't making a case for Sparano because he liked him. Far from it. He made the case for Sparano because -- in his words -- he inspires the players. Because he "came into his own" in the second half of the season. "Became his own man" and is "doing it his way" now. Dansby gave the lion's share of the credit for the turnaround to Sparano.

    OT: I did some live play-by-play yesterday on our Twitter feed.

    Personally, I think his words will absolutely carry some weight with Stephen Ross because it speaks to why Tony should be retained (not saying either way). It's not the determining factor, but when the veteran leadership on the team -- whom Sparano has since empowered to police the rest of the players -- goes to bat and says his methods were the catalyst for turning the season around, Stephen Ross will most certainly take it into account IMHO.
     
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    Due respect Muck, but imo it won't matter if Dansby has Sparano's baby if they do not finish even more strongly, like 3-1 with things breaking right and we knock the Jest out of the playoffs.

    If we beat the pats in foxboro, and knock the Jest out of the playoffs, Sparano will be back imo, we beat philly and the bills and lose to the pats and jest, sparano should call Ryder and pick up some extra boxes.
     
  34. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Thank you sir..

    Beat the eagles Muck, and the story gets bigger..

    I'am tellin yeah, Karlos dansby is coming into his own, and hes got the whole package, they win out, ain't no'one gonna stop him from getting what he wants, I'd bet on it.
     
  35. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Thats fair..

    Whats in the dolphins favor is that the media is now on their side, there's a story there, and the nation is talking about it early in the process, so if they do make this run, he will of deserved to finish out his contract.
     
  36. ToddsPhins

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    At 4 wins, I'll take anyone in the media making a case for us. :tongue2:

    Maybe b/c of this the NFL will make an exception and somehow grandfather us into the playoffs.
     
  37. Lloyd Heilbrunn

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    Unless Dansby promises to buy 10,000 Season Tickets, I don't think Ross is gonna care what he thinks....
     
  38. djphinfan

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    his accuracy suffers some because he doesn't have that strong of arm, and he compensates for that buy putting extra mechanics into the throw, and he doesn't get a lot of revolutions on the ball so it tends to flutter some.

    Overall though, your exactly right about the intangible side, he's got somethin about him that screams ''one of the guys'', good looking dude, who doesn't give a sh%$..and thus far, his competitive nature looks strong and infectious.
     
  39. PhinsRock

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    Don't care a tinker's damn what the players want, we need a real HC to right this ship. Tony is a likable guy, I like him, but he is NOT a HC that will ever get this team to the SB.
     
  40. Ozzy

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    Sparano is not an excellent coach. This town needs an excellent coach or the season tickets will not go up to where they need to be. OK, he motivates, is a players coach so they all want him to remain but the bottom line is his teams will now have went close to or under 500 for three straight seasons.
     

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