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Holy Cow!!..lol..''Nobody wants to play em''

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by djphinfan, Dec 7, 2011.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Do you believe Sparano has had above average QB play for 3 out of the fours years?? In evaluating this coach, if were gonna do it from a body of work perspective, don't we need to consider that he didn't have a very good QB situation for 3 years, 2 of them developing a late 2nd rounder, while rebuilding from 1 and 15?...we know what he did when he had it...11 and 5, first year, division title.
     
  2. DevilFin13

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    There is no doubt that Bayless can be extremely annoying a lot of the time. But he made far more sense than Stephen A. Smith, who was the one being contrarian in that segment. Smith's argument was basically that the Dolphins had nothing to lose, and so playing without any pressure on them was causing them to beat the poor teams we have beat lately.

    I think that's a bit ridiculous. I think the emotions of teams as portrayed by the media are way overemphasized in relation to how a team plays and the outcome of games (think "this team just wanted it more" or "they were distracted"). But assuming it matters, why would our situation help us more than the situation the Raiders were facing (tied for division lead) or the Bills were facing (still in playoff contention)?
     
  3. adamprez2003

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    coaches rarely are responsible for super bowls. GMs are. You dont win a super bowl until the pieces are in place. We need at least three if not four pro bowl quality impact players added to this team. Ireland has done a good job filling the roster with solid players. He has done a poor job IMO landing enough impact players. I want a new GM but I'm cool with keeping Sparano. His teams play hard and it seems they arent shooting themselves in the foot anymore. Ireland is far more at fault for us taking this long to come together than sparano is. it took him three friggin years to build an offensive line and we still need to find a ROT. Not one impact receiver drafted in four years? Not one impact TE or FS in four years? Where is OLB who can compliment Wake?
     
  4. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Everyone knows Bayless is a troll who does this to get a rise out of anyone right?
     
  5. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    You can say that about anyone on ESPN
     
  6. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    Did his teams go 7-9, 7-9 the last two seasons and start our 0-7 for this one?

    That 0-7 start was his undoing....
     
  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He wins out, he saves his job OZ, it would be an 8 and 8 finish, which would make him 33 and 31 over 4 years, first time head coach, building a team from scratch, and dealing with a lot of sh^% in the process, and, has the team believin going into the offseason...Not sure your expectations of a first timer, but that ain't bad.
     
  8. electrolyte

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    Skip takes a lot of unjustified flack, is what I think.

    I hear his opinions. I don't see a shock jock, or a devil's advocate. He talked smack about LBJ for years. Now it's common place to agree with Skip about LBJ.

    He's been right about many things. Someone please point out to me several things Skip has said that justify this hate for him. He's actually not bad. He is just not scared to say his opinion, but what I have seen over the years, is he is smarter than a lot of people give him credit for and he's usually ahead of the curve. Unpopular opinions AT THE TIME turn out to be correct in the long run.

    Not sure why people hate Skip.

    Now, dumbasses like Ric Bucher, sure.
     
  9. ToddsPhins

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    Good advice. Lemme try it.
    Unlucky, I think you're an ******* because you're an *******. Am I a quick learner or what?! :shifty:
     
  10. ToddsPhins

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    I'd be fine with Matt as the starter if we're out of draft range for Griffin, Tannehill, and Barkley b/c I'd rather improve another area of the team than draft Landry Jones.

    I'm still a Henne supporter so I'd try to bring him back to compete with Matt and push him, but it would be Moore's job to lose if he continues the nice run he's on. IMO Henne still has talent and ability to be a starting QB, so if he happens to be Moore's backup, he'd be one of the best backups in the NFL and more trustworthy & reliable than a potential mid round developmental QB.
     
  11. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    Currently, the way Tony is coaching and players are subsequently responding, it'll take a big-time prospect to supplant him b/c the last thing we want is a new coach potentially compromising the cohesiveness and energy this team is building together.

    Right now we're 53 men playing as a team rather than a team playing as 53 men (or 46 if you go by game day roster). We can't assume it remains that way with a new coach.

    Sparano's now reached the status of "We're not gonna fire him just to fire him.".
     
  12. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    My expectations are for the team to improve every season. Even if it's a little. He has regressed, is a terrible manager of the game, and cannot absolutely save his job just because his team started playing well 8 games into a season. Especially since his team started off so bad.

    The bottom line here is getting fans to buy season tickets. Keep Sparano, and I bet season ticket sales drop, ONCE AGAIN. Ross cannot afford to bring Sparano back. He just can't.
     
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  13. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    No you're not?





































    Don't you mean, you and Henne are related? :-)
     
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  14. Ozzy

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    No, it will be more like, "we had to fire him or be willing to buy 10,000 seats for every game to avoid blackouts".
     
  15. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    He's not going to finish 8-8. That's not going to happen.
     
  16. mbmonk

    mbmonk I have no clue

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    If Sparano wins out I think there could be a discussion about keeping him.

    Also if the team wins games at home, especially like they have lately, then I hope fans would come back. They are playing a different offense this year and personally I love watching Reggie Bush, Devon Bess, and Brandon Marshal. So I enjoy watching the Dolphins. But I don't live in Miami and I don't buy season tickets so it's easy for me to say that :)
     
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  17. MikeHoncho

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  18. Sceeto

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    A guy named Skip who wears a pink polo shirt talking football. Awesome! He should be sipping Perrier while watching badminton or something. With that said... He's right and I'll take it and just about every sports media person is saying the same thing.
     
  19. MikeHoncho

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    What you tryin' to say, homie?
     
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  20. jw3102

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    If Dansby thinks so much of Sparano,why did he come into camp fat and out of shape? He obviously knew that Sparano was already on the hot seat with the owner and yet he showed up 20lbs overweight and played like crap for the first seven games of this season. Perhaps Dansby wants Sparano to stick around because he knows that no decent HC would have put up with his play during those seven weeks. A real HC would have told him to his face that he was a lazy piece of crap and that he should have refunded the major part of his salary back to the owner.

    Sparano made excuses for his players for seven weeks and they only started playing with any real zeal once they had no real chance of making the playoffs. In a poll of 111 NFL players, Sparano came in second when these players were asked which coach they would least like to play for. The only coach who received more votes than Sparano was Tom Coughlin.

    Dansby likes Sparano because he knows he can get away with starting the season fat and out of shape and Sparano will say nothing to him. If the players on the Dolphins really respected Sparano and wanted him to remain the coach of the Dolphins, they wouldn't have played so poorly early in the season. The last five games are merely like fools gold. When you first look at it, it seems like the real thing. Upon closer inspection, the truth comes out, and the truth in this case is that the players didn't like or respect Sparano enough to save his job when they had the chance, early in the season. Now they are trying to save their own jobs by saying the politically correct things to the media.

    All Ross has to do in making his decision concerning Sparano and Ireland is to look in the stands each week and see all the fans disguised as orange seats. Ross is first and foremost a businessman and the businessman in him will do what he needs to do to bring fans back to the stadium. He will fire Sparano and Ireland as soon as the season is over, no matter how the Dolphins play in their remaining four games.
     
  21. muscle979

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    You were ready to crucify Dansby a couple of weeks ago....
     
  22. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If you read my post above you'll see why I was pissed, this offseason he didn't meet imo the expectations I place on him...doesn't mean I don't see the potential in him as a leader, I do, very much so, and the interview combined with his play, gives me optimism that he understands.
     
  23. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    you may well be right, cause I'am surely not here saying he needs to be signed asap, to me its all part of the ongoing evaluation, I'am just preparing my thoughts and opinions on different scenarios..I'am not here saying if we revert back to early form we should keep him, I'am only presenting myself a scenario if he wins out..

    I really like your take on Dansby, the defense, the coach, and the offseason in terms of conditioning, you would think that a good coach would demand that respect, that the players stay sharp with their bodies in the offseason, however, how much of that respect can be damaged when your authority was taken from you before the offseason got under way, and not being able to communicate with your players to be able to fight for that respect back.?
     
  24. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy



    So you are blaming the coach that couldn’t have any contact with his players during the off season for one of the highest paid LB in the NFL showing up for camp not ready to play with a new position to learn?

    That does not compute.
     
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  25. Funny, i remember the SFL campaign. Feels good to win a couple games doesnt it?
     
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