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Coach Sparano fired

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by finyank13, Dec 12, 2011.

  1. dsteve

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    id rather rebuild than take a risk with a bum like moore. Def don't want rg3 either. way too risky and whoever our coach is will be married to him. if we can't get barkley i'd be fine with filliing a hole on our o line and maybe getting weeden in the second round or moving back into the first to get someone else. o line is our problem, not quarterback.
     
  2. dsteve

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    might have a little bit to do with the rams being a horrible team. arent staford and bradford from the same draft class?
     
  3. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Or design an offense that allows to win now with RG3 like the Ravens did with Flacco.
     
  4. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    nope. stafford is in year three. bradford year two
     
  5. dsteve

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    people need to get off the rg3 train. he's not a better prospect than barkley. if you have a mid 1st round pick on a team with an average qb or you're a playoff team then sure. take a stab. he isnt nfl ready.


    well lets atleast aknowledge staford has a much better team than bradford.
     
  6. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Doubt that's even possible. He isn't good enough. Needs much more developing to become a good NFL QB. Flacco was much more NFL ready than RG3. Cam Newton is the only comparison, and even then, Newton has much more physical talent than RG3.
     
  7. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    you wont win with rg3 for three or four years. and i like the kid. i really do. he would be a great pick long term but he's going to suck for a few years until he figures out zone coverage, blitz reads and all the other fun stuff that derails 95% of young qbs their first few years. its better to add the receivers like baltimore did, sew up the oline and add a playmaking fs and a pass rushing olb to create a baltimore type of team. if you get rg3 you almost have to remake your offense entirely to fit his strengths. you've just added another two years to the project
     
  8. adamprez2003

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    i doubt barkley comes out. all indications seem to point to him returning to usc
     
  9. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Pittsburgh won with Ben Rothlisberger and he was terrible.

    What do you base that Flacco was much more NFL ready than RG3?

    I think Steve McNair is a better comparison with RG3.
     
  10. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    steve mcnair with a touch of elway thrown in
     
  11. Califin

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    Not sure how long Sparano's presser went on for this morning, but the short clip I saw of it was brutal.
    Allowing Sparano to address that crowd, unaware of his fate, consequently denied him the meager courtesy of a dignified exit.
    Maybe I'm off base, but it seemed to me not only careless on Ross's behalf, but a woeful reflection on the sort of respect and consideration he'll be trying to sell to any upcoming prospective replacements.
    As for Ireland allowing it to happen, I can't see it as anything more than a ruthless, vindictive slight.
    I'm still glad TS is gone, but for his efforts of having coached this team, THIS franchise, a coach deserves better.
     
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  12. Kud_II

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    Party!
     
  13. Kud_II

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    He made good money to take this team one step forward and three big paces back.
     
  14. jw3102

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    The reason Ross stated the biggest need for the Dolphins is a QB is because it is the truth. Moore has certainly proved that he is a capable backup, but that is about it. The number one need for the Dolphins in the 2012 draft is a franchise QB and until the Dolphins get a true franchise QB, they will remain just another mediocre team in the NFL. Besides, Moore only seemed like a quality starter when compared to Henne. Since Henne was one of the worst starting QB's in the NFL over the last three years, it made Moore look that much better once he became the Dolphins starter.
     
  15. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I bet there will be alot of backlash from players today...

     
  16. Rick 1966

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    I bet there won't.
     
  17. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Well hate to break it you, but he's not. He's played 2 great games, and 8 awful to average games. And that's as a backup. We already know how he does when being named the starter from day one, more than double turnovers than TD's.
     
  18. Phyl

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    I can't believe that some of the fans here want to continue with the status quo that has proven for the last 15 years to be a complete waste of time. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills or someone is playing a joke on me.
     
  19. muscle979

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    The players will all say something nice and then move on. There will be zero backlash.
     
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  20. MikeHoncho

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    I actually heard some personality on the radio (940WINZ) --could have been Sam Madison, say that the players will now "dedicate" the next 3 games to Tony Sparano and that they will "play for him"...












    :sidelol: (because now it really matters)

    C'mon, Sam.
     
  21. rdhstlr23

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    Then if you aren't one of this, it doesn't apply to you.

    The problem with the country is just what you stated, they're so obsessed with other peoples lives rather than their own. Maybe if you'd put the effort into being an Inventory Manager or other things the way you would a Head Coaching gig, you'd be doing something you enjoy.

    There is no reply or comment that can change my mind that it's OK to trash the guy, which again you aren't doing. You can celebrate, be happy, all those things. Just not to some of the extremes IMO. It makes us look like Jets fans.
     
  22. rdhstlr23

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    Him making millions has no bearing on the situation. It's about treating someone the way you'd want them to treat you, or your son, or your daughter, etc.

    Stay classy.
     
  23. Ozzy

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    RG111 most definitely speaks better than you type!!
     
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  24. Clipse

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    Excuse me, 2 great games, one abover average game (Redskins) and 7 awful to average games. That Cowboys game was by no means whatsoever a good game. Pretty bad game actually. Missed throw after missed throw after fumble after fumble. Much of that in the redzone. He was a big reason we lost that game. The Raiders game was very average as well. Lots of missed throws including 2 missed throws to wide open players in the endzone. We lose that game easily if the OL didn't have their best run blocking performance in a long time.

    I've seen everything I need to see from Matt Moore. When you look up mediocre in the dictionary, there's a picture of Matt Moore. He is what he is, a backup QB who can come in for an injury and play decent. As soon as you name him a starter from day one, you get more than double turnovers to TD's en route to the 1st overall pick in the draft. And he's injury prone, concussion prone.
     
  25. finyank13

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    Outwardly in public no because they are professional...amongst themselves absolutely.....dont be naive...Dansby was quoted just last week talking about how they have to keep TS, and letting him go would be wrong....
     
  26. finyank13

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    Not shocking, no mention of Ross and Ireland.....

     
  27. schmolioot

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    The only naivete is believeing that these multi-millionaire athletes actually care who the coach is, one way or another.

    I don't doubt that they all really liked tony, but they'll learn to like whoever the enxt guy is too. They aren't sitting around crying or losing sleep over tony being gone, believe me
     
  28. finyank13

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    so if the money is close either way, players don't weigh in the coach as part of the decision making process? I am pretty sure you hear often about how players go to NE for BB, or even Rex (although I dont know why).....
     
  29. schmolioot

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    Perhaps, but Sparano is not one of those guys. And even with BB and Ryan, it's more about playing for a winning organization rather than just the coach.
     
  30. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Bro what is the number 1 factor that NE is a winning organization?

    The Ownership and Coach no?
     
  31. RoninFin4

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    Tom Brady.
     
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  32. schmolioot

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    Well, tom Brady is pretty important.

    If BB retired tomorrow, players would still go to NE and they would likely continue to play well.

    Coaches come and go. Dansby isn't going to be demanding a trade because Sparano was fired. It doesn't mean that much to him.
     
  33. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Matt Cassell in 2008 highly disagrees......

    So players dont get mad? I gotta think Pennington's views are pretty close to most....and for the record, I think they should have fired him a while ago, I am just countering a point...

    http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...ton-not-happy-with-treatment-of-tony-sparano/

    Can we all agree that Pennington is as respected and even keeled as they come, someone that would actually know how the players feel...?
     
  34. schmolioot

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    Pennington isn't in the locker room. He doesn't know what the players are thinking are feeling. and all he said was that he didn't like the way the Harbaugh thing went down.

    He also said that he has no issues with an owner making a decision to fire any coach, even one he liked because that's the owners perogative.
     
  35. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    ok....
     
  36. RoninFin4

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    Stick Matt Cassel on the Patriots this year and I think you get very, very different results than what he had in 2008. The Patriots defense this year is much worse than it was in 2008. And, from what we've seen, I think there's more smoke and mirrors to Matt Cassel than actual substance.
     
  37. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Exactly my point.....:up:
     
  38. RoninFin4

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    I think you've missed my point though. Tom Brady is what makes the Patriots go. He's been the one constant during their winning reign of the last 10 years. I highly doubt Matt Cassel would've delivered a Super Bowl title throwing to David Patten, David Givens, Troy Brown, and Daniel Graham.
     
  39. finyank13

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    yup...
     

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