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Herald: Cowher and Fisher are first to be contacted

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  1. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    A person "briefed on the situation" tells the Miami Herald that the Dolphins' initial calls to head coaching candidates will likely be to ex-Steelers coach Bill Cowher and ex-Titans coach Jeff Fisher.
    The Dolphins have either initiated contact with both coaches, "or planned to shortly." Cowher has said that he does not plan to coach next season while Fisher's agent said he would be willing to listen to all offers. Ex-Ravens coach Brian Billick, who is also reportedly on Miami's radar, confirmed that he's interested in the job.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/15/2548447/former-baltimore-ravens-coach.html


    Cowher has been my first choice for months now and if he wants the keys to this ride I think we would be foolish to not give him the keys.
    I dont want Billick. As I mentioned in Club he doesnt impress me. If I wanted a Raven it'd be Ozzie Newsome. Billick just strikes me as very arrogant and he hasnt been very good since he was Minnesota's OC.
    Fisher Im kind of indifferent on at this point. Hes not one of my top 5 choices but I think we could do much worse.
     
  2. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    The interesting thing about Brian Billick is that he would probably push HARD to replace Jeff Ireland with Mike Mayock after the Draft...especially if Carl Peterson comes on as sort of a football czar that could keep an eye on Mayock and make sure he's not in over his head.

    I have to be honest...I wouldn't mind that. I'm not a fan of Billick at all but I like Mayock. I think he would work as hard as anyone ever has to try and find the right players. There would be zero negligence with him as General Manager. Everything will be meticulously planned and thoroughly debated.
     
  3. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Don't settle for Fisher.
     
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  4. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    settle? he should be our first choice
     
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  5. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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  6. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Yeah because our team can finally be mired in mediocrity without a SB win.
     
  7. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Out of curiosity, if Billick could keep Nolan as the DefCord, would he become a more appealing candidate for Head Coach?
     
  8. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    No. Cleanse this regime. Any holdovers make any new coach less of a selling point...
     
  9. aesop

    aesop Well-Known Member

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    Sparano is the dark horse.
     
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  10. MAFishFan

    MAFishFan Team Tannehill

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    nolan was his D coordinator in baltimore...i'm all in on billick
     
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  11. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    The issue with Cowher, Gruden, and Billick is sometimes coaches who have been out of the game for a while can get a little passed by. I know none of these guys are ancient by any means, but Fisher is just a year removed. And lets be honest, he had some great teams and faired decently despite being shackled to Vince Young. Take away one lone Super Bowl victory(in seasons that the Steelers and Ravens simply got hot at the right time), and there's not a lot of difference between these guys...including Andy Reid.
     
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  12. Desides

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    Bilick? Really? What has he ever done to make anyone think he’s the right guy to coach this roster to the Super Bowl?

    There are pros and cons to Cowher, Fisher, Gruden, and the various coordinators out there. Bilick? I only see cons.
     
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  13. I do not get why everyone likes Fischer so much. He coached in one of the easier divisions and had mediocre results.
     
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  14. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    He’s coached up some really, really bad teams; he’s been saddled with players he didn’t want (Vince Young); went 13-3 with Kerry Collins coming off the bench; and he doesn’t want personnel power.
     
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  15. padre31

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    He's teams were always solid and well prepped SG, that is what I liked about his time in TN it just seemed like there was never a time when I thought "the Titans have no shot of winning this one".
     
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  16. Yes solid teams I will give you but never a powerhouse. He kind of reminds me of Tony. Everybody likes him and respects him but his record is not all that impressive.
     
  17. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, when he had good Qb play, he won, Fisher's prime pretty much tracks along with Steve McNair's career, once McNair left Fish was not as successful.

    And I like the fact he has a seat on the Competition Cmte, and he was successful at developing late rd picks into All Pro caliber players.
     
  18. Califin

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    Brian Billick?

    Seriously??

    No thanks, the last time I saw that dude as a head coach, we were ENDING his career, and using his pathetic, Camarillo trampled carcasse, to keep from hitting the floor at 0-16.
     
  19. PHINANALYST

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    Cowher remains my main choice .... not getting the 'oh, he doesn't get up a 5 to watch film right now' ... it must mean his heart isn't in it deal ...

    why the hell should he get up at 5 ...

    the man has won consistently ... i say again - consistently ... and pushed the envelope on offense to do it.

    I know Chucky has a never ending engine -- but so what. Cowher retired due to family ... unfortunately his wife is gone -- i have ZERO doubt that IF and WHEN he does take a coaching job ... he will have plenty of fire in the belly.

    I have zero interest in Billick ... 'ok' with Gruden or Fisher ....
     
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  20. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    I'd be upset with Billick.

    He was a 'genius' offensive coordinator with Cris Carter, Jake Reed, Terry Allen, Robert Smith, Randy Moss, Warren Moon and Randall Cunningham running his offenses.

    He went to Baltimore and rode a Hall of Fame-laden defense and special teams to success while his offenses were.....less than prolific. 24, 16, 14, 26, 21, 31, 24, 17, 22. Those are Billick's offensive rankings in yardage in Baltimore. Did Ozzy Newsome not know how to acquire offensive talent? Things have picked up considerably under the Harbaugh/Cameron regime.

    Jeff Fisher -- 6 winning seasons in 17 years. We'd be fundamentally well-coached and physical. But I also feel like we'd essentially be a philosophically more conservative version of the New York Jets. Run the ball, play defense. I think now he heads to San Diego anyway.

    I'm pretty resigned to the fact that I'm not going to be happy with our selection for head coach. Really don't want Billick at all.
     
  21. schmolioot

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    If we can't get cowher or Gruden, or even fisher, I fail to see who this big name coach with experience is that will move the needle and excite the fan base.

    Unless there is some mystery guy that is just way out of left field, I don't see where ross is going with this. Maybe he really thinks he can get Cowher.
     
  22. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Same with Sparano.
     
  23. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    This search already smacks of inexperience IMO. They've already set the bar sky high by publicly stating (and leaking) that they're gunning for someone 'experienced'. And I fear they'll likely back themselves into a corner with that directive.

    They're not getting Cowher or Gruden (one, possibly both, of whom would be mistakes IMO...and those are their top choices). You're either going to get a retread that the fan base won't be happy with, or you're going to throw a boatload of cash at a guy who had to be convinced to take the job (a la Saban). That really, really worries and disappoints me.

    It bothers me that they don't appear to be looking for the best coach. They're trying to take shortcuts and win a press conference.

    I just hope there's something to Ross' "Young Don Shula" comment.
     
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  24. DolfanTom

    DolfanTom Livin' and Dyin' w/ Ryan!

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    Billick won a Superbowl w/ Trent Dilfer as QB. Just sayn'. His teams were consistent performers, w/out greatness at QB. Granted, his D was elite, but ours is pretty good too (and could get better, especially if Nolan hangs around). AND - Billick COULD be coaching the most talented QB he's ever had (depending on who we draft). Count me in as more than fine w/ Billick.
     
  25. vmarcilfan75

    vmarcilfan75 blah...blah...blah... Club Member

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    Did you guys hear Mayock last night? He said something to the effect he texted Billick about the Miami HC job and BB never replied. Every other time he texted him about anything he always replied.
     
  26. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    I think I'd rather we kept Sparano than hire Fisher.
     
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  27. DOLFANMIKE

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    There are my top two choices for now, but I'm not sold on Fisher. Cowher is the guy I want as HC
     
  28. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    IMO, people like to say that he rode an elite defense, which he did. However, that defense wasn't elite when he took over. Yes, the key cog was there in Ray Lewis, but the year before Billick took over, that defense was 26th in the league and hadn't rated above 20 in three years. In his first year there, that defense was 6th in the league.

    IMO, it should be a credit to him. He came in, identified the strengths of the team, and went with them instead of trying to force his own philosophy upon the team.

    The offense goes as the quarterback goes, IMO. Without an elite passer, it is hard to run an offense that is geared around the passing game.
     
  29. djphinfan

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    Cowher is my first choice as well coach but I just don't wanna have to put on a full fuz^%ing courst press to get him to come here, if he's gonna make this difficult and not legitimately come to us and say he's interested than to me, thats a red flag to leave his *** alone until he figures out if he wants to smile on tv or be a goddamn football coach..Quite frankly this whole we have to court you BS is wearing on me..

    If I'am Ross I interview all 3..Cowher, Gruden, and Fisher, whichever one shows the most desire to want to coach the MIAMI DOLPHINS, GETS THE JOB..
     
  30. Larry Little

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    Not to mention that Fisher was tied to an awful owner.
     
  31. Larry Little

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    Now, I hope we get Fisher more than anything. It'll be a genuine pleasure watching the doubters eat crow.
     
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  32. ckparrothead

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    You get me Bill Cowher, Jeff Fisher or Jon Gruden, and I'll be happy. There are pluses and minuses to each one but I think they're all good coaches.
     
  33. ckparrothead

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    I'm wondering why people don't think the "young Don Shula" comment could have been referring to Jeff Fisher. They have a lot in common. Fisher is still young. He's been to a championship but couldn't seal the deal, same as Shula in Baltimore. You could even call their coaching styles and demeanors similar.
     
  34. mullingan

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    I live in Tn and I think Fisher would be a great coach in Miami. One thing I always knew when I watched the Titans is that they would be ready to play and play a hard nosed, even borderline dirty, brand of football. His teams would smack you in the mouth and say "what you gonna do about it!!". If Young would have had 1/2 the talent/dedication he was suppose to have things would have been a lot different in TN.
     
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  35. GreysonWinfield

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    Except he never devoloped a passer or wr while he was there. The same can be said for his time in Minnesota. He had Carter who was a veteran, Moss who had monster talent and only Henning could have destroyed him, Cullpepper & Cunningham who were already experienced.
     
  36. The_Dark_Knight

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    Yea, you're right!! The only thing Billick ever did was win a Super Bowl. He must REALLY suck :lol:
     
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  37. padre31

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    TDK, bro, I knew you were in the military, did not know you were a scout/sniper..

    One *Official* Game Day thread from you and Sparano did not make it out..:lol:
     
  38. padre31

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    There is a painful reality here Bro, Miami is not that great a destination for a Head Coach or hot coordinators.

    Look at how many careers have come to Miami to die, that makes an impression ceterus parabus.
     
  39. Aquafin

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    I dont think it is a given that if Miami made a big push for Cowher that he would not succeed how would any of us know this ? I think someone will ***** about it no matter who we hire.

    I would not hesitate to interview Les Miles , Mike Shula , Jeff Fisher , Mike Martz , Bill Cowher , Randy Shannon (maybe) and Jon Gruden

    are there any former miami assistant coaches that we could look at ?
     
  40. Fin D

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    So did Barry Switzer.
     
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