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Hey Mr. Ross...The Fisher to Miami thread..

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by djphinfan, Dec 16, 2011.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Maybe this thread will get back to him, he seems to want whats best for us, and does listen to us..

    I'am making my case for Jeff Fisher to be our next coach...

    I just wanna quote an opinion from a poster on this board, I think he nailed it..Larry is his name..

    ''I live in Nashville, so I have heard a lot about Jeff Fisher over the years. I know him probably as well as any NFL fan, and I can tell you the guy is a 'real' leader like Shula was/is. His guys not only like him, they respect him. Fisher is also a no-nonsense head coach. He won't do silly motivational campaigns about feeding a wolf or hanging up lobster traps in the locker room. He's honest and genuine with his team. He doesn't try and 'trick' them into being motivated. He's a great game manger, isn't afraid to take risks, isn't a jerk that rubs anyone the wrong way, and is respectful of other teams and players.

    From what I gather, the two reasons Fisher left the Titans were:

    1) Bud Adams forced the team to select Vince Young. Fisher tried his best to coach him up, but Young is/was an idiot with awful technique. Adams could not admit how wrong he was, and probably still can't.

    2) Bud Adams always held a strict anti-nepotism policy. Fisher respected this policy, until Adams hired his own grandson in the front office. Fisher felt this was hypocritical... do as I say, not as I do. So, since Fisher 'technically' had it in his contract to hire anyone he wanted, he brought in his own son.

    People need to understand the owner we're talking about here. Adams is a guy who was fined by the NFL for flipping off opposing fans from his visitors luxury box. The guy is a low-class bonehead. Believe me when I say that Fisher and his staff were hamstrung by him. Hopefully Ross wouldn't do the same.

    Jeff Fisher, IMHO, when he returns, will be one of the best coaches in the league. He was about one yard from winning a Superbowl. He still wants it.

    He also had an 11-7 record vs. Cowher's Steelers.''


    I especially like that liitle factoid at the end...Head to head baby, in the toughest division in the league..He came out on top against the guy that seemingly gets the most love...Head to head is no joke..

    So if you want to post why or who you want, I'am sure somehow, Mr. Ross will be reading..

    For me, because I'am not hearing how Cowher or Gruden Want to be our coach, and I am hearing how Jeff is interested, then that's really important you know?..We don't wanna have to convince a coach to come here, we've already done that with Saban, Parcells, and Jimmy Johnson...We want them to want to be here, and want to be here long term, and will not run from their responsibilities before the mission is completed, we don't want someone who has alterior motives for the job, we want someone who will bleed aqua..

    Fisher has been gone for a while, his first love the titans, are now a distant memory, he came so close to winning it all, so you know the desire is there, he kept the job for a very long time, and when he left, the titan fans respected the hell out of the man, and to me, that says a lot..

    The man is respected in this league very very much, and playin and winning in this town, and in that stadium, is going to be a monumental task, so for me, I would like to go on the record and say, Mr.Ross, I would love Jeff Fisher to be our coach..
     
  2. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Nice right up DJ i liked it. Personally i don't think Ross would be the problem with Fisher doing what he wants it's Ireland that would be the bump in the road for him.

    Edit: Soon to be two bumps if Carl Peterson gets involved.
     
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  3. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    I'm willing to accept whoever Ross hires, including Fisher. Now go get me a QB.
     
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  4. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'd take Jeff Fisher add head coach here in a heart beat.
     
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  5. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    If memory serves someone, maybe ck, has posted that Carl, Fisher, and Ireland have an early connection. If so it may just be the best route to take and I, for one, have no problem with it!

    So ............... MR. Ross make it happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  6. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    eh I don't see how feeding the wolf thing was "tricking" anybody into anything.
     
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  7. Two Tacos

    Two Tacos Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I thought you were into the wolf thing dj?
     
  8. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to take the stance any coach is good if your qb is good and I'll just point at the colts team this year trash coach can make the sb with good qb.
     
  9. Caps

    Caps Movimiento Juvenil

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    If anyone in high places happens to be reading this...

    I'm fine with Jeff Fisher as HC. He's still youngish, hungry (hasn't won a SB, no coach has ever done it with two different teams) and has a proven track record of success.
     
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  10. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Fisher was a damn good coach, its not his fault he was saddled with a ****ty QB after McNair left.
     
  11. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    Fisher is a great man. I respect the hell out of him. And he can grow some damn fine facial hair. He's also a motivator, a character guy, and a genuine person. He possesses all these attributes on top of being a great coach, great game planner and great strategist. I would love to have him in Miami.
     
  12. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    always been a Fisher fan. got the most with the least.
     
  13. Striking

    Striking Junior Member

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    I'm already a Fisher guy. I believe he can do very good things in Miami with a better QB than McNair and a GM he can work with.
     
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  14. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    it don't work like that with fisher. If fisher wants a qb fine. If he doesn't he won't be overruled this time. He won't let another vince young situation occur. Ireland will not have final say, fisher will
     
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  15. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I wonder after dealing with Vince Young's lack of motivation/love for the game, he'd be OK with Robert Griffin III after his latest comments about the NFL being "plan B" and aspiring to be a lawyer.
     
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  16. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I was...Love that kind of sh&^..
     
  17. Hobiesailor

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    I don't think that RG3 wanting to be a lawyer is the same as Vince Young getting a pay day and being too lazy to put in the work. Being a lawyer ain't easy and if he is willing to put in the work to be a lawyer, and he chooses to sign a contract to be a football player, he will put the same work into being a Football Player. Guys are one injury away from not being in the league, don't hurt to have other dreams and aspirations afterwords. Its better than a lot of guys who put all their focus into football, get injured, and have nothing. I know for D*** sure that there are people on this board who think that some football players are ignorant and ill spoken. Why are we dissing on a guy who has other intellectual pursuits?
     
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  18. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Great post DJ...I almost read the whole thing.

    I agree whole heartedly. I said in another thread, that Cowher and Gruden, although not very old by any means, have been out of the game for a while. And the game can easily pass you by. Fisher is only a year removed. And the difference between a Fisher or Reid, is a a matter of a lucky/hot run when compared to Cowher. The Colts were the best team in the NFL that year by a country mile. And the same goes for the Ravens under Billick, yes a great all-time defense, but also a wild card team that got hot. And Gruden has struggled to produce a winner since his Super Bowl. I'd be thrilled with Fisher or Reid if Philly is dumb enough to release him.
     
  19. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    No one of any significance other than Lucky is reading this.
     
  20. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    every beat reporter in south florida trolls this site Seth..A lot of players do as well.
     
  21. Larry Little

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  22. Larry Little

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    No way RGIII could be anywhere near the headache Vince Young was. Young is lazy, arrogant, and immature. He's a guy who excelled on his athleticism alone, and never had to actually work for anything. From what I hear, RGIII is a high-character guy. I wouldn't worry about that.
     
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  23. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I am not disagreeing, but all I'm saying is that you can't deny RG3 has one red flag... commitment to the game. How do you know he won't decide he's done with the NFL after a few years and decide to go to law school and become a lawyer? I heard that RG3 had to be talked into returning to Baylor to play football this year because he wanted to go to law school.

    Personally I wouldn't hesitate to select RG3 with our draft pick if Barkley isn't on the board, but I'm just saying... would Fisher?
     
  24. Larry Little

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    I also want to stress... we likely aren't the only team that wants Jeff Fisher. I'm happy that we're hearing that Fisher is on the top of our list, and I hope that's true. However, as much as I'd like it to happen, I'm trying really hard not to get my hopes up too high.

    However, I really have a deep feeling that this is a situation where if Fisher gets away, we could really come to regret it. As in a, 'We didn't sign Brees, but instead gave up a 2nd for Culpepper' type of regret. As in the type of regret us Dolphin fans would have had if, in the early days of the Dolphins, Joe Robbie wouldn't have hired a young head coach with a great regular-season record, but who had a bad post-season record, including two NFL championships lost to two inferior football teams.

    I hope it's my bias because I live in Nashville.
     
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  25. Larry Little

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    Nah, I got ya, bro. I just wanted to say that I think the RGIII situation, if his heart was in becoming a lawyer, would be very different from the Vince Young situation. It might be an unfair comparison. Unless I've heard wrong, I think RGIII is a high-character dude.

    I bet if anyone is going to do his due diligence in scouting an 'athletic' QB, it's Jeff Fisher. He might get burned again, but it won't be because he didn't do his homework.
     
  26. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I wasn't trying to compare the two from a character standpoint, which seemingly is what people thought I was trying to say. Both players raised red flags about their commitment level to the NFL for completely differently reasons. But does Fisher want to deal with another quarterback whose heart may not be truly in the game?

    This is honestly why my choices for the Dolphins in the first round have went to Luck (unlikely), Barkley, then Griffin. Before it was a 2A, 2B situation for Barkley and Griffin but it's pretty safe to say Barkley has moved up the list for me. I wouldn't be upset with either player though.
     
  27. Sethdaddy8

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    In that case, I would like to doubly emphasize my point...and Lucky's superiority over them.

    But for the record, I am on board 100% for Fisher. That has become my A1 hopeful scenario.
    But as a Philly area guy, similar to Larry in Nashville...if the Iggles are stupid enough to fire Reid, I would love him here too.
     
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  28. Larry Little

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    Reid and Fisher are made of the same type of stuff, IMHO. I'd be pleased as punch with either one.
     
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  29. unluckyluciano

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    i'd be comatose as kool aid.
     
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  30. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    My personal ranking as of now:
    1.) Jeff Fisher
    2.) Jon Gruden
    3.) Young Guy or assistant from another team
    4.) The Chin
    5.) Anyone else
    6.) Tony Sparano
    7.) Brian Billick

    Have I mentioned I don't want Billick before? lol
     
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  31. PHINANALYST

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    Steve Young wanted to be a lawyer too .... and well - he is, now .....
     
  32. rafael

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    I don't recall Steve Young almost quitting football before his junior year to go to law school. I don't like it when you have to "convince" somebody to come back. That smacks of Jimmy Johnson being convinced to return to coach the Dolphins after he quit. I'm sure he worked hard, but once you decide you'd rather do something else then it's really doubtful that you'll ever be the best at what your were "convinced" into doing, at least not for long.

    As for Fisher, I like him better than any of the other name guys. He reminds me of Sparano in that he's a grinder, is respected by is players and was successful when he had good QB play.
     
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  33. jw3102

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    I have to agree. No matter who the next HC is, if the Dolphins fail to get a franchise QB, we will all be having this same discussion about a new head coach in three more years.
     
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  34. Larry Little

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    That is a good point. In college a player that is half-committal can still excel if they're a great athlete. In the NFL, where everyone is a great athlete, that's not nearly the case. You have to have a great all-around game, and the dedication to develop it. Hopefully our scouts do their due diligence on him.

    My point earlier... which I think I failed to make properly... was that RGIII might be the kind of guy that if his heart wasn't in it 100%, he would likely be honest with scouts about it. Unlike a more self-centered, immature player who may be more concerned with just getting that paycheck. So an NFL team... like our beloved Dolphins... wouldn't invest a high pick and a respectable salary to a rookie QB who was going to half-a$$ his job.
     
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  35. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Proof: Sam Hurd
     
  36. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Well you heard wrong.
     
  37. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    And you know this how?
    Not calling you out, just wondering what you know/heard.
     
  38. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I'm fine with providing the info where I read it, but perhaps all stories should be verified somewhat before people just assume them to be true (not that you assumed it to be so, but based on some replies here about Griffin makes it seem like some people have).

    http://www.chron.com/sports/solomon...n-embraces-expectations-2196045.php#loopBegin
    He didn't have to be talked into playing football instead of going to law school, he had to be talked out of trying to do both at the same time.
     
  39. padre31

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    You no likey Billick?

    I like him, but feel like he is the "Settle for" choice, he's a good HC but..not exactly a hot name so the marketing I suppose, has gotten me.
     
  40. padre31

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    What kills me about that is Ireland had Mariani targeted to sign as a UDFA, the Titans snaked him.
     
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