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What about Russel Wilson?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by NolePhin15, Dec 20, 2011.

  1. NolePhin15

    NolePhin15 Well-Known Member

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    Why isn't Russel Wilson being talked about more as a future draft choice. The guy is a GREAT athlete, has a great arm, and is very smart.
     
  2. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    Because he's like 5'11'' or so.
     
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  3. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    He's a little bit undersized for his position.
     
  4. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    No. He reminds me too much of a crappy Steve McNair.
     
  5. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    In a nutshell this is the answer. Additionally, he is not overly athletic enough like Mike Vick in order to move around and outside of the pocket in order to see down field.
     
  6. NorFlaFin

    NorFlaFin Active Member

    Hes also the Rockies 2nd baseman of the future.
     
  7. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I like his game, have watched him for yrs now.

    Thing with him is, when he releases the ball, you cannot see how he is seeing over his OL and yet the ball lands on the receiver well enough.

    Personally, I feel if David Garrard can have success in the NFL there is no reason why Wilson cannot have success they remind me of each other in terms of stature and build, both kind of blocky, shorter guys.
     
  8. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Because (unfavorable comparison to other black QB).
     
  9. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    ? Garrard has to be 4 inches taller. If Wilson was Garrards size he would be a very good prospect. I'd bet RW is 5'10 though.
     
  10. gilv13

    gilv13 Well-Known Member

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    For what its worth, he got an invite for the Senior Bowl, so maybe if he impresses coaches he'll get a camp invite.
     
  11. finfaninilinois

    finfaninilinois Active Member

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    if we take a big 10 Qb i would rather take Persa from northwestern
     
  12. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Garrard's listed at 6'1

    There is absolutely -0- chance they draft Wilson, he is not a "prototype" or "planet theory" or "big man's game" player.
     
  13. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    I'm willing to bet Garrard is taller then 6'1
     
  14. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    IDK bro, he looks shorter then 6'1 to me, could be he is so stocky, but he looks like Michael Turner.
     
  15. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    6017 at combine. He's closer to 6'2 then 6'1.
     
  16. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    David Garrard hasn't had success in the NFL, and he's at least two inches taller than Wilson.
     
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  17. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yes, he has. His career QB rating is 85.8, and he's had two seasons of 90.8 and 102.2 QB ratings. That's successful .
     
  18. gandalfin

    gandalfin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    His height is the reason he's not given higher draft status. However, during a Wisconsin game earlier this year they did a graphic where the Wisconsin OL was actually taller and bigger than the Packers OL. Just saying. Could he be another Doug Flutie?

    Since doubling up on a draft position sometimes works out, perhaps it would be worth using a 5th or 6th for him; this will be the likely rounds that he will be drafted in as it looks right now.
     
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  19. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    You can list all the stats you want. Fact remains David Garrard shouldn't be the measuring stick for successful when it comes to QBs.
     
  20. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    The career rating isn't very good and while he has had one really good season, he's been inconsistent and unable to get his team to any sort of stability.

    I'm not going to get in the habit of referring to one really good season as real success.
     
  21. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    He's been alright, not great, not bad, he's normally topped my 60% completion/1.5 to 1 td to int ratio yardstick of a passable starting NFL Qb.

    Career winning record as a starter, he just says "Jacksonville" not bad, not great, just a good player.

    Thing about him is I've never seen another 6'1/244 pd Qb in the NFL.
     
  22. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    There's a short guy in New Orleans doing pretty good right now.
     
  23. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    No. I saw him play against Ohio St. this year and he was not impressive at all. He was clearly undersized and overwhelmed.
     
  24. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    Think about that. You just compared Russel Wilson to Drew Brees.
     
  25. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    It's really not all that terrible a comparison. When looking at college production (both as seniors and cumulative) they compare favorably.
     
  26. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    Thats nice, so do a lot of players. They are not similar in the way they play however, Russell Wilson relies on moving around and letting his recievers get open and if not he checks down. He can stand in the pocket against inferior defenses, he can not against above average ones.
     
  27. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I like the kids game man, and before Matt moores emergence here, I had us doubling up on the position in this years draft, and Wilson being that 2nd guy.
     
  28. NolePhin15

    NolePhin15 Well-Known Member

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    Russell Wilson vs. OSU

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    62.5 completion percentage
    253 yards
    3 TD's
    0 ints
    159.8 QB Rating

    I'm not saying we should use our first round on him, or even the second round. But if we can't get RGIII, Luck, or Barkley, I wouldn't even think twice about using a middle rounder on him. I want him over both Landry Jones and Weeden.
     
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  29. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Drew Brees moved around quite a bit in college too.
     
  30. Anonymous

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    You clearly said he has never had success in the NFL. Meaning he has had never had a good, successful season in the NFL. That's wrong. He's had some successful seasons in the NFL.
     
  31. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That wasn't the point of my post, so...
     
  32. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I sure did.
     
  33. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    Maybe a late round flier or UDFA, after they've drafted a top tier prospect in the first.
     
  34. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    I'd take Wilson in the 5th round or so in a heartbeat. Yea he's short, but the kid can ball, and is certainly worth taking a flyer on with a 5th round pick.
     
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  35. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    man, thats a lot of disrespect for this kind of football player..
     
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  36. Laces Out

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    I would say that his year at Wisconsin did nothing but help his case. I don't really know what will happen with his baseball career, or how that will affect football. I have some feelers out about that with some people in the know with the Rockies.
     
  37. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    He also isn't a offensive or defensive lineman.... I kid, I kid :up:
     
  38. Skeet84

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    For the size factor it certainly does not help that he is only 5"11 But its not like it hasn't been done before (Drew Brees is currently a top QB same height).
    Say what you want about Wilson but him transferring to a school and picking up a brand new offense and only playing 1 year he did amazing.
    Also the last QB to win at NC State hasn't had a bad NFL Career either (Phillip Rivers who also had much better talent around him).

    Its insulting to think he shouldn't be drafted. I think he belongs somewhere in the 4th rd maybe even the late 3rd.
     
  39. jw3102

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    Wow, this certainly shows how bad things are in Dolphin land when the desire of some fans is that the team should should draft the next David Garrard. Personally I was hoping more for the next Aaron Rodgers, or Peyton Manning. Drafting a player in the category of Garrard would only ensure that the Dolphins remain a mediocre team for years to come. In fact, while I am not a big Matt Moore fan, I think he is a better NFL QB right now then Garrard ever was.
     
  40. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    doubling up on QBs doesn't always work out either. The Panthers drafted Clausen and Pike two years ago and both were awful.
    Russell Wilson is about as much of a NFL QB as Seneca Wallace. Great athlete, career backup.
     

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