*The Official 2011-12 NBA Thread*

Can this stop please?

Please?

 

Stop What?

 

This back and forth between Heat fans and everyone else is beyond old.

 

You mean this message board thing?

 

Oh.

 

They have enough. They will add a big if one shakes loose.

They Like Kenyon Martin alot.

 

Kenyon Martin bought out his contract, but he can't sign with a team till March, when he gains his full release. (rules of his contract state, that he can sign with a team, when his Chinese team is eliminated. Their playoffs are in March.)

 

I just saw highlites of the game. Man, forget Cole. Wade was amazing.

 

No seriously......don't forget Cole. Because soon enough, the Cole world will know his name

 

Its chilly out, apparently a Cole Front moved into SFL last night.

 

The thing is, the heat were 2 games away from being champions, and you admit they improve, yet they lose the finals. So a team that didnt reach the finals, will improve MORE SO than a team (that got better and added pieces) and was 2 games away from winning the whole thing?

 

Cole kid looks legit

 

Little late to the prom princess...lol

This kid could easily be the difference in 4-5 Heat titles and 1 or 2.

Gotta admidt, I like the kid. Comes to Miami with three big names and all the hype in the world and busts 14 in the 4th! That's moxy.

 

I don't think Boik realizes how his analysis came off.

 

Well I was to drunk yesterday during the game to post, and I just woke up.....so I decided to say how impressed I was with him. I'm always late, that's why I have a kid on the way

 

Do you really know how your analysis is coming off? It's coming off as wishful thinking.

SO now they NEED to add ANOTHER superstar to just merely keep up with OKC? LOL.

 

I think the Knicks fail to make the playoffs.

 

BTW, today is a momentous day.

TODAY marks.........exactly 4,000 days since the Knicks won a playoff game.

 

Wheres the party

 

Tonight in Golden State, they will stop the game to honor the 2000-2001 Knicks.

April 29th 2001. Last Knicks playoff win. They ended up losing the series to Toronto 3-2.

 

BTW Knick fans...get on your game..the Bulls fans are putting you all to shame.

Last night, Bulls fan was arguing with me on twitter about the Lakers looking better than the Heat so far.

Pound for pound, Bulls fans have been the BEST haters the last two seasons. It's as if the ECF's never happened, and as an astute Bulls fan pointed out to me last week on twitter..."That series was really a 7 game series..the Heat just got lucky to win it in 5"

 

How long since Lamar Smith's tumble in the endzone in OT? Makes me wonder why i even like sports.

 

Yeah..but reasoning is sound. You see...I have every team that was in the playoffs last year, improving. Then Milwaukee will improve enough, while the Knicks regress. Everybody will improve. There will be a black cloud over New York. Like a plague. and the streak will reach 4,500 days before you have a chance to win a playoff game again.

it's not your conclusion. it is your reasoning that is flawed.

 

we are talking very similar futility. Knicks and Dolphins are kindred spirits. Almost mirror images of each other.

 

There is not one metric that supports an improvement by OKC drastic enough to beat the Heat. Heat is the better defending, rebounding and Offensive team as well. For OKC to overtake Miami in all three categories...impossible. To overtake them in 2 of those categories, would take a massive improvement and massive regression on Miami's part.

Reason being..it CAN'T, WON'T happen.

The "improvement" reasoning is not sound to argue for OKC over Miami.

 

ONLY injury can defeat the Heat this year.

Don't blame me. Blame whoever thought it was a good idea to give 15 million a year to Tyson Chandler.

 

If I'm the coach of the Heat I'd start Coles, put lucky Chalmers on the bench. This is your season rape the NBA.

 

well...first of all..I thought that signing Melo outright would have been a coup (no trade, keep Gallo and WC), but let's assume that HAD to happen.

and Chris Paul, was realistically not an option, since he was being traded.

Okay..two things...

Fire D'Antoni.
Sign Dwight Howard outright in offseason.

That was enough to have coin flip series vs. Heat...unless of course..Amare breaks down.

That's best case scenario.

MOST realistic scenario:

Fire D'Antoni
Sign Deron Williams outright

Deron, Melo and Amare is enough to compete with the Heat. You add some other pieces, namely a ton of three point shooters. Good ones.

 

So, yeah. Cole is pretty good.

 

Nah.

The starting unit is getting big leads...Cole gives energy for the second unit. I like him right where he is. He has no pressure about getting in foul trouble, he is playing free.

 

Sec, do you think Miami would have been better off playing Chalmers over Cole down the stretch last night for shooting/spacing reasons? Obviously, he knocked down those two shots to close it out for us late, but that's not really his game, right?

 

Actually, that is his game.

But there was another thing at play there. Mario Chalmers actually kinda owns Derrick Rose. He has big games against him, defensively. But as much as he does well vs. Rose, he gets absolutely destroyed by Rajon Rondo. Rondo abuses him, and I think Spo just tried something different against him. Rondo is Chalmers nemesis.

 

Is that his game? I was under the impression that his perimeter shooting isn't a strength of his.

 

It's going to be a long season arguing about the Heat. It seems a pretty futile exercise, but I might as well join in -

They're the best team in the league. It isn't even really close. It is a down year in terms of real contenders (not saying this to disparage the Heat, who would be a contender in any season, but it is the truth) and the young teams (Chicago, OKC and Memphis is you're into that kind of thing) aren't good enough yet to challenge the Heat.

But I've been saying this since last season - the Heat have plenty of talent. It doesn't matter who they add or how many games they win in the regular season - they (and specifically LeBron) have to prove that they can get over the hump in the playoffs. The only team that can beat them is themselves, and there really isn't anything in the regular season they can do to impress me - because I already consider them nearly unstoppable.

That has to carry over to the playoffs. LeBron is an animal in games like that Xmas day game - where there is very little REAL pressure and he can make the highlight plays. He HAS to do that in the playoffs. They almost did it without him last year, but they need him to show up.

Obviously health is the other factor - the compressed season could be bad for a guy like Wade that has battled injuries in the past.