Bowles and McCoy believed to be 2 Finalists

Not 1 rational post? I have a hard time believing you've read all of them. If you had, you would know I was never too keen on Fisher from the start. And the only reason I've been concerned Fisher chose the Rams is that it demonstrates this Franchise's ability to not land it's top candidate once again.

 

Perhaps we former season ticket holder are no longer going to the games because we are dissatisfied with Ross and the product on the field. We do not owe anything to the Dolphins or its ownership. If they want us to purchase season tickets, they need to upgrade the product and provide us with a winning organization.

Our attitude is based on how we see the organization being run by Ross since he became the majority owner. While the team has continued to decline on the field, Ross seemed more concerned with building a place where fans could go dance DURING the game. He convinced high profile entertainers to purchase part ownership of the team, thinking that this would entice football fans to come to the stadium.

The attitude of many fans has been caused by the fact that Ross has really done nothing to make these fans believe he really has any interest in putting a quality product on the field. Until he changes the perception of all the fans who are no longer interested in paying their hard earned money to watch an inferior product, attendance at Dolphin home games will continue to decline.

The problem is not the fans, it is the owner, and all the empty seats in the stadium this past year clearly showed this.

 

This is what I mean.

They could have landed Fisher. They chose not to. He didn't turn us down because of flaws, we turned him down because he wanted too much. You guys are making it sound like Fisher and all these other marquee names are laughing in our faces.

 

Way to many personal attacks in this thread. We are all fans guys trust me seeing what harbaugh has done anger me that we missed him. I didn't want fisher but he seemed like our top choice at a time. Regardless of what happened/happens none of us make that choice and we are all entitled to our own speculation and views of things. Sometimes we hit and sometimes we don't. Still no need to start going after one another. The rarity of this is why I read on this site....

 

The problem with the Dolphins over the last decade is that there have been far more misses than there have been hits. I think Dolphin fans are tired of all these misses and we are ready to see an owner and a GM who can actually hit far more often than they have over the last three years.

 

Then they should not have made Fisher their #1 choice and waited with baited breath while he made his decision. Either way you slice it, Ross conducted himself poorly in a coaching search once again. I listened to several respected former NFL persons discuss how Ross handled it. People who know much more about the reality of the situation than you or I. And they all agreed Ross has a lot of learning to do when it comes to being an NFL owner. So if you're telling me I'm being a whiny fan, you're also telling a lot of unbiased former GMs, former players, former coaches, etc. that they're being whiny and irrational. Maybe you think you know more than they do. Either way. It's your opinion and you're welcome to it.

 

I completely agree. We haven't been thrown a bone since the year we got bmarsh and dans by. Since then we have made some good acquisitions and some bad ones. But none that will throw the avg fan back into the stands on sundays

 

I agree that Marshall and Dansby have been good (if not great) acquisitions, but the players acquired through drafts have just been miserable. They've got to do better!

 

Not horrible but no epic players. Pouncey will play for us for years. Long with play for us for years odrick has been average I wish we had stayed where we were and drafted Thomas the free safety now on Seattle. We haven't hit on almost ANY late post 1st rounders though

 

Yes. They obviously should have put on their mindreading goggles and consulted a medium in order to assess the type of organizational structure Fisher would be comfortable with. The fact that they instead chose to meet with the guy (what nonsense!) and then gave him ample time to consider their offer (the horror! the horror!) clearly proves that Stephen Ross is incompetent.

 

Stephen Ross says that they had no "issues" with the arrangement of power with Fisher.

So Fisher basically just made a choice to go to a pile of crap franchise with an albatross contract at QB in a baseball city with horrible weather and rampant murder and crime.

 

He also turned down Indy with the "#1 best ever all time Qb" Andrew Luck coming to town, and a winning tradition.

The same Andrew Luck that one esteemed member of this forum, guaranteed to win a SB in "3 yrs or less".

Some folks see only what they wish to see Sect.

 

I must say JW that I do appreciate your passion for the Dolphins but I do not understand your distain for Stephen Ross. Like you, I was a long time season ticket holder, but unlike you I gave mine up after the 2004 season. I was almost duped into reapplying after the 2008 season but luckily I didn’t. I believe that blaming Ross for the demise of the Dolphins is akin to blaming Obama for the financial crisis.

 

Here is a Sports Illustrated, Peter King article that says what he believes was the reason Fisher chose the Rams over the Dolphins.

Fisher wanted to avoid another situation like he had in Tennessee, where owner Bud Adams, if he chose, could tell him what to do on personnel. Adams told him in 2006 to take Vince Young in the first round. Fisher didn't want to do that, but it was Adams' call. Now, understand this: I'm told reliably Fisher did not ask the Rams or Dolphins for final say on draft day, or total control over the roster. All he wanted was the ability to -- in the event he was categorically opposed to a decision being made by the general manager -- have a mechanism in place for a third party, like an owner, to decide which way the team would go. St. Louis was fine with that. Miami wanted to leave ultimate personnel authority with the GM, Jeff Ireland.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/01/16/divisionals/index.html

 

That is having final say. King, Fisher or anyone else can spin that how they want but being able to override the GM is having final say.

 

we should be the hottest chick in the club. were not.

 

It's either believe Ross/Ireland's spin or Fisher/King spin. Bottom line is you believe who you want to believe.

 

That ended when Saban left after lying to everyone.

 

Naw right now we are a 5, with a ******ed friend.

 

No it isn't. If you believe what King/Fisher are saying, then fine.

What they are saying, however, is Fisher wanted to overwrite the GM. That's having all the personal power. That's not spin, that's just fact. You can't trump the GM's moves if you don't have power over him.

 

[video=youtube;EwIEUflY6YI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwIEUflY6YI[/video]

 

not true. we lured Parcells here after that...then it really went to hell.

 

To win? absolutely. that is the whole point.

 

PLEASE take McCoy from us!!

 

For a cool 35 million and he was on his plane heading to Atlanta at the time, he had turned Wayne H down as well until he tossed in a dumpster full o cash.

The one thing all of this has taught me Sect, is that in the NFL, there are no shortcuts, few quick fixes work, when they do, they don't work for very long.

Fisher was the quick fix, granted when the owner targets the guy, you have to get him, but keep in mind since Saban there has been a small horde of people who said no thanks to the Franchise.

The other reality for the Dolphins is, high priced FA's rarely play as well as they did at with their last team, so that avenue should be looked on dimly imo.

 

Don't tell Dez Bryant that.

 

This option is a lot better I really hope we don't end up with moore and mccoy or bowles

 

Preface: I haven't read the whole thread, so please forgive if I'm posting what has already been said.

But, this (the bolded part) if true, then Ross is a fool. Plain and simple. All he had to do was say sure. Then, he could agree or disagree with his GM on a situation by situation basis. Now, not only did it cost us a solid HC, but he's put all his cards on the table for everyone to see that he is committed to Jeff Ireland as having full control on personnel decisions. Are you freakin' kidding me?

 

I actually thought about that, but I have to believe the lawyers and such have normal clauses to protect from any type of situation, foreseen or not. That is what they get paid for. For example, Nolan had an out in his contract with the Phins that let him out in certain situations and that is why he is gone.
As far as the point from ONE H............When I read the comment from Ross stating he had made his fortune hiring young hungry men that wanted it all, or something like that, That is Ross's Ireland. Young and hungry. Ross isnt going to fire Irish any time soon. He is setting up THIS business like he set up his fortune building business. Guys...........we might as well get used to Irish running our team. He is here for a WHILE..........like it or not.

 

You may very well be right about the contract stuff AFF. Dunno. As far as the bolded part...

 

The problem?

 

She probably has STDs.