Denver beat writer reporting that McCoy ...

You think Saints fans were thinking "Why do we have to settle for the passing game coordinator of a 9-7 team?" when they hired Sean Payton?

Or how about Green Bay when they hired the offensive coordinator for a 5-11 team that had the 32nd rated offense in the NFL?

Or how about Pittsburgh when they hired the defensive coordinator of a 6-10 team to be their head coach?

 

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Who is correct? Personaly, I'm going to trust alen over what some fan of the Broncos says.

 

In 2005 with SF, Mike McCarthy had the 32nd ranked offense in the NFL. I will reserve judgement on McCoy he may do much better running his own show.

 

Would love to read some archived Niner forums on McCarthy from that season. Would be quite a contrast from Packer forums today, I'm guessing.

 

Its not just what I have been told, the fact that he is apparently Dan Henning's little Protoge bothers the hell out of me.

 

I still don't see how McCoy is more ready to be a HC than Philbin based on their respective job requirements.

 

How is Philbin more ready? Because he's older? At least McCoy has called plays before.

 

Who says McCoy is more ready, or that that should be the determinant?

 

Living in Charlotte nc the last 4 years I know that John fox is one of the most conservative head coaches I have ever seen. All offensive plays usually get the "ok" from the HC before going through the channels. No one knows how McCoy will be as a head coach. You either have IT or you don't. Cam Cameron was/is a great offensive coordinator and was a pitiful leader of men. McCoy might call conservative plays (they have limited weapons offensively in Denver) but he might be a great head coach. It's wait and see at this point.

 

Said it before, will say it again. At this point keep Bowles. He is no worse than the other 2 and have the familiarity with the players and the HC experience, even if it is a few games.

 

I'd lean more towards was.

For how good his offense was this year, he made things way too complicated and just didn't give the ball to his best player, RICE, enough.

A lot of the time it seemed like Cam and Joe Cool just wanted to bomb it down the field for ****s and giggles.

 

i gotta tell ya, this is just a bad idea. I don't care about familiarity. In fact, I don't want any part of it. I want the players to think they're playing for their jobs on every play. hell, that's a major reason not to go with bowles.

All i really want is someone with some fire. Someone who wants this job and wants to put the dolphins on the map. I hate Rex Ryan, passionately, but the jets are looked at as a team that should make noise every season because of his exploits. Do I want what Rex does? No. But i do believe that Rex THINKS his team can win a super bowl every season. Whether or not they can is irrelevant, the man coaches with the belief that they will. I don't think Sparano ever believed his unit could win a super bowl. Makes ya wonder, why was he even bothering?

 

Exactly what I was afraid of with Philbin.
I can't think of a worse reason to favor Philbin considering the roster he oversees and the information that is out there that brings into question exactly how much influence he actually has on play calling and planning. Ross needs to stay out of this and listen to his football people.

Honestly all the coaching prospects I'd be excited about are out of the mix now.
I'd rather just go with Bowles at this point.

 

So I guess Carl Peterson will make the tie breaker.

I wonder if this makes Ross question keeping Ireland.

My money is still on McCoy for HC and Bowles for DC.

 

When the Dolphins hired Cam Cameron they hired an OC from a 14-2 team that finished 1st in total offense. When the Packers hired McCarthy they hired an OC from a 4-12 team that was 32nd in offense. Which one would you rather have as our head coach today if given a choice?

 

He was with McDaniels for two seasons, short of the final 4 games of 2010 after McDaniels was fired.
He also preceded Fox in Carolina by 2 seasons, spent under George Seifert.

 

What does calling plays have to do with being a HC?

Philbin creates the offensive philosophy, coordinates the coaches (including the HC who calls the plays Philbin implements) and delegates. That's more HC like then calling pass or run on 2nd & 6.

 

Well, there is no way of knowing based on what they did as a coordinator if anyone is ready to be a head coach. Success as a coordinator gets you on the green, but what you show in the interview is what gets you the chance in most cases. IMO, when Miami hired Cam Cameron, they hired him based off his offense, not his interview. Everything I've read says that Cam interviewed poorly, but they brought him back anyway because they felt they needed an offensive minded coach at that time. Cam was considered the top offensive coordinator in the NFL that particular year.

One point I would like to bring out about Joe Philbin. His job is easy. He has Aaron Rodgers at qaurterback. It is not hard to put together a game plan when you have an elite quarterback.

To me, it shows me more when a coach is able to put together a successful game plan when he has to plan around the limitations of his quarterback, or his roster in general. To me, that's what Mike McCoy did, and IMO, Todd Bowles showed some signs of being able to identify a player's weakness and game plan around his strengths such as moving Reshad Jones from a deep safety position to more of a drop linebacker position over the final three games of the season.

 

Great points, I really am pulling for a McCoy hire, I don't know why, but I got a feeling about this guy.

But maybe it's just the Tijuana Flats I just ate kicking in.

 

I also want to coach the team. Why not give me the job?

 

He's a man with experience that has multiple positions offering him interviews and he said "nay! I WANT to coach the Dolphins"....we arent the 2nd or 3rd choice for this guy. He wants it bad. And I want to give it to him.

Both sexually and in terms of the head coach position...............

 

That is hot.

 

Did he say that?

Ability is less than desire in your coaching search then?

 

No, but if he has both? Hell yes.

 

I would hire Section if only for the press conferences that will have all the veiled threats and subtleties of a mob boss

 

Two things:

Did he say he turned down other jobs for the Dolphins? If you care about ability, then what about McCoy that you've seen shows ability to be a HC?

I know KB pointed out he changed an offense to fit his QB. But, Sparano allowed his offense to be changed to match his personnel and lets be honest, Tebow didn't exactly flourish in that offense. Sure the team won, but that was in spite of Tebow then because of him.

 

The way I hate Sports media, I would live in Goodell's office for my entire tenure.

Although, I would strangely be very receptive and cooperative with Rachel Nichols, Hannah Storm and Suzy Kolber.

I see that dweeb John Clayton hanging around the facility though and forget it. I might get arrested.

 

He turned down an interview with a team that did better than us last year so he can interview with us....and it not effect his interview with the Dolphins, that says a lot to me.

2. He didnt just magically come up with a new offense to fit Tebow throughout the course of an offseason. This guy had a cluster-**** at the QB position, and in the middle of an NFL regular season grind, continued to innovate and tweek things to fit his ****ty quarterback, and it worked. They won games, they destroyed teams running the football when EVERYONE knew that was the gameplan coming in. He orchrestrated some great play calling in a playoff game to beat the number 1 defense in the league with Tim Tebow at quarterback.....I watched that entire game and Troy Polamalu was invisible, I don't remember him making a huge impact....so he did a good job taking their stud out of the game either with route trees, crossing patterns or straight up not throwing plays towards him. Regardless, it worked. All the while coming off a locked out offseason (i know, everyone did) and starting the season with a traditional drop back QB, and randomly being thrown a huge wrinkle mid-way through a season......and instead of crumbling, keeping it as is, or failing....he helped lead the team into the playoffs, winning more games in said playoffs than the defending champion Packers (I know, nit picking they had a bye week, but its true)

 

Not to argue, but I've only seen that he turned down the Raiders. Not that he turned down the Raiders because of us.

Everything you find HC worthy of McCoy's season can be said of Sparano's first season.

 

I think Mando cited a source saying that he turned down the Raiders because he thought himself the front runner in Miami and didn't want to lose that status by flirting with Oakland.

 

This.

And bull**** on Sparanos first year crap, the waildcat was composed of henning and lee coming together to wing it. Yes Sparano let it happen, but he was playing with house money at that time anyways (coming off of 1-15, a parcells guy, new attitude etc).....then he happened to have the easiest schedule imaginable with a healthy Chad Pennington playing like his beautifully combed pubes were on fire. The perfect storm.

 

I would argue that Tebow did flourish in that style. Look. Tim Tebow is as inaccurate a quarterback as you will find. You aren't going to scheme to make him more accurate as a passer. However, Tim was 4th among all quarterbacks in yards per completion, and he was 7th in the NFL in yards per rush attempt. He averaged 13.7 yards per completion and 5.4 yards per rush on the year.

 

The wildcat was also a package that they may have ran only 10% of the time that year. McCoy changed 100% of the offense.

 

I'm not sure the stats you mentioned are equal to flourishing. They're good stats. That's not flourishing. Especially the running stats. Tebow was always good with that.

That's irrelevant to the premise.

Its been said McCoy would make a good HC because he is willing to adapt as evidenced by his playcalling with Tebow. In fact, I've seen nothing else to say McCoy would be a good HC. Sparano adapted an offense to his personnel. And did so successfully too. A 10% or 100% adaptation is irrelevant, its the willingness to adapt that makes it important and the success with which that was achieved.