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Don't make any assumptions yet

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Miamian, Jan 21, 2012.

  1. Miamian

    Miamian Senior Member

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    Joe Philbin does sound like an excellent coach, but it seems like people are already hailing him as the next Shula. Before getting too excited, a lot of this talk reminds me of Ron Rothstein. Remember him? He was the Heat's initial coach and he also came in with excellent credentials, "the architect of the Pistons' defense during their championship seasons. In the end, he wasn't the right choice for coach. The Heat never had a winning record under him.

    Granted, that he was the Heat's first coach, but there was some talent on those teams as well: Rony Seikaly, Sherman Douglas, Glenn Rice.

    I truly hope that Philbin surpasses Shula's success, but we have to wait and not have our expectations too high.
     
  2. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Hi, I'm Miaimian. Call me if you ever want a dump taken in your Easter Basket or a dick put into your birthday cake. I rain on parades, that's what I do.
     
  3. thisperishedmin

    thisperishedmin Well-Known Member

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    Nothing wrong with a little optimism. Our fan base can certainly use it.
     
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  4. Ronnie Bass

    Ronnie Bass Luxury Box Luxury Box

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    Haven't seen anybody reference him as the next "Don Shula".
     
  5. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    I'm going to have to disagree, not on the validity of your point but the thread itself. It's not everyday the fanbase seems to be overly happy or excited about a major decision our team makes. So Embrace it. If they wanna say hes the next Shula, so be it, Who cares? its going to be a VERYYYYYYY Long off season. We could use the optimism and i'm 100% for it. **** Just thinking about attempting a WCO and more emphasis on a passing game makes me giddy with excitement.

    It is a 50/50. it could be another camcam or it could be the best coach we ever had who leads us to a dynasty of greatness. I don't know about the latter, but if i had to bet money i'd say if we keep going forward with decisions like this, next season will be a good one, i've been wanting Philbin here for a while.

    All we have to go by is what we know. and so far what we know is that this a good thing, so let it ride out. no need to rain on the parade when this guys opening press conference in a few hours for crying out loud.

    Philbin for president. Yeehaw.
     
  6. Miamian

    Miamian Senior Member

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    Didn't say that we shouldn't be optimistic. Cautious optimism is really what's called for, IMO.
     
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  7. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Seems more pessimistic to me TBH. But that's just my opinion. Why even make a thread like this, really? If that's how you feel, that is fine, but god forbid people on this specific forum are even smiling nowadays, I guess.

    Now that I think about it, i'm probably not going to watch the press conference now, because there is a chance he won't be a good coach. I mean geez do you remember Ron Rothstein? WHO DOESNT? Pffffft
     
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  8. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Same here. It seems like the majority of the members here like the hire, but I haven't seen anyone crown him yet.
     
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  9. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Well-Known Member

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    Crap...I missed the memo when you were in put charge of deciding what fan expectations are to be. :lol:
     
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  10. EightyTwenty

    EightyTwenty Don't laugh at the mule

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    :lol:
     
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  11. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    What in the living f*** does the first coach of the Heat have to do with this? Jesus Christ, and I thought I was a pessimist.
    Either he succeeds or he doesn't. How we feel about him won't affect that one bit.
     
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  12. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    No kidding, trying to rain on our parade with a NBA reference? .....LAME
     
  13. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    how's that going to happen? He would have to coach into his hundreds.
     
  14. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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  15. Miamian

    Miamian Senior Member

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    People! Unwad your panties. All I was saying was that people are all a sudden gaga over this guy and he hasn't even held a practice with the Phins yet. I was referring to Rothstein because he came in with similar expectations and there are qualities that good coaches share across sports.

    Like I said before for the only semi-literate, I hope that his success surpasses Shula's, but let's not get out expectations too high. If anything, that's a lot of pressure on him even before he starts.
     
  16. Miamian

    Miamian Senior Member

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    He's only 49 years old. Shula was 40 when he took over the Dolphins, but that's when they still played 14-game seasons. I don't expect it to happen, but it would be nice if it did.
     
  17. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    So should I cancel my Joe Philbin Dolphin themed S & M set?
     
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  18. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    We all know how to read. And most of us think your post was off-base on multiple levels. Nobody's calling him the next Shula. No one's claimed that he's even the next Harbaugh. And even if they WERE doing such things, let those people actually have a little fun. God forbid we have high expectations!

    Nobody's panties are wadded. Your post just kinda sucks for all the reasons we all have stated. Its okay. I post dumb crap all the time!
     
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  19. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Well, not to rain on your thread, but it was McCoy that folks were calling the 'young Don Shula', not Philbin...
     
  20. Miamian

    Miamian Senior Member

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    I didn't mean that they said that he was Shula, exactly. It's just the way that posts are read, I got that impression. Having high expectations often means that the reality is much harder to deal with.

    Come to think of it, I remember that talk was also similar about Waansdedt and look how that panned out. It's probably that experience that causes me to be cautious now.

    Beyond that, what if he doesn't all of a sudden start winning? What if the Dolphins are mediocre again next year? Just as many people will start calling for his head.
     
  21. Miamian

    Miamian Senior Member

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    I'm really talking more about what I'm reading around here.
     
  22. Fin D

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    On a scale of Walsh to Shula, I'd say Philbin is closer to the Walsh end of the line than Shula's.
     
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  23. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I think people can read whatever they want into things. I certainly haven't read or sensed any unbridled optimism or assumptions. In general, I've seen posts saying they like what they hear about Philbin and nothing more.
     
  24. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    To be fair, I have had unbridled optimism about Philbin, but I've been the only one.
     
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  25. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    Just going to go ahead and point out here that the majority of "assumptions" I have seen so far referencing Philbin are negative. And then you start this thread further emphasizing that we don't need to be positive about things. What the hell is wrong with this forum? Can we not be happy optimistic fans for one ****ing day before we **** all over the new coach? Jesus tap dancing Christ, there's just no winning with some folks around here.
     
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  26. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I had listed him as my top choice back when the search began. In the middle I got swayed to Zimmer and Taub, then back to Philbin when those two were eliminated so I can't say I'm disappointed at all with the outcome. I just haven't seen anybody predicting SB wins or even playoffs outside of a visiting GB fan. All the posts I see are people saying they like him and then discussions about the next thing that needs to be done either in terms of coordinators or the draft or FA. How does that qualify as people being in need of of reining in their assumptions?
     
  27. firedan

    firedan Well-Known Member

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    TBH I was hopeing more from Saban and Johnson when they came in and I have high expectations whomever the coach is.I think people are cautiously optimistic after what has gone on over the past ten years.
     
  28. Jaj

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    Nobody needs an "irrational exuberance" speech. Miami needs some optimism in the fan base and we're finally pleased with how things are going. Playing devil's advocate is incredibly overrated and it's an aggravating thing in society every day. Nobody likes the dude who constantly says now let me play a devil's advocate because we don't need it. We're not morons, we've seen the Dolphins fail many times but this is a new try with a new coach. Nothing from the past matters except what the players carry with them. We're not decision-makers that have to do so, we're not coaches, we're fans getting excited about our team.
     
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  29. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    Why would you put low expectations on a high profile job? Expectations should be high and assumptions should be set aside.
     
  30. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    problem is, its a high profile job with an extremely low success rate. I'm hoping the best for Regis, but its hard to be optimistic.
     
  31. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    So regardless of the pick you would feel the same.
     
  32. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    We may be overly optimistic, but who the **** cares? Us Dolphin fans haven't had a lot to get excited about over the last 3 seasons. More fun to think about the good things that could come of this hire rather the bad. If Philbin doesn't work out there will be plenty of time for us to cry. Today is a day to be optimistic.
     
  33. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't say that.
     
  34. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    There will never be another Don Shula, just like there will never be another Dan Marino. It would be nice to have another coach who is able to be anything close to a Don Shula but I would be happy if he is able to make his own name and bring respect and a winning tradition back to Miami.
     
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  35. GreysonWinfield

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    Short of a coach that had won with a previous team thats how I take it. Is this wrong?
     
  36. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    or a young coach with tons of potential.
     
  37. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Is this thread serious?
     
  38. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    I can never tell anymore lol
     
  39. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Don't fu&^ing tell me how to temper my enthusiasm.
     
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  40. Conuficus

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    O.K. thats a new one right there. I've heard Jesus has many middle names but 'tap dancing' is one I haven't heard before - so kudos to you there.

    :lol:
     
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