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''Miami Dolphins want to make Sun Life Stadium feel more like the old Orange Bowl''

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by djphinfan, Feb 4, 2012.

  1. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    That's exactly what I think. I really don't understand how this would work.....but what the hell do I know.
     
  2. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I wish they'd get rid of that godawful Romero Brito **** on the ramps.
     
  3. ToddsPhins

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    6 words:
    What's.
    holding.
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    magnet.
    stoopid.
     
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  4. ToddsPhins

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    How about lowering the field a bit and adding in the seats in front of the existing ones? Or is that too obvious? lol.
    Isn't that easier than building a massive crane capable of moving a million pound magnet and a stadium? :tongue2:


    Although, if you go the magnet route, you could still move it up until the 2nd quarter w/o the weight really being affected.



    Edit: Sorry, saw PhinGeneral already answered this.
     
  5. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    Phins, how awesome would it be if they built a screamer from the upper deck straight down to field level?!.... with a splash zone on both sides..... promotes lots of women in bikinis...... and bikini wedgies.... and bikini tops falling off. :yes: ...... and a topless sundeck on the roof...... with a glass bottom pool. Gotta think outside the box.
     
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  6. Hobiesailor

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    I don't think its that hard to do. It requires taking out all the old seats, leaving the concrete base. All that would have to be done would be to re-slope the seats. it would require a shallowing of the angle. Steepening would be harder than shallowing.
     
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  7. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    As long as it's not Romero Brito in a bikini, I'm game.
     
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  8. djphinfan

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    Where did you get 10,000 OZ, I only see 3500 hundred, but if you cut out 4 corners of the upper endzone by installing the big flat screens your evening it out...Adding where it needs to be and taking out where it doesn't..

    I understand that you believe its all about better players, but its obvious now, that the weaknesses are apparent and important to fix by other people, besides myself, and are a much bigger deal than your thoughts suggest.

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  9. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    I got 10,000 out of my head because that number would be the ideal addition to the lower bowl and by that I also mean moving everything forward, including the skyboxes and upper deck. Add to the lower section, take away 6500 from the top...


    3500 seats is what is being added to the lower bowl. Dee said that before the start of the year. The sidelines first row is high enough up that adding 3500 seats not that difficult.

    I also guarantee 10000 percent that there is absolutely no advantage. Dee said intimidating, not advantage. My thoughts are fact. When Miami has the ball will it be an advantage to have screaming maniac Dolphins fans going nuts? Absolutely not because thats when it is supposed to be quiet. Will it be an advantage when the defense is on the field? No but it is in their favor that maybe a team or one player on offense might be dumb enough to miss the hand signals and make them call a timeout.


    It makes it better for the fans. Not when a big play is made because even as it is now, when a big play is made the place goes nuts and its plenty loud.


    BTW, no team in the NFL has a fanbase that screams at the top of their lungs when their defense is on the field for an entire game. Especially when the opponents score or take a lead of 14 or more points. Crowds, even the best of them, are silenced all the time.

    However, when the Dolphins have been good or in a playoff game, they're top 15 in the NFL in making noise. The two most recent would be the Colts, and one Ravens playoff game. The first Ravens game was deafening in the first half but the offense was putting their own fans to sleep. The second one was the monsoon game. Even then the crowd was screaming their butts off but once again, the Dolphins offense put them to sleep.....advantage none without better players.

    The Colts game was a thing of beauty! A fairly exciting game that had the crowd on their toes hooting and hollering. Even with 2 or 3 int's by Feidler. A great day to experience playoff football.
     
  10. Ozzy

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    The concrete base of the steps would have to be given the same angle if they do it this way. Which is possible. The sideline seats front rows are high enough off the ground that adding 3500 seats (1750 each side) is not that hard to do. How they would do it to be as close as they suggest is not easy but surely doable...
     
  11. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Your thoughts are not facts, and besides myself, a lot of folks are now disagreeing with you, including our front office who are starting to sound exactly like my own thoughts on this subject..

    ''It's also a challenge when you've got the stands so far away from the field, and we want to rectify that."

    I guess you are going to debate this sentence and why he used certain words and how they want to rectify that...If it was just about money and getting superbowls they wouldn't give a sh^% about moving the stands and seats better, and the talk about better atmospehere, energy, and excitement would not be in his statements... it would just be about luxury boxes and a canopy.
     
  12. Ozzy

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    It is fact! No one is disagreeing with me but yourself and one or two more. You're taking words they say and turning them into something there not. Creating a better game day experience will bring more fans wanting to come to games but it wont make one bit of difference if the team is not winning games. Not one!
     
  13. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    I think you're correct. They should easily be able to retro fit new seats in the lower bowl on top of what is there without much trouble.
     
  14. Ozzy

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    If they change the angle in any way, they have to also change the angle of the concrete steps in each isle.
     
  15. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    Do the math. Start at the top of the lower bowl seating and work your way 75' closer to the field. It's a no brainer.
     
  16. Ozzy

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    Not when the steps are already there in concrete. That math does not add up. Each row of seats are a step up from the other at a certain angle. The 1st row is 80 feet from the sidelines and they want to go to around 20. In order for it to work the angles have to be changed. By either retro fitting something in sections that include steps or the have an even lesser angle than what is already in place. And by that I mean starting from what is now the 1st row to 20 feet from the sidelines. That would be barely above level. Which means whoever sits behind the new row one will be damn near looking at the person in fronts head.

    It can be done but its not just plug n play.....
     
  17. MikeHoncho

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    Just win. I would pay to see the Dolphins play in the Sedano's parking lot in Hialeah if they would just win consistently. Just win.
     
  18. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'am not twisting sh^%.. Your unreal OZ... no disrespect but My theory has been validated much more than your supposed factual thoughts..
     
  19. RickyNeverInhaled

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    We need to bring back the horrible hankee. The Steelers stole that from us and called it the terrible towel. Plus all the fans in the stadium should all wear the same color, like the red sea in Kansas city. We should look like the ocean since we're the Dolphins
     
  20. Ozzy

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    You've been twisting it for the last 6 months. Nothing I've said is unreal. Not one thing. You've been dragging this **** thru the mud for too long. Every damn week you mention it.......


    For your information, I've been saying move the seats closer for a lot longer than you have on these boards. But because I want the fans into the game more. It has nothing to do with making the players play better like you insist.
     
  21. jw3102

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    I have stated numerous times that I have no problem with the Dolphins and the NFL doing whatever they want to do to upgrade the stadium. While I have no problem with the stadium and the way it is designed right now, obviously there are some individuals who disagree with me.

    While the majority of fans who attend games may want to see changes to the stadium. I most certainly am in the majority of citizens in South Florida who are against taxpayers having to pay for these changes. I have no doubt that if the voters are allowed to vote on approval of tax money being spend on these upgrades, the vote would be a landslide against spending taxpayer money on this project.

    If as you state, Ross and the NFL can split the cost and it doesn't cost taxpayers any money, great. If not and the NFL and the Dolphins expect the taxpayers to pay for these upgrades, I don't see the stadium changing at all in the coming years.
     
  22. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'am not draggin sh^% out, I've been on this site from the get, just like you.. I'am posting news articles that are talking about the subject and the actual changes to the current structure of our franchise, just cause it's not your favorite subject and not important to you, is not my problem, don't read it...I'am sure the fans want to know news like this, and care about the topic..
     
  23. Ozzy

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    If you do not like my replies thats tough ****! You put it on the board for everyone to read and reply to right? Well, I'm a part of everyone and I said on THESE BOARDS, not just this one. I go so far back, dirt looks at me and says wow!
     
  24. Aquafin

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    well I think Godell is the worst commish and when he sends the teams to London its actually sending money out of country . this stadium needs upgrading but dont expect Goodell to spend any money to help us.

    i think a retractable roof and seating the fans closer to the field would help.

    I will say this I want more then those improvements is to up grade our helmets and use a alternate color besides white and get better players and more important is to simply get a QB .
     
  25. unifiedtheory

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    I liked the concept that was posted here a few weeks ago with the corners of the upper deck turned into video boards.

    Do that, dig the field out (putting the field lower) and add the rows of new seats in front of the current ones. Essentially sinking the field. You could replace the seats lost by essentially getting rid of the corners of the upper deck by adding the seats in front of the lower deck. While we are at it, add that over hang thing to the top of the stadium, keeping noise in the building and offering shade to some of the patrons.

    The stadium was poorly thought out. It's almost like one of those dinosaur "multi-use" facilities that all got built in the early 70's.
     
  26. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    That's exactly what Joe Robbie intended when he built it. It was built as a dual-sport stadium.
     
  27. Ozzy

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    unless they built it 20 feet higher than the grade of natural ground, they can only go so deep. The water table under the earth in South Florida is sometimes no more than 6 feet due to where we sit at sea level. Then they need room for drainage lines, pumps and the rest of Jimmy Hoffa's men....
     
  28. djphinfan

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    your the one that seems to have the problem..

    Very encouraging article I must say.
     
  29. Ozzy

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    No, you get bent out of shape everytime i disagree with how you interpret whats said...

    I do believe I am entitled to my own opinion
     
  30. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    yes you are, and I only get bent out of shape when you say in your response that I shouldn't keep talking about it.
     
  31. Da 'Fins

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    While one respects the defense of SoFlo as a great host "region"; comparison to the old OB and SB's back then is simply poor logic here. No stadium was very good back then. This is a different era. Times change. I doubt when you buy a computer you would make this argument: "the computers they made back in the early 80's were good enough then, so, shouldn't we all be satisfied now with ones that are made in the mid 90's?"

    This is an era where millions are spent by corporations on the SB and the NFL wants its sponsorship to have a great venue. Period. Cold weather or not, the venue of Meadowlands stadium and NYC have a great appeal.

    SoFlo has some great external appeals - but like it or not, Robbie made a horrible choice for the design of his stadium. Horrible. And the stadium is terrible.

    It will be interesting to see what they actually do. What needs to be done is to move an entire side (basically overlay one side, moving all the stands tighter in). Adding new seating lower down by the field will not suffice. Part of the problem is that the stands themselves - the upper level - are so far apart, those fans are not close to the action nor does the stadium carry much noise. And, there are far too many seats in the end zones. It is an awful venue.
     
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  32. Da 'Fins

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    It's amazing what engineers can do these days. They would have to retro fit at least one side, over top the current construction. I think that can be done.
     
  33. Ozzy

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    Oh, I'm sure it can! The ideal solution would be to dig out the field and make it lower but I doubt they have to room to do it before hitting water
     
  34. Ozzy

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    Never once have I told you to shut up on the subject. However, you do seem to think its the biggest problem the Miami Dolphins have and I think the team needs to get better long before any stadium does
     
  35. Ozzy

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    The stadium can hold noise but the biggest problem with it is the sidelines. Thats where the club seats are. Most of the club seating houses many of the elderly. I had club seats for 10 straight seasons, and the second I stood up to scream someone would run to an usher and have them tell me to sit down. I got kicked out 5 times because I told them to **** off.

    So I moved to the endzones and thats where all the action is. Most of the noise comes from there..
     
  36. Fin D

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    I agree with Ozzy, we should euthanize all old people.:shifty:
     
  37. Ozzy

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    The world would end not long after...
     
  38. Kud_II

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    What exactly is the attraction to hosting superbowls from a home teams fan perspective? Besides the obvious, your team could "potentially" play at home during the super bowl if the stars aligned just right. But other than that I could care less about a bunch of other teams fans flooding the area. We already get that enough.
     
  39. CitizenSnips

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    Well for local fans it means almost nothing. But it's a big deal for the city of Miami and for Ross. I'd imagine the local economy skyrockets during the two weeks of super bowl craziness. And more money in ross' pockets means more money spent on the dolphins in general I suppose.
     
  40. Ozzy

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    Thats right! Thats why I dont care if they ever host another one. If the surrounding cities were smart they would work something out with Ross and the NFL. The only way it will ever fly, and I still highly doubt it, would be to install a hotel tax to raise some of the money so the tourists are hit and not the locals because they've already been screwed with deals from the Marlins and the old Miami Arena.
     

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