They just posted that some G ran a 4.96. SO WHAT???? Who cares how fast an O lineman is?? How many times is he going to be sprinting down the field (in his undies???) Worthless IMO.
IMO the real value of the Combine is the interviews and the medicals. On the field, I generally just look to see how big guys move and for small school guys, I like their measurables to be comparable to the big school guys. I also like to look for an outlier in a few measurements that will be a red flag or force me to go back and look at tape.
Doesn't the combine lose some worth in the fact that all these guys have time to just specialize in the events to give the illusion being a beast by those measurables? TIA Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
worthless for you.. Position specific movement is not worthless..You can gauge how much space a player can cover in your scheme..
Is an OL is posting a sub 5.0 forty, then I'd imagine that the OL would have a quick step, giving him an advantage when it comes to run blocking.
exactly, even a schlub like me can watch the combine and see two similar size guys in drills, one has very fluid movement, lateral quickness and acceleration, other guys can struggle with any of those. the combine is more than just a 40 yard dash.
At the combine right now watching TE's......Harkey is a beast...Paulson looks good, don't see a ton of speed.
yeah, real worthless seeing how a player can move in space and putting a measure on how fast they can run....lol I'll agree some things are pretty stupid like a standing broad jump but stuff like bench press, 40 time etc CAN be very usefull to see. its pos drills that matter most.
I would imagine the 10 yard split time would be more important for a lineman than the forty time itself. A 300+ lb. dude running 40 yards in under 5.0 seconds is still pretty impressive though.
I like Orson Charles, but would have liked to seen him run the 40. His 35 reps on the bench is outstanding. Looked good on the gauntlet the 2nd time through. Of the lower ranked TEs, I'm intrigued by Michael Egnew. Good combo of size and speed. Drake Dunsmore is interesting. I like the way he moves, and his hands are good too. Sort of a combo FB/TE. He'd be a nice 6th or 7th rounder. Maybe a Charles Clay clone. NFL pedigree. Harkey was weak in the bench, didn't run a good 40, but he has good hands, and the rep of a top inline blocker.
Charles had looked ok...hands suspect today, Dunsmore good hands, good speed and hips. Another guy looking good to me is Rodriguez from temple. Him and Paulson stand out the most to me right now.
Charles dropped his only catchable passes on the out and up, from what I could see, but his gauntlet drill showed solid hands. If he'd have ran the 40 and turned in a 4.5 or better, he could have been a surprise top 15 pick IMO. With the NFL being a copycat league, I'm expecting teams to try extra hard to get a good pair of starting quality TEs with at least one of them being a seam threat.
Lol, I love talking about players were interested in that participated in the combine in a thread that was started by a poster who thinks its worthless..
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Well Bill Polian for one. On NFL Radio he said today that if a lineman ran over a 5.3 that was a serious red flag. Also slow guards don't pull well. That's important to some teams.
I'd be more concerned with shuttle, cone and ten yd times when it comes to applying drills to ability to pull.
It's like being trapped in a gay bar, being forced into a dance-off for your freedom...Not that there's anything wrong with dancing.
When a lineman runs a 40 in under 5 seconds it means nothing. But it tells me to check him out to the fullest. Like where he was at 10 yards and what he does in his shuttles. The combine is much more important that you realize.
I was mostly referring to an O lineman running a 40 yd dash. Seems worthless to me. I would rather see what his hand, and footwork looked like. Strength is important. Running a 40 in his undies is not going to tell you if he can play the line.
It gives the NFL Network something to do besides having to listen to Deion Sanders telling everyone how great he was back in the day, and how fast he was in the Forty. I think the NFL should seriously consider going to an 18 game schedule spread out over 36 weeks. Every team gets two weeks between games, and you would have 8 games every weekend (16 teams playing, and 16 teams getting a week off) and then we could have football 9 months out of the year. You would probably have to play two weekends in a row toward the end of the season so that everyone ended the season at the same time, before the start of the playoffs. I might send the idea to the Commish for his consideration.
Why is there no dance competition at the combine? or sports science? Football is obtuse when it comes to physics and new technology...That and old and stubborn...hardened really. I could rig the field and ball with some of those microscopic transmitters and it would at least take away the guesswork of forward momentum.
