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Omar: Dolphins, Browns negotiating with Matt Flynn

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Muck, Mar 13, 2012.

  1. Duss

    Duss Season Ticket Holder

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    I have no issues with them having a pla, but it sure as hell better not blow up in our faces and we're stuck without Manning and Flynn, without Marshall and without any WR.
     
  2. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    The ONLY way I'm okay with trading Marshall is if we sign Flynn and somehow know Blackmon will be available at our pick, which he won't be.
     
  3. Jt0323

    Jt0323 Fins Up! Luxury Box

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    I agree. Miami has been very quite and on lock down. I expect something big to happen, but again it all could be me getting my hopes up again only to get disappointed. I am in wait and see mode. There is no way we go into next season with Matt Moore as our #1 QB and Hartline as our #1 WR. No way.
     
  4. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    well... Jeff Ireland is said to "LOVE" Matt Barkley. He was said to be one of a couple GMs that viewed him as just as good as Andrew Luck. I actually agree with him too.
     
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  5. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Why not? We are the only team that trades for players and flips them for less than they paid. Seriously, say that in your head real quick and tell me it sounds right or gives you hope.

    Brandon Marshall was a key part of future success for this offense regardless of who is at QB. There is no big move available to be made that makes trading Marshall a good idea.
     
  6. Firesole

    Firesole Season Ticket Holder

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    There is no way that Philbin agreed to start his coaching career by tanking his first season just to hope to out suck another team in hopes of drafting an unproven qb
     
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  7. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Obviously he wasn't. You're just making stuff up now.
     
  8. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Okay let me reword it then.

    If this offense was going to find success this season, Brandon Marshall was going to be a huge part of it.

    Better?
     
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  9. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Nope.

    If what you're saying is true, they wouldn't have traded him. Your stance is basically conjecture based on how you feel. I'm pretty sure if the people making the offensive gameplan planned on Marshall being the key cog, they wouldn't have traded him.
     
  10. Rouk

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    If this is true I need to change my opinion of Barkley I really liked him but if Ireland thinks hes good my eyes must be playing tricks on me
     
  11. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    If they would rather Devon Bess or Brian Hartline be the key cog, they should be fired and never work in the NFL again.


    This front office has shown NOTHING except an inability to evaluate talent or field a consistent team. Why should I have any belief that this is a good move? It's just another reason to point and laugh at us.

    I am NOT a gloom and doomer, never have been before today. This is the last straw, this team is an absolute joke. Still love them though.
     
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  12. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    That makes no sense. There's been no indication that the FO doesn't plan to bring in anyone else.
     
  13. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    There is no-one else to bring in.
     
  14. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    we pick in a decent spot to draft good wrs in the draft
     
  15. JMORGAN6977

    JMORGAN6977 New Member

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    Here we go "Play Like Shat For Matt"
     
  16. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    So you trade away a top WR in hopes of drafting a guy who may become a top WR. That is ridiculous.
     
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  17. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    Lol I'm 100% against the Marshall trade but If philbin feels he didn't fit whatever offensive system he wants to run I'm saying we can at least get elite talent in the draft
     
  18. bran

    bran Senior Member

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  19. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Ireland sucks....

    There are no two ways about it, he sucked long before this ridiculous trade. He is a joke.
     
  20. fins4o8

    fins4o8 Mac FTW!

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    We would only end up messing up again like last year. We would probably go 0-10 & win our final 6 games to take ourselves out of being #1 again.
     
  21. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Yeah he doesn't know what he's doing. He just traded BM for the fvck of it and to piss off the fans on thephins.com and other forums. Then in his spare time, he browses them and laughs manically as he reads the comments.
     
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  22. MAFishFan

    MAFishFan Team Tannehill

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    to the ledge jumpers: a "#1" reciever isn't always necessary...look, we all know moore isno tombrady, but when NE was winning super bowls, who was brady's #1? ...there wasn't one...they spread the ball around, ran the ball and used a borderline dink and dunk offense to pefection..what happened when he got moss? hmm? nothing..exactly...green bay spreads it around, as do the giants..add a wr in the draft and start putting the ball all over the field...marshall became a distraction and forcing the ball to him did nothing...at least when moore started spreading it around, miami started scoring..
     
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  23. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει


    I...actually wouldn't put it past him. You ever see is day-timer schedule? Dude is worse than satan...seriously.
     
  24. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Since both subjects are being discussed in this thread, this is the one I'll reply in.

    If Marshall was indeed involved in an altercation and hit a woman, trading him was probably a VERY smart move. Goodell is a strict disciplinarian and Marshall would be looking at significant suspension time that would ultimately hurt anyhow. At least by trading him, we get a couple of draft picks to play around with and possibly give us some barganing power in the draft. Blackmon seems like the safe bet to try and get.

    Now back on topic...

    If Flynn is negotiating with the Browns and the Dolphins, it seems pretty much a foregone conclusion he'll sign with Miami, being reunited with his old OC, working the same offense he was trained in up in Green Bay and knowing the chances of him being selected the starter is pretty good.

    I keep reading all of this complaining about "rebuilding". I know Ireland is the Gm...I know Ross is the owner and player selection is their business, but does anyone really truly beliecve Joe Philbin was going to want to come down to Miami and take over with the SAME players that have produced mediocre seasons the past 3 years? Of course there's going to be some trades. Of course there's going to be some releases. Ireland and Ross hired Philbin. Now they're asking Philbin, "ok, what do you need to be successful?"

    Although I'm excited about the hiring of Philbin, with the seasons we've had and the division n which we play, pateince should still be everyone's watchword. We won't be in a position to contend for 3 years in my opinion.
     
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  25. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    As for BM, I believe but maybe wrong, that his next stumble will cost him a year off thus if we got 2 3's for him Ireland hit gold!

    As for the rest of your post I agree save the 3 year time frame, I believe, we will do it much sooner. Jm2c
     
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  26. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I hope you're right buddy...I really do, but with the heartache I've endured over the years, I try not to hold my breath.
     
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  27. Alex44

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    In the NFL today you can go from the #1 overall pick to the playoffs in a season or two if you play your cards right. Im not huge on Flynn but lets just say he is the next Schaub as far as his play goes, I see no reason we couldn't contend right away if we made the right moves around him. It's not all gloom and doom....yet.
     
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  28. RevRick

    RevRick Long Haired Leaping Gnome Club Member

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    And that's the truth... PHHHHHHHTTTTTT!!!!!!
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    I know.... showing my age!!
     
  29. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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  30. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    If this is true no need to overpay for him.

    Wonder if Henne can do good in Seattle?
     
  31. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

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    I am sure we will drive up the price on ourselves.
     
  32. JamesyEsq

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    If that is true then it means the report by Omar is not accurate? or perhaps he only got it half right... confusing
     
  33. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Awesome. and let Seattle take Henne, sounds fine to me.
     
  34. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Thats the problem this franchise has been stuck in this mode for the last 12 years hire, fire, change parts, hire, fire change parts again. I understand that somewhere somehow this needs to change and were hoping for Philbin to be that man, but asking us to once again wait 3-4 years is basically not going to work for most of the fanbase whos tired of hearing it.
     
  35. dWreck

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    I think 3 years is too much to say its going to take imo
     
  36. Fin D

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    Admit it Rev, your first computer was wood burning, wasn't it?
     
  37. CANEPHINS

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    It is Omar.

    He is the king of talking out of both sides so he has skin in the game either way.
     
  38. NorFlaFin

    NorFlaFin Active Member

    Cleveland runs the same offense that GB and Miami plans to run. Flynn would be fine in either city.
     
  39. dgb11112

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    Well it appears we look bad yet again. This just in and yes It's allover PFT and Rotoworld. Cleveland Browns aren't pursuing Flynn. So we will big against ourselves to drive the price up. Way to go FRONT OFFICE....
     
  40. finfaninilinois

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    Adam Scheffter reporting Flynn to visit Seattle tomorrow or Friday - just great - must not have liked the offer
     

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