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Brandon Marshall Traded

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by CaribPhin, Mar 13, 2012.

  1. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    It's not a joke now all we have left is who?? Brandon fields **** there goes our punting core.
     
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  2. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    On a team with a losing record, yards don't mean much.

    Yards are nothing more than a contribution. If those yards contributed to a scores it would be one thing. But they didn't considering our W-L record. Its like tackles. Tackles need context to be important.

    TDs never need context. They are always important, even in garbage time. Marshall had less TDs than 30 other players and was supposed to be our #1 weapon.
     
  3. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Hate to burst your bubble but if Tom Brady wanted to get the ball to Marshall last year he would have done it no problem. It would suck for us if welker was running on the same field as Marshall. OMG that's a scary thought.

    That said I still back up the FO for what they need to do.
     
  4. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Pure speculation, so luckily my bubble is intact.

    Marshall was not a superstar here. His stats prove it. Everything else is speculation and conjecture.
     
  5. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    When did TD's become the measuring stick for a WR? Just curious. Plaxico had 8 last season and if anyone watched him he was pretty useless 95% of the time. Steve Smith only had 7. Guess he sucks too.
     
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  6. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    If they didn't find out about the issue until after the trade was finalized, they look incompetent.
     
  7. SICK

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    sign laurent robinson, trade down get another 2nd, draft weeden late first, draft alshon jeffrey early 2nd, draft tommy streeter later, sign winston, sign richard marshall.


    simple.













    :shifty:
     
  8. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Since when are TDs not the most important thing?
     
  9. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    yards dont mean **** if you catch a 60 yard pass and end the drive with a turnover or FG. Points win you games. Period.
     
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  10. Bulldog

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    I don't play fantasy sports. Sure all three are important. However, 100 catches and 1200 yards with no TD's is not better than 50 catches and 700 yards with 10 TD's.
     
  11. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    So instead of negating the deal they'd rather lie and say they knew about all along?
     
  12. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Yes. Better to look reckless than stupid.
     
  13. ChrisKo

    ChrisKo Season Ticket Holder

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    Desert
    Ya, because Brady had no problem getting Ocho the ball for more than 6 TDs.
     
  14. pennphinfan

    pennphinfan Stelin Canez Arcade Scorz

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    this may have been covered, but is the 3rd rounder we got pick #74 or #80? they have both..

    EDIT: looks like it may be #74 but not confirmed
     
  15. mracer

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    I admit I have defended Irish in the past but this is pure fukin stupidity!! We dump our #1 WR? Why did we only get 2 3rd rounders?! We practically gave him away. Plus Brandon was signed at a reasonable salary so the whole cap argument is BS!! I HATE YOU IRELAND!!!!!
     
  16. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    That's Ocho.
     
  17. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Come on now man..... Marshall was way overpaid for his production.
    Not to mention the guy is an a-hole. They don't want that here.
    It's not about just having a star. It's about having a real star, the right one. Marshall is neither.
     
  18. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    What planet are you from?
     
  19. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    One good season and one excellent season. Sure he was and getting two first day picks proves it. TD production is not even close to the main stat when you look for a Wr. Not even close....
     
  20. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    I defended Brandon most of this season, but good riddance after this latest psychotic episode. My lasting memory of Brandon will be when he ran out of bounds when he had a clear path to the end zone. Do you guys remember that play?
     
  21. DOLFANMIKE

    DOLFANMIKE FOOTBALL COACH 32 YEARS Luxury Box

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    Marshall is a very selfish and immature guy. His other mental problems are just on top of those issues. He dropped way too many balls, especially TD's to deal with given his drama. Glad he is gone and hope we see more players come in that we can build around with higher character and more consistent playmaking.
     
  22. texasPHINSfan

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    I am not going to take any moral high ground on the issue.

    He was a productive receiver, and despite his off-field issues I still think we got fleeced on the trade. So what if Marshall gets suspended for a few games? He's still a pro bowl receiver, and when he returns from whatever suspension, he'll still be productive. Is there 3rd round talent this year that could be as productive as Marshall was?
     
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  23. Fin D

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    Says who?

    Look, yards play a part in winning. TDs play a bigger part. How can you rationally argue against that?

    Marshall did not have an excellent season here. He had a 1200 yd 6 Td season. That is not excellent. That is good. His first season wasn't even good.
     
  24. texasPHINSfan

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    for a Dolphins receiver, that's pretty damn great :lol:
     
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  25. Fin D

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    Furthermore, if you want to latch onto yards as being the most important stat, then how about:

    There were 19 receivers with over a 1000 yards last season. Out of those 19 Marshall was 10. That puts him in the lower half of those receivers.

    Out of those same 19 receivers, only 2 had less TDs than Marshall.

    How does that equal excellent?
     
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  26. jdang307

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    We have very low standards here for receivers, that's why.

    I've been arguing all along since before we even traded for him, that Marshall was good, not elite, not great. He catches a lot of balls but he also drops a lot of balls (this was known before he got here).

    His YPC was average, he wasn't a burner. YPC counts. It's less strain on your offense, it's less of a chance of mistake (INT, fumble snap, etc.). It creates panic on the other side.

    Those were my issues with Brandon.
     
  27. texasPHINSfan

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    Relativity.

    Comparing what receivers on the Dolphins do versus receivers on Green Bay, for instance, isn't going to tell you much because of the difference in QB play. Marshall was limited somewhat by his QB (dropped TDs aside). I'd argue the GB receivers were less so.
     
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  28. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    I'm tellin' y'all...it's that damn #19 jersey. It's cursed! #18 is WAY better! :shifty:
     
  29. Pro-X

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    Why is everyone still talking about BM when he isn't a Phin anymore, he has potential but didnt show it hear, many, and I say many of you complained about those friggin drops. Enough with this guy, lets move on and see what unfolds for us... and I do know there isn't much to talk about.
     
  30. Ozzy

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    Says anyone who looks for a Wr to add to their team. How many of Brandon Marshalls receptions directly led to a Dolphins TD? How many kept drives alive? How many ..........

    I can go on and on with just as important stats. TD's are only a portion of what a Wr does on the field.


    Off the field he is a complete idiot but on it he is a stud.
     
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  31. slickj101

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    And you can take all those numbers and cut them in half if his 8 game suspension arrives.
     
  32. Ozzy

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    How many of them had stud Qb's throwing to him? How many drew constant double and triple teams? Catching a TD does not equate excellent and Marhall surely is. I can't stand Marshall the idiot but Marshall the Wr is a dern good one.
     
  33. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    And I will be laughing if he is. I could care less about a player once he is gone. As a matter of fact, I hope he fails from here on out.
     
  34. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Right, and the odds are good that it happens. That's the justification for making that move. Not eating that huge salary while he plays half a season.
     
  35. Fin D

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    So who had a better year Vincent Jackson with 1106 yds & 9 TDs or BMarsh with 1214 & 6 TDs?

    If TDs are less important than yards, in your book, then you have to pick BMarsh right?

    What about Jordy Nelson with less than 50 yards more than BMarsh but more than double the amount of TDs at 15, are they pretty much the same?
     
  36. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Randy Moss in his prime could have been in Marshalls position last year and not done much better. This offense was inept from the very top (Head Coach) down. Chris Chambers was a good but not great WR, you can't dispute Marshall as a great WR whether you hate his antics or not.

    Also it isn't about one stat being more or less important. It also has to do with circumstance. Vincent Jackson has Phillip Rivers throwing him the ball. That is a luxury Brandon didn't have.
     
  37. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Sorry, but no.
     
  38. Dolphin1184

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    Randy Moss in his prime can turn a turd into gold. Case in point, Culpepper and Frerotte.
     
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  39. fins4o8

    fins4o8 Mac FTW!

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    Moss in his prime didn't drop as many passes/TD's as Marshall did.
     
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  40. Alex44

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    The point wasn't to make an actual comparison as to whos numbers would be better. My point was that without a QB who can consistently get the ball there, and a line that can actually pass block, his numbers were pretty impressive. In other words, the point was that it doesn't matter who you are because sometimes the players around you stunt your production.
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    IE Moss in Oakland.
     

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