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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by SCall13, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    Yeah, I know. In so many ways this has been beat to death, but I needed to vent my frustration. I do not understand, for the life of me, why Miami is never aggressive in free agency. They never seem to have a real plan. They never go all out for THEIR guy. It just boggles my mind. I can somewhat understand trading Marshall, who is, and has been, unhappy with Miami because of the ongoing QB situation, and because of his off the field issues. Nevertheless I was stunned - and I'm not even a fan of Marshall. Straight up, I think he's a *****.

    What's bothersome is, given the fact that Ross has deep pockets, and is willing to spend, why the **** are we so conservative in our approach in free agency? It's been this way for years. You see these other teams swoop in and get their guy and we watch our team standing around, hands in pockets, looking like a group of horses asses.

    Some may say that we are waiting to see what Manning is going to do. I say F*** that. You don't let one guy with a 2-3 year shelf life hand cuff your team and it's immediate and long term future. It's just not worth it. Some may think so, but I wholeheartedly think it's the wrong way to go. Our receiving corp is laughable now. Uncertainty at QB. Uncertainty on the line. Uncertainty in the secondary. Uncertainty with a pass rusher opposite Wake. And even uncertainty at running back. (Can't count on Reggie Bush repeating last year, and DT didn't show me ****.) There are so many needs on this team and there is no way we can fill them all in the draft. And it's pointless to fill them with second and third rate free agents. We've all seen how that turns out.

    I'd like to know the plan our front office has put together. At least it would give me something to laugh at. No wonder Miami is becoming what used to be the Detroit Lions. And we all saw how long they took to matter...
     
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  2. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    How does acquiring BMarsh, Dansby, Pennington, Bush, etc. not being aggressive in Free Agency?

    Call the acquisitions bad if you must, but to act like we are timid when it comes to FA is bizarre to me.
     
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  3. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Karlos Dansby
     
  4. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    two of those were trades not that it matters I think his point would be more to the fact the chargers instantly replaced v. jackson while there is no real #1 wr left now for the dolphins to sign.
     
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  5. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Wait, how can you be mad that Miami isn't aggresively going after their guy when they are aggressively going after thier guy.

    Why #### that with Manning when that is their guy?
     
  6. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Meachem is a #1 wr now?
     
  7. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    In the chargers system hes the perfect #1 aside from Mike Wallace for them
     
  8. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Really?
     
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  9. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Good teams are rarely aggressive in FA. There is a reason for that.
     
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  10. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    So what were we when we signed Smiley at like 12:01am on opening day of FA if we weren't aggressive?
     
  11. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB


    Dansby was, by far, the most aggressive I have seen from our front office in a very long time. Reggie Bush was a trade. But, ok, I'll bite. Most people thought Reggie Bush was a big risk. Turns out he put together a very solid season. Can he duplicate it? Will he be as motivated next season now that he's proven his point?

    Pennington? Come on man. Everyone knew that he was going to be a high risk. And we did okay with him. But he wasn't a "solution." He was the prettiest girl at the prom and we were desperate. Marshall? Mistake. The price wasn't bad if it wasn't for the fact that he carried too much baggage, was a QBs nightmare, and a *****. His personality type can bring a team down.

    Two of the three you named were trades. One is gone, and not surprisingly. The other still, in my opinion has some question marks. But at least RBs question mark isn't as big as Marshall's. Reggie Bush has good character and gives his all. The question for him is can he sustain it.
     
  12. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    Smiley? I hope that's sarcasm. If not, you prove my point. 2nd and 3rd tier free agents.
     
  13. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    We're not a good team.
     
  14. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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  15. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Are you joking?
     
  16. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Smiley was a different FO. His point was that being very aggressive isn't automatically a good thing.

    And he was a 1st tier FA at that time.
     
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  17. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    And if we sign him, he is our ONLY guy. Anyone else we sign, SHOULD we sign Manning (which we won't), is scraping desperately at the bottom of the barrel.

    And that's part of what I said to begin with. I'm not letting a QB with maybe 2 or 3 years dictate the direction of the team. By waiting, we are, AT LEAST potentially, hurting this team short and long term.
     
  18. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    It's not like the best players all signed within the first 24 hours. Be patient.
     
  19. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    So what exactly are you trying to say? Other than, "I am mad and any reason I will ignore."
     
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  20. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Like I said, you have problems with talent we acquired which is fair. None of that, however, says we were timid.
     
  21. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    Yeah, I'm joking. He was injury prone before we signed him.

    It's funny. You seem happy with the way things are going. Are you drooling in your pants over Manning like 90% of the fan base. Get over it and look forward. This team needs a lot more than Manning.
     
  22. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Why would you assume there's more?
     
  23. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    Wasn't Cameron Wake a free agent?
    I am not so sure they don't have a plan this time around. There has got to be some reason why they haven't been very aggressive signing Manning. I don't know if its a plan that we all agree with but they don't really care if we like it or not.
     
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  24. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    you guys watch Meachem will have a beast year as long as he and rivers both stay healthy hes a perfect fit next to Floyd and gates
     
  25. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    But it was aggressive and he was considered one of the best at his position.

    So, you have to be joking because you are not making sense. You are totally changing your point.
     
  26. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Because Brees was a shlub?
     
  27. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    As opposed to Colston and Graham w/Brees throwing to him?
     
  28. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    Ok. For the sake of argument: put aside other acquisitions. We aren't doing **** but waiting on an old QB and it's holding us back if that's what we're waiting for.
     
  29. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    We haven't been aggressive so far this year. I know this year started yesterday according to the NFL but its true we haven't done anything but trade our most talented troublesome player away and resign a couple of our own guys and get rid of a handful of our own guys. Pft has a top 100 free agents and 23 players on that list have already signed with a team. I think manning is holding us out for too long. Hopefully it pays off.
     
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  30. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    He's talking about tier two. Where all the "decent" players are. No game changers. Yeah, there are plenty of complimentary players left.
     
  31. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    That is something I do find frustrating. I do not want to lose both Langford AND Solia then not get Manning.
     
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  32. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    So we aren't being aggressive this time. No idea how that will turn out yet. It may bite us, it may not.

    Hardly the same as us never being aggressive like you seemed to claim in the OP though.
     
  33. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    did you guys even watch saints or chargers games this year? Meachem didn't get nearly enough snaps to put up massive numbers hes a up and coming wr who had a slow start to his career due to injuries this will be his year to shine.
     
  34. DOLFANMIKE

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    I thought we were very active last season getting Dansby and Marshall among others. They were considered to top 2 players on the market and we got both of them.
     
  35. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    I'm hearing you Stitches and Dupree. But what is frustrating is that, while it may appear we've been aggressive - when we are, it's always been (Dansby aside) with players with some sort of question mark. And now, we appear to be sitting on our hands to hold on to cash to throw at someone who hasn't shown us the same commitment. That someone who is recovering from a serious injury, 4 surgeries, and on the brink of Marino's retirement age. I just don't get it.
     
  36. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    I don't understand how manning handcuffed us either to be honest. By most reports we are talking to flynn,two wrs and an o line man already.
     
  37. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    I haven't heard about the 2 wr's Who are they?
     
  38. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Most players in FA are usually there because of a question mark or two, save for typically 3-4 guys a year.

    I wish we'd just move on to Flynn and sign Soliai and Winston too, but I'm not getting worked up about limited movement on day 2 (barely 24 hrs into the new year at that).
     
  39. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    ive seen manningham and laurent robinson.
     
  40. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    Well of course we are. Contingency plans. At least they are smart enough to have that. And the two WRs we're talking to don't exactly excite anyone. The o-linemen are very solid. But, if you really want one, you go grab them. It may be days before we sign anyone. While the aggressive teams are signing these guys RIGHT NOW.
     

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