lol @ the way the media seems to hate on Miami (new example included)

My answer to your question is, NO, I do not think Belichick would have this team in the playoffs. He was merely an average coach with the Browns when he didn't have a franchise QB to rely on. So based on the fact he would have had to rely on Henne and Matt Moore as his QB's here in Miami over the last three years, I don't see him being able to coach this team to the playoffs.

Of course if Belichick was here, that means Ireland would not be here and in that case, I think the Dolphins would have a great deal more talent on their roster than they presently have. I am not sure where you are seeing all this supposed talent. The Dolphins had only two players voted to the Pro Bowl after last season. Jake Long, who because of injuries had his worst season since he came to the Dolphins and who made it more on reputation than his actual play last season. The other Pro Bowl player was Marshall and he is now a member of the Bears.

When I look at the Dolphins I see about 6-7 above average players and a majority of mediocre to below average players on the roster. I don't see a single impact player on the entire roster. Teams with a lot of talent don't go 20-28 over a three year period. Some of the problem with the Dolphins over the last three years had to do with the coaching. The majority of the problems though had to do with the personnel on the roster and that all goes right back to Ireland.

 

He got the Browns to the playoffs with Testaverde. He led the Brady-less Pats to an 11-5 record and if not for a fluke they would have made the playoffs. You think Cassel is that much better than Moore? Do you think their team then was much better overall than our team was last season? I don't. Biggest difference was coaching.

 

Cowherd did a funny bit this morning where he played the part of the Seahawks trying to get into the house party in Denver and being forced to sit outside.

 

Shocked face:

 

I think Belichick is an outstanding HC in the NFL. The question was, do I think that Belichick would have had this Dolphins team in the playoffs most years? I don't, because I don't think that the talent on the Dolphins is very good overall. As far as, do I think that the Patriots are much better team than the Dolphins? Yes I do and the fact the Patriots were 13-3 and the Dolphins were 6-10 during the regular season clearly shows that the Patriots were the far superior team.

I had stated that if the Dolphins were to have gotten Manning, I believed they could have been a playoff team this season. That is because franchise QB's like Manning, Brady, Rogers, and Brees have the ability to make average offensive players on their team play at a higher level than they would with an average QB. The Colts were a playoff team in 2010, but were the worst team in the NFL in 2011 with basically the same players as 2010, but without Manning at the QB position.

Sparano took the Dolphins to the playoffs in 2008 with a weak armed Chad Pennington at QB and the installation of the Wildcat offense. So this proves that any coach can have one good season with an average QB, as Belichick did with the Browns when he had Testeverde as his starting QB. The fact is though, Belichick was eventually fired as the Browns HC and the main reason is that he was never able to find that franchise QB in Cleveland. I certainly think he is a very good NFL HC but I don't think he would be nearly as good over the long run without Brady as his teams QB.

In 2008, the Patriots had a veteran team with a lot of talent. They won most of their games with a stellar defense and having Cassel basically manage the game and not having him do things he really couldn't do well. I give Belichick credit was being able to adjust to having to use a QB with limited NFL experience at the time, but if not for all the talent Belichick had around him, Cassel certainly would not have had the success he had that season. It should be noted that Belichick was 5-11 in his first season as the Patriots HC. The following season he had to start Brady because of a serious injury to Bledsoe, the Patriots starter at the time. Brady came in and eventually led the Patriots to a Super bowl win in his that first season as a starter in the NFL and the rest is history.

To me Belichick would be a good NFL HC whether he had Brady or not, but having Brady has allowed him to be considered one of the greatest coaches in the history of the NFL. It's all about the QB, and Brady, Manning (both of them), Rodgers, and Brees have clearly shown this over the last decade. The Dolphins have average QB's, so they will remain an average team, no matter who the coach of the team is.

 

More bull**** from the media.

Link

You'll find in this article an indictment of the Dolphins FO. This is an indictment is backed with:

- 2 opinion pieces from 2 other columnists (who aren't reporters. Reporters report facts, columnists have opinions)
- A Tweet from Luther Campbell from 2 Live Crew
- Ryan Clark's quote.

The haters are going to use this article as proof of their rhetoric. Yet, its proof the media is ****ing out of their minds.

Basically we have exactly what I said before, a **** storm whipped up by the media & pushed by the media.

 

Aw hell! If Luther said it it must be true 'cause he "Put Her In the Buck" man....THE BUCK!!

 

god bless them.

The media influenced Truman to drop the bomb and end the war.

The media helped End the Vietnam war.

The media forced Nixon to resign.

The media brought to light the atrocities of the Khmer Rouge.

The media helped end the Iraq war by electing Obama.

Once again, they have a duty to serve the public.

 

I would recommend the folks spending so much breath/fingerstrokes defending Ireland today to take a good hard listen to Sirius NFL radio today. Former respected players, GMs, players, radio personalities are just in shock and dismay at what is going on in South Florida. These are guys I listen to often, and they have no agendas. They are low key guys and call it like they see it. I've heard some pro Ireland guys calling up to spout some of the same stuff I've read on this board and they are getting shut down.

Fin D, others, please call them up and tell them they're crazy. I'd love to hear how it shakes out one way or the other.

 

Nevermind the fact that the Dolphins are a privately owned business, not a democratic institution. Just a minor detail.

 

How do you do that? How are you given two pieces of evidence, and you ignore them? How the hell do you do that? At least give an opinion on the evidence presented to you. Because when you don't, you prove the pioint that we're making. That's you'll just flat out ignore honest, right there in front of you facts. Not spin. Not emotion.But facts.

The media is playing games here and you are being willfully oblivious.

 

Oh, and don't ever use the "strawman" dodge on me again, when you can post this kind of crap.

 

No, I'm listening to unbiased former players, GMs, NFL people who have no axe to grind and no agenda talk about what's going on in Miami. People with, who all due respect, most likely know much more about the game and inner workings of GMs and players than you or anyone else on this board.

 

Mr. Loss's trek across the country after Harbaugh was bashed because he went shopping and didn't eat his groceries in the cupboard. As a result, Sparano was left hanging there for 4 days trying to figure out whether to sell his house or not. Then he added an insult by trying to buy him for another year, likely costing the next raise in ticket prices because of it. The media ripped him for letting the whole sordid thing get public while he still had a HC on payroll....not because an act of desperation... Heck, it was a smart move on his part, it just didn't work out and he went about it the wrong way...

 

I was wrong about you. You're just like the rest of them. You'ver proven it by ignoring the evidence we've provided to you. You won't even comment on them. Its pathetic.

 

So you support The Empire of Japan, Richard Nixon, the Vietnam War and the Khmer Rouge?

 

Section 126 Art of Forum Arguing: Lesson #34

When someone calls you out for being a hypocrite for using strawmen in your arguments, double down on strawmen or mention the Heat.

 

I don't quite know what you mean. You think the media coverage of the Dolphins is completely biased and unfair. Maybe to a certain degree. Do you have NFL radio? I wish you were listening to the same stuff I was. You might have a better idea of where I was coming from.

When you say I'm like the rest of them, I don't know maybe I am.

I don't think Ireland should be fired today. That would be a poor decision this close to the draft. I do think he definitely needs to be fired eventually. He has not produced at a high enough level to have a job as NFL GM. No quarterback (as of yet), and the teams he has put together are not producing winning seasons.

That being said, I'll give him the draft before making FINAL judgement.

But to close your eyes to the disaster this free agency has been so far is blind support for a guy who is not getting it done. You think my viewpoint is blind hatred. Your viewpoint to me seems like blind loyalty.

I agree with you on quite a few things, but Jeff Ireland is not one of them. Sorry.

 

The Team's radio color commentator Joe Rose has had it:

http://wqam.com/index.php?page=347

click on Darlington interview 3-20

 

Right or wrong, if this was any other high profile franchise, the media would be doing the same thing. I don't think it is a Miami bias at all. What do you think would be happening if this was a NY franchise? Same or worse. Probably worse. But who cares if they seem like they are piling on. It's a good news story. Nut up and move on.

 

Lol

 

Very well said by Darlington. He nailed it. What he said seems to be like a very nice happy medium between what the 2 sides of this debate have been saying.

 

If you stopped listening to it after a minute, you have no right to comment. Darlington's thoughts on the issues were spot on. Of course, you won't agree because it doesn't match your opinions.

 

"Its hard to be fair when we only have one side of the story" -Darlington

 

Pretty sure your excerpt is missing a "BUT".

Edit: No, missing the beginning and end. "I try to be as fair as possible, BUT...and right now what have have is not a very clear picture."

Basically you're trying to paint a different picture of what's being said with that piece. What Darlington is saying is they have nothing to go on due to a overwhelming lack of transparency. So how can the media be fair when what's going on makes 0 sense, and nobody is doing anything to clarify?

 

I agree with you 1000 percent iidont understand how untalented we are and people defending IRELAND AND ROSS whe players are refusing to come here and coaches too Then that should raise the flag at least with the smart dolphin fans.